1人領年金就吃掉5人保費 勞保失速衝向破產 - 工程師

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作者: bigDwinsch (胸奴王) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [新聞] 1人領年金就吃掉5人保費 勞保失速衝向破產
時間: Sun Jul 5 17:26:57 2020
1.媒體來源:
※ 例如蘋果日報、自由時報(請參考版規下方的核准媒體名單)
UDN
2.記者署名:
聯合報 / 記者陳素玲
3.完整新聞標題:
1人領年金就吃掉5人保費 勞保失速衝向破產
4.完整新聞內文:
專家精算勞退基金,每增1人領年金,就吃掉5個人繳的保費,勞保不會提早倒才怪。圖為
示意圖。 圖/聯合報系資料照片
勞保被保險人人數仍持續增加,勞保費率也是每兩年增加0.5個百分點,照理說,基金財
務風暴應該可控,但是真的嗎?勞保2026年才會倒嗎?
勞保提早倒 絕不是假議題
勞保老年年金請領人數10年來暴增11倍,平均每月請領金額也從1.3萬元增加至1.7萬元,
成長3成1;專家精算,「每增1人領年金,就吃掉5個人繳的保費」。以目前每月新增1萬
請領人數,少子化的台灣,有可能每個月新加入5萬個勞工繳保費嗎?勞保會不會提早倒
,絕對不是個假議題。
勞保的財務問題嚴重,大家都知道就是因為繳的少、領的多,因此勞保年金改革首要就是
增加保費、降低給付率。不過,革命尚未成功,蔡英文總統上任後,念茲在茲的年金改革
,終究只改了軍公教退休制度,千萬勞工這一塊,如何砍?砍多少?2017年勉強提出勞保
年金改革方案,但因反彈聲浪大,送進立院後被凍結至今。
保費沒增、給付率沒降 問題只能惡化
保費沒有提高,給付率也未下降,問題不但沒有解決,而且更惡化。一位勞保專家計算,
如果3年前通過勞保年金改革方案,雖然只能延後兩年破產時間,但是至少保費採1年增加
1個百分點,保費收入增加了;平均投保薪資標準也逐年拉長,平均請領金額也不會上升
這麼快,但這兩個重要改革都沒過,結果就是「只要每增加1個領退休金,就吃掉5個人繳
的保費」。
「這不是危言耸聽,是正在發生的事」這位專家實際計算,目前勞保費率是10%(不含就
業保費1%),勞保老年年金所得替代率則是1年1.55%,如果年資30年,可以領到平均投保
薪資的46.5%(1.55%X30),如果是40年年資,可以領到62%(1%,55X40),採取中間值
50%計算,所以繳的人是10%,但領的人領了50%,就是每增加1個領,就吃掉5個人繳的保
費。
2017年提出勞保年金改革方案,但因反彈聲浪大,送進立院後被凍結至今。 圖/聯合報
系資料照片
高齡少子環境 勞保愈晚愈難救
高齡化加上少子化,讓勞保失速更快。勞保年金化是2009年上路,今年是第11年,這10年
的請領人數因為高齡化,2010年請領年金人數是11.8萬人,但到今年5月為止,每月請領
老年年金人數已經飆到132.2萬餘人,10年來人數增加11倍,幾乎是失速狀態。
領的人多,請領的年金金額也因只採計平均投保薪資最高60個月(年金改革版本是逐年拉
長到180個月,才能降低道德風險),平均請領金額從年金上路時的1.2萬餘元,到今年5
月已經增加到1萬7544元,增加3成1。
「雙多」(領的人多、金額多)可看出失衡的狀況。截至5月止,勞保被保險人1,048萬餘
人,但是目前每個月新增1萬人領老年年金,1年新增12萬人,若是1人領年金,要5個繳保
費負擔,1年可能增加60萬人新增繳費的人嗎?答案恐怕已經很清楚。而當財務缺口愈來愈
大,勞保愈晚救、愈難救。
5.完整新聞連結 (或短網址):
https://udn.com/news/story/120986/4674362
6.備註:
政府不想面對的問題 媒體都在吵高雄補選 三倍券
藍綠惡搞出來的龐式騙局 年輕人現在在繳都不在乎嗎?
這個重要性應該不下香港國安法/中美貿易戰吧
日本現在一堆下流老人 造成一堆社會問題 台灣未來不管怎麼改問題都超級大
收入底層老人沒錢用 年輕人錢丟到水裡 只會叫你多繳少領延後退
現在40歲以下的誰相信領的到?
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作者: bigDwinsch (胸奴王) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [新聞] 1人領年金就吃掉5人保費 勞保失速衝向破產
時間: Sun Jul 5 17:26:57 2020
1.媒體來源:
※ 例如蘋果日報、自由時報(請參考版規下方的核准媒體名單)
UDN
2.記者署名:
聯合報 / 記者陳素玲
3.完整新聞標題:
1人領年金就吃掉5人保費 勞保失速衝向破產
4.完整新聞內文:
專家精算勞退基金,每增1人領年金,就吃掉5個人繳的保費,勞保不會提早倒才怪。圖為
示意圖。 圖/聯合報系資料照片
勞保被保險人人數仍持續增加,勞保費率也是每兩年增加0.5個百分點,照理說,基金財
務風暴應該可控,但是真的嗎?勞保2026年才會倒嗎?
勞保提早倒 絕不是假議題
勞保老年年金請領人數10年來暴增11倍,平均每月請領金額也從1.3萬元增加至1.7萬元,
成長3成1;專家精算,「每增1人領年金,就吃掉5個人繳的保費」。以目前每月新增1萬
請領人數,少子化的台灣,有可能每個月新加入5萬個勞工繳保費嗎?勞保會不會提早倒
,絕對不是個假議題。
勞保的財務問題嚴重,大家都知道就是因為繳的少、領的多,因此勞保年金改革首要就是
增加保費、降低給付率。不過,革命尚未成功,蔡英文總統上任後,念茲在茲的年金改革
,終究只改了軍公教退休制度,千萬勞工這一塊,如何砍?砍多少?2017年勉強提出勞保
年金改革方案,但因反彈聲浪大,送進立院後被凍結至今。
保費沒增、給付率沒降 問題只能惡化
保費沒有提高,給付率也未下降,問題不但沒有解決,而且更惡化。一位勞保專家計算,
如果3年前通過勞保年金改革方案,雖然只能延後兩年破產時間,但是至少保費採1年增加
1個百分點,保費收入增加了;平均投保薪資標準也逐年拉長,平均請領金額也不會上升
這麼快,但這兩個重要改革都沒過,結果就是「只要每增加1個領退休金,就吃掉5個人繳
的保費」。
「這不是危言耸聽,是正在發生的事」這位專家實際計算,目前勞保費率是10%(不含就
業保費1%),勞保老年年金所得替代率則是1年1.55%,如果年資30年,可以領到平均投保
薪資的46.5%(1.55%X30),如果是40年年資,可以領到62%(1%,55X40),採取中間值
50%計算,所以繳的人是10%,但領的人領了50%,就是每增加1個領,就吃掉5個人繳的保
費。
2017年提出勞保年金改革方案,但因反彈聲浪大,送進立院後被凍結至今。 圖/聯合報
系資料照片
高齡少子環境 勞保愈晚愈難救
高齡化加上少子化,讓勞保失速更快。勞保年金化是2009年上路,今年是第11年,這10年
的請領人數因為高齡化,2010年請領年金人數是11.8萬人,但到今年5月為止,每月請領
老年年金人數已經飆到132.2萬餘人,10年來人數增加11倍,幾乎是失速狀態。
領的人多,請領的年金金額也因只採計平均投保薪資最高60個月(年金改革版本是逐年拉
長到180個月,才能降低道德風險),平均請領金額從年金上路時的1.2萬餘元,到今年5
月已經增加到1萬7544元,增加3成1。
「雙多」(領的人多、金額多)可看出失衡的狀況。截至5月止,勞保被保險人1,048萬餘
人,但是目前每個月新增1萬人領老年年金,1年新增12萬人,若是1人領年金,要5個繳保
費負擔,1年可能增加60萬人新增繳費的人嗎?答案恐怕已經很清楚。而當財務缺口愈來愈
大,勞保愈晚救、愈難救。
5.完整新聞連結 (或短網址):
https://udn.com/news/story/120986/4674362
6.備註:
政府不想面對的問題 媒體都在吵高雄補選 三倍券
藍綠惡搞出來的龐式騙局 年輕人現在在繳都不在乎嗎?
這個重要性應該不下香港國安法/中美貿易戰吧
日本現在一堆下流老人 造成一堆社會問題 台灣未來不管怎麼改問題都超級大
收入底層老人沒錢用 年輕人錢丟到水裡 只會叫你多繳少領延後退
現在40歲以下的誰相信領的到?
--
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at 2021-04-14T03:09

By Hamiltion
at 2021-04-14T16:20
at 2021-04-14T16:20

By Steve
at 2021-04-15T08:21
at 2021-04-15T08:21

By Hedwig
at 2021-04-19T04:59
at 2021-04-19T04:59

By Puput
at 2021-04-20T23:17
at 2021-04-20T23:17

By Olivia
at 2021-04-22T12:00
at 2021-04-22T12:00

By Charlie
at 2021-04-24T14:18
at 2021-04-24T14:18

By Regina
at 2021-04-27T11:24
at 2021-04-27T11:24

By Donna
at 2021-04-28T14:50
at 2021-04-28T14:50

By Elma
at 2021-05-01T15:14
at 2021-05-01T15:14

By Irma
at 2021-05-03T00:48
at 2021-05-03T00:48

By Belly
at 2021-05-05T16:41
at 2021-05-05T16:41

By Sandy
at 2021-05-06T10:44
at 2021-05-06T10:44

By Caroline
at 2021-05-11T09:08
at 2021-05-11T09:08

By Franklin
at 2021-05-14T19:21
at 2021-05-14T19:21

By Xanthe
at 2021-05-15T02:24
at 2021-05-15T02:24

By Thomas
at 2021-05-18T16:17
at 2021-05-18T16:17

By Robert
at 2021-05-22T19:08
at 2021-05-22T19:08

By Ophelia
at 2021-05-26T00:05
at 2021-05-26T00:05

By Erin
at 2021-05-26T07:49
at 2021-05-26T07:49
棄民會很多吧

By Connor
at 2021-05-26T22:26
at 2021-05-26T22:26

By Jacob
at 2021-05-30T06:21
at 2021-05-30T06:21

By Hardy
at 2021-05-31T17:33
at 2021-05-31T17:33

By Yuri
at 2021-06-04T12:08
at 2021-06-04T12:08

By Candice
at 2021-06-05T10:09
at 2021-06-05T10:09

By Donna
at 2021-06-06T08:02
at 2021-06-06T08:02

By Edward Lewis
at 2021-06-08T07:44
at 2021-06-08T07:44

By William
at 2021-06-11T15:41
at 2021-06-11T15:41
到時候再舉債就好

By Sarah
at 2021-06-12T11:01
at 2021-06-12T11:01

By Andrew
at 2021-06-15T02:46
at 2021-06-15T02:46

By Emma
at 2021-06-19T22:04
at 2021-06-19T22:04

By Ina
at 2021-06-22T13:32
at 2021-06-22T13:32

By Bethany
at 2021-06-23T17:15
at 2021-06-23T17:15

By James
at 2021-06-24T23:08
at 2021-06-24T23:08

By Hedwig
at 2021-06-26T19:32
at 2021-06-26T19:32
破產最少還有一年可以逃 三倍卷馬上要花 補選兩三個月就要
投票 本來就是比較新比較近的事件會被瘋狂討論

By Irma
at 2021-06-30T03:41
at 2021-06-30T03:41
領最多倍數的,鐵板一塊都改革不了,只能拿軍公教開刀

By Skylar Davis
at 2021-07-02T01:30
at 2021-07-02T01:30

By Dora
at 2021-07-05T07:15
at 2021-07-05T07:15
的人養啊XD

By David
at 2021-07-09T12:59
at 2021-07-09T12:59
就是因為少字化交得人變少 領得人變多 你他媽一直吵破產是

By Callum
at 2021-07-09T17:46
at 2021-07-09T17:46
都說是民意反對,那後果也要全民來承擔,沒有卯贏的啦

By Lauren
at 2021-07-10T15:16
at 2021-07-10T15:16
不是啊 本來人性就是犯賤短視 有長遠眼光得人很少

By Michael
at 2021-07-15T10:24
at 2021-07-15T10:24

By Yuri
at 2021-07-15T21:53
at 2021-07-15T21:53

By Kyle
at 2021-07-18T19:17
at 2021-07-18T19:17
的人沒有辦法領,老人家裡沒田的話你是要叫他去公園挖
土吃膩。

By Susan
at 2021-07-21T13:38
at 2021-07-21T13:38

By Charlotte
at 2021-07-22T10:55
at 2021-07-22T10:55

By Joseph
at 2021-07-26T14:21
at 2021-07-26T14:21

By Thomas
at 2021-07-30T12:00
at 2021-07-30T12:00
不會領到退休金 爽

By Gilbert
at 2021-07-31T19:23
at 2021-07-31T19:23

By Gilbert
at 2021-08-05T07:37
at 2021-08-05T07:37
理的解決辦法。
目前台灣還有一些吸引力,快點找人進來做分母。

By Lauren
at 2021-08-07T03:34
at 2021-08-07T03:34

By Joe
at 2021-08-12T02:11
at 2021-08-12T02:11

By Linda
at 2021-08-15T06:16
at 2021-08-15T06:16

By Una
at 2021-08-18T12:05
at 2021-08-18T12:05

By Delia
at 2021-08-22T02:48
at 2021-08-22T02:48

By Dorothy
at 2021-08-24T10:09
at 2021-08-24T10:09

By Rae
at 2021-08-26T16:50
at 2021-08-26T16:50

By Delia
at 2021-08-28T13:29
at 2021-08-28T13:29

By Poppy
at 2021-08-29T17:52
at 2021-08-29T17:52
現在會破產大多是少子化原因

By Andy
at 2021-08-30T14:48
at 2021-08-30T14:48

By Bethany
at 2021-09-03T08:46
at 2021-09-03T08:46

By Madame
at 2021-09-03T13:04
at 2021-09-03T13:04
教一堆起跳5~6萬的這叫多??

By Kelly
at 2021-09-07T11:46
at 2021-09-07T11:46
子都不要靠關係,錢會不夠嗎,給你五倍保費也沒用啦

By Jacky
at 2021-09-08T20:02
at 2021-09-08T20:02

By Susan
at 2021-09-12T03:41
at 2021-09-12T03:41

By Audriana
at 2021-09-14T17:03
at 2021-09-14T17:03
敢質疑政策,一律打成中共同路人,或是貪婪勞工

By Mason
at 2021-09-14T22:55
at 2021-09-14T22:55
是故意要噴勞工

By Mason
at 2021-09-16T17:53
at 2021-09-16T17:53

By Linda
at 2021-09-19T07:42
at 2021-09-19T07:42

By Sandy
at 2021-09-20T20:12
at 2021-09-20T20:12

By Vanessa
at 2021-09-24T05:34
at 2021-09-24T05:34

By Anonymous
at 2021-09-28T12:18
at 2021-09-28T12:18

By Linda
at 2021-09-29T22:55
at 2021-09-29T22:55

By Yedda
at 2021-09-30T07:14
at 2021-09-30T07:14

By Jacky
at 2021-10-04T07:07
at 2021-10-04T07:07

By Kyle
at 2021-10-09T06:30
at 2021-10-09T06:30

By Lydia
at 2021-10-13T10:41
at 2021-10-13T10:41
結果現在一堆人還在關心抗中保台,還是92共識,真的

By James
at 2021-10-16T11:15
at 2021-10-16T11:15

By Edith
at 2021-10-19T13:08
at 2021-10-19T13:08

By Sandy
at 2021-10-20T10:35
at 2021-10-20T10:35
挑一個好的,你以為我不想挑嗎

By Belly
at 2021-10-24T10:33
at 2021-10-24T10:33
不要再蓋地下鐵了

By Kristin
at 2021-10-29T04:25
at 2021-10-29T04:25

By Iris
at 2021-10-31T16:00
at 2021-10-31T16:00

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2021-11-02T01:00
at 2021-11-02T01:00

By Elizabeth
at 2021-11-05T20:35
at 2021-11-05T20:35

By Lydia
at 2021-11-10T05:51
at 2021-11-10T05:51

By Lydia
at 2021-11-12T02:06
at 2021-11-12T02:06

By Daniel
at 2021-11-14T17:24
at 2021-11-14T17:24

By Jack
at 2021-11-18T18:59
at 2021-11-18T18:59

By Genevieve
at 2021-11-20T04:11
at 2021-11-20T04:11

By Caroline
at 2021-11-24T17:08
at 2021-11-24T17:08

By Cara
at 2021-11-26T03:09
at 2021-11-26T03:09

By Yedda
at 2021-11-28T02:25
at 2021-11-28T02:25

By Sierra Rose
at 2021-12-01T03:31
at 2021-12-01T03:31

By Caroline
at 2021-12-03T00:56
at 2021-12-03T00:56

By Gilbert
at 2021-12-06T21:11
at 2021-12-06T21:11

By Anonymous
at 2021-12-09T01:58
at 2021-12-09T01:58

By Emma
at 2021-12-10T20:33
at 2021-12-10T20:33

By Liam
at 2021-12-12T13:16
at 2021-12-12T13:16

By Ina
at 2021-12-16T05:07
at 2021-12-16T05:07

By Andy
at 2021-12-20T13:39
at 2021-12-20T13:39

By Rosalind
at 2021-12-24T08:36
at 2021-12-24T08:36

By Frederic
at 2021-12-25T09:20
at 2021-12-25T09:20

By Rachel
at 2021-12-29T16:28
at 2021-12-29T16:28

By Iris
at 2021-12-30T11:31
at 2021-12-30T11:31

By David
at 2022-01-04T11:05
at 2022-01-04T11:05

By Oliver
at 2022-01-04T12:42
at 2022-01-04T12:42

By Joe
at 2022-01-06T15:42
at 2022-01-06T15:42
對,全力推勞保改革,反正20年後這批贊成的還是會面臨
下一波改革,都一樣啦

By Donna
at 2022-01-07T10:56
at 2022-01-07T10:56
和這篇文一樣

By Sarah
at 2022-01-11T23:35
at 2022-01-11T23:35

By Gilbert
at 2022-01-16T12:46
at 2022-01-16T12:46
單

By Frederic
at 2022-01-20T15:31
at 2022-01-20T15:31

By Aaliyah
at 2022-01-23T04:13
at 2022-01-23T04:13

By Caitlin
at 2022-01-24T17:53
at 2022-01-24T17:53
半點鳥用

By Agnes
at 2022-01-26T23:12
at 2022-01-26T23:12
諾呢

By Puput
at 2022-01-28T00:04
at 2022-01-28T00:04

By Hedy
at 2022-01-29T15:42
at 2022-01-29T15:42
死光了好嗎 勞保是每個勞工未來都會領的 而且還沒改革
破產是一定會發生的 到時就是在座護航綠粉想領年金還領
不到呢

By Agnes
at 2022-02-02T10:40
at 2022-02-02T10:40
粉勞保繳一繳 退休不要領年金不就能改善了

By Kristin
at 2022-02-05T20:47
at 2022-02-05T20:47

By Elizabeth
at 2022-02-07T23:12
at 2022-02-07T23:12

By Suhail Hany
at 2022-02-10T00:33
at 2022-02-10T00:33

By Frederica
at 2022-02-10T05:35
at 2022-02-10T05:35

By Jack
at 2022-02-14T16:20
at 2022-02-14T16:20

By Todd Johnson
at 2022-02-17T17:19
at 2022-02-17T17:19
不要以為噓了就可以不補孝親費

By Emily
at 2022-02-21T02:17
at 2022-02-21T02:17

By Hedwig
at 2022-02-24T08:02
at 2022-02-24T08:02

By Thomas
at 2022-02-26T10:30
at 2022-02-26T10:30

By Vanessa
at 2022-02-26T16:56
at 2022-02-26T16:56

By Selena
at 2022-02-28T18:35
at 2022-02-28T18:35

By Vanessa
at 2022-03-03T11:11
at 2022-03-03T11:11
專業經理人操盤去投資賺錢,才有錢支付保險給付金。公家
有沒有好的專業經理人,要操盤還會怕被人講抄地皮抄股票
,現在沒錢了活該啊,自己吞阿

By John
at 2022-03-07T06:41
at 2022-03-07T06:41

By Oscar
at 2022-03-07T16:05
at 2022-03-07T16:05

By Vanessa
at 2022-03-08T19:41
at 2022-03-08T19:41

By Carolina Franco
at 2022-03-13T03:25
at 2022-03-13T03:25

By Emily
at 2022-03-17T11:54
at 2022-03-17T11:54

By Joseph
at 2022-03-22T09:22
at 2022-03-22T09:22
未來40年也別想逆轉這個局面也

By Edith
at 2022-03-22T19:33
at 2022-03-22T19:33

By Brianna
at 2022-03-25T16:10
at 2022-03-25T16:10

By Isla
at 2022-03-26T05:25
at 2022-03-26T05:25

By Candice
at 2022-03-28T03:53
at 2022-03-28T03:53

By Oliver
at 2022-03-31T18:28
at 2022-03-31T18:28

By Selena
at 2022-04-01T17:11
at 2022-04-01T17:11

By Candice
at 2022-04-03T06:38
at 2022-04-03T06:38

By Hazel
at 2022-04-08T04:54
at 2022-04-08T04:54

By Harry
at 2022-04-09T08:35
at 2022-04-09T08:35

By Olive
at 2022-04-11T18:43
at 2022-04-11T18:43
只有房地產不會倒

By Margaret
at 2022-04-11T21:22
at 2022-04-11T21:22

By Ophelia
at 2022-04-15T08:13
at 2022-04-15T08:13

By Delia
at 2022-04-19T03:00
at 2022-04-19T03:00
治鬥爭的議題而已

By Hazel
at 2022-04-23T01:02
at 2022-04-23T01:02

By Puput
at 2022-04-26T18:52
at 2022-04-26T18:52

By Cara
at 2022-04-28T06:57
at 2022-04-28T06:57

By Ethan
at 2022-05-01T00:08
at 2022-05-01T00:08

By Damian
at 2022-05-04T17:54
at 2022-05-04T17:54

By Anonymous
at 2022-05-07T22:03
at 2022-05-07T22:03

By Ina
at 2022-05-09T13:28
at 2022-05-09T13:28

By Hedda
at 2022-05-12T19:35
at 2022-05-12T19:35

By Quintina
at 2022-05-15T05:53
at 2022-05-15T05:53

By Ina
at 2022-05-19T18:20
at 2022-05-19T18:20

By William
at 2022-05-21T08:02
at 2022-05-21T08:02

By Annie
at 2022-05-25T08:39
at 2022-05-25T08:39

By Linda
at 2022-05-27T10:54
at 2022-05-27T10:54
https://i.imgur.com/dlDpB9k.jpg

By Ophelia
at 2022-05-28T18:25
at 2022-05-28T18:25

By Edith
at 2022-05-31T23:34
at 2022-05-31T23:34
放著等爆炸而已

By Anthony
at 2022-06-02T05:34
at 2022-06-02T05:34

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2022-06-06T10:34
at 2022-06-06T10:34

By Annie
at 2022-06-10T22:26
at 2022-06-10T22:26

By Hardy
at 2022-06-14T05:31
at 2022-06-14T05:31

By Queena
at 2022-06-18T08:16
at 2022-06-18T08:16
來的

By Mia
at 2022-06-21T20:15
at 2022-06-21T20:15

By Rae
at 2022-06-25T18:23
at 2022-06-25T18:23

By Puput
at 2022-06-27T15:36
at 2022-06-27T15:36

By David
at 2022-06-29T16:21
at 2022-06-29T16:21

By Rebecca
at 2022-07-04T01:41
at 2022-07-04T01:41

By Odelette
at 2022-07-04T14:52
at 2022-07-04T14:52

By Ula
at 2022-07-07T00:58
at 2022-07-07T00:58

By Hardy
at 2022-07-09T05:57
at 2022-07-09T05:57

By Sarah
at 2022-07-10T10:46
at 2022-07-10T10:46

By Delia
at 2022-07-13T00:14
at 2022-07-13T00:14

By Audriana
at 2022-07-16T01:04
at 2022-07-16T01:04

By Anonymous
at 2022-07-17T03:29
at 2022-07-17T03:29

By Franklin
at 2022-07-21T03:05
at 2022-07-21T03:05
演了

By Vanessa
at 2022-07-25T20:36
at 2022-07-25T20:36

By Christine
at 2022-07-26T21:17
at 2022-07-26T21:17

By James
at 2022-07-27T23:15
at 2022-07-27T23:15
垃圾不分藍綠

By Madame
at 2022-07-29T11:17
at 2022-07-29T11:17

By Elizabeth
at 2022-08-01T12:27
at 2022-08-01T12:27

By Olga
at 2022-08-03T11:48
at 2022-08-03T11:48

By Jessica
at 2022-08-04T18:59
at 2022-08-04T18:59

By Rachel
at 2022-08-09T01:03
at 2022-08-09T01:03
這輩要領 誰來繳給他

By Leila
at 2022-08-10T14:09
at 2022-08-10T14:09
麼短視近利嗎

By Una
at 2022-08-11T02:03
at 2022-08-11T02:03

By Rae
at 2022-08-14T19:58
at 2022-08-14T19:58

By Aaliyah
at 2022-08-16T04:23
at 2022-08-16T04:23
個真的要改怎麼會從最晚破產的開始 就被回文+站內炸翻 現在
時間到了 該面對現實啦 幸好我還有點小投資 科科

By Anthony
at 2022-08-19T06:59
at 2022-08-19T06:59

By Steve
at 2022-08-22T12:14
at 2022-08-22T12:14

By Robert
at 2022-08-22T16:53
at 2022-08-22T16:53
的很會....選民自己選的將來自己擔

By Kristin
at 2022-08-22T18:20
at 2022-08-22T18:20

By Delia
at 2022-08-26T00:05
at 2022-08-26T00:05

By Aaliyah
at 2022-08-27T13:17
at 2022-08-27T13:17

By Zenobia
at 2022-08-28T10:35
at 2022-08-28T10:35

By Valerie
at 2022-08-29T01:47
at 2022-08-29T01:47

By James
at 2022-09-01T00:47
at 2022-09-01T00:47

By Caroline
at 2022-09-05T00:18
at 2022-09-05T00:18

By Lucy
at 2022-09-08T21:12
at 2022-09-08T21:12

By Daniel
at 2022-09-12T15:01
at 2022-09-12T15:01

By Kristin
at 2022-09-14T15:41
at 2022-09-14T15:41

By Liam
at 2022-09-16T16:10
at 2022-09-16T16:10

By Eartha
at 2022-09-18T18:58
at 2022-09-18T18:58
延長拖台錢

By Rachel
at 2022-09-22T03:31
at 2022-09-22T03:31

By Daniel
at 2022-09-24T03:50
at 2022-09-24T03:50
夫妻要生10個小孩?

By Linda
at 2022-09-25T13:45
at 2022-09-25T13:45

By Daniel
at 2022-09-27T18:56
at 2022-09-27T18:56

By Daniel
at 2022-10-01T14:02
at 2022-10-01T14:02
也只是從五個變四個而已

By Charlie
at 2022-10-06T04:25
at 2022-10-06T04:25
府規劃不全造成的破產應該政府吸收

By Poppy
at 2022-10-10T09:25
at 2022-10-10T09:25
。

By Rachel
at 2022-10-12T12:12
at 2022-10-12T12:12

By Mary
at 2022-10-14T16:51
at 2022-10-14T16:51

By Faithe
at 2022-10-18T02:13
at 2022-10-18T02:13

By Daph Bay
at 2022-10-19T10:21
at 2022-10-19T10:21
那22K的,他決不繳33K等級的保費.

By Brianna
at 2022-10-24T05:17
at 2022-10-24T05:17

By Necoo
at 2022-10-29T02:59
at 2022-10-29T02:59

By Necoo
at 2022-11-02T03:11
at 2022-11-02T03:11
未來一定是少領+多繳

By Ula
at 2022-11-02T14:50
at 2022-11-02T14:50

By Carol
at 2022-11-02T19:29
at 2022-11-02T19:29

By Anthony
at 2022-11-05T23:14
at 2022-11-05T23:14

By Noah
at 2022-11-07T07:15
at 2022-11-07T07:15
像失業給付本來沒有

By Candice
at 2022-11-10T18:09
at 2022-11-10T18:09

By Sarah
at 2022-11-11T11:03
at 2022-11-11T11:03
還能不繳嗎…還是要多繳當做善事?

By Joseph
at 2022-11-15T10:23
at 2022-11-15T10:23
軍公教的時候這群雜種還嗆我,到時他媽的倒死你們這群蠢
畜勞工!爽!

By Jessica
at 2022-11-17T10:50
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at 2022-11-18T22:01
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at 2022-11-23T21:52
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at 2022-11-28T09:46
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群嘴巴反共身體很誠實在爽賺RMB,傻B還以為同仇敵愾呢

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at 2022-12-02T22:41
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at 2022-12-07T13:17
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at 2022-12-10T14:12
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at 2022-12-14T09:38
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at 2022-12-16T18:05
at 2022-12-16T18:05
要,我們先讓陳菊當上監察院長就可以解決這個問題了

By Noah
at 2022-12-18T14:04
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at 2022-12-19T18:53
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at 2022-12-24T04:17
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at 2022-12-27T13:18
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By Eartha
at 2023-01-01T00:48
at 2023-01-01T00:48
繳喔)才會痛醒

By Leila
at 2023-01-06T00:19
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By Agnes
at 2023-01-06T17:27
at 2023-01-06T17:27
還是等到破產?

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at 2023-01-10T22:57
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at 2023-01-15T00:03
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at 2023-01-16T22:08
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at 2023-01-17T03:15
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at 2023-01-17T17:23
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at 2023-01-22T16:38
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at 2023-01-23T23:56
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at 2023-01-28T22:21
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at 2023-01-29T14:46
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at 2023-02-01T02:34
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at 2023-02-05T13:04
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at 2023-02-10T13:04
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at 2023-02-14T11:59
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at 2023-02-18T12:38
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at 2023-02-22T12:03
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at 2023-02-25T20:42
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at 2023-02-26T15:36
,時間,強迫在台灣多消費。
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