AMD 與 GLOBALFOUNDRIES 共同推進7nm製程 - 工程師
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作者: obov (信阿克雅教得性交) 看板: PC_Shopping
標題: Re: [情報] AMD 與 GLOBALFOUNDRIES 共同推進7nm製程
時間: Fri Sep 2 00:54:52 2016
※ 引述《KotoriCute (Lovelive!)》之銘言:
: AMD與好基友GF共同推進7nm製程,但AMD可能還有別的代工夥伴
: http://www.expreview.com/49244.html
: 2009年AMD把自家的晶圓製造業務剝離出來賣給中東石油土豪基金,成立了
: GlobalFoundries公司(簡稱GF),儘管AMD已經減持了GF公司股份,而且這麼多年來GF的製
: 程磕磕絆絆,但它們一直都是AMD重要的代工夥伴,還好14nm節點上總算穩定下來了,為
: AMD代工Polaris及Zen處理器。 日前AMD與GF又簽訂了價值3.35億美元的合作協定,AMD在
: 2020年底之前會繼續購買GF的晶圓,雙方還會合作推進7nm製程研發。
: AMD與GF之間簽訂是WSA(Wafer Supply Agreement)晶圓供貨協定,週期長達五年,上一次
: 簽訂合約是2011年了,當時因為GF的32nm製程不成熟,AMD購買晶圓不再用固定價格而改
: 用切割出來的可用核心數來付款。 這次簽訂的協定從2016年1月1日開始計算,截至2020
: 年12月31日,其中今年的晶圓價格是固定的,未來四年的價格確定了框架。
: 根據這份協定,雙方除了長達5年的晶圓供貨合作之外,還會共同推進7nm製程研發——
: GlobalFoundries已經確認取消10nm製程了,AMD也沒提過10nm晶片計畫,雙方將從14nm直
: 接殺向未來的7nm製程。
: 不過也不能完全排除AMD還有別的計畫,因為在協定中AMD還保留了使用其他晶圓廠製造某
: 些產品的可能性。 雖然說這只是協定上的可能性,但增加這個條款意味著AMD有可能選擇
: 其他代工廠——就14nm製程來說,GlobalFoundries現在的產能還不能完全滿足AMD的需要
: 。
: 雙方簽訂的協定總價值高達3.35億美元,其中有1億美元的現金分期付款,從2016年Q4季
: 度起一直到2017年Q3季度。
: 另外的2.35億美元是給West Coast Hitech L.P公司的股票授權,後者是穆巴達拉開發公
: 司全資子公司,而穆巴達拉又是GlobalFoundries大股東ATIC的母公司,AMD給予該公司總
: 計7500萬股、每股5.98美元的股票授權,後者可做2020年2月29日行權。
我認為的重點
1.以前跟GF買的晶圓沒到預期 要賠全額
現在可以打折 不過打多少折沒講
2.跟GF買的不可以比跟別人買的少 不然要賠(打折)
3.接下來要買多少沒講
4.給100M現金加75M認股權 但是那葛認股權有點複雜
認股後GF總股數不能超過19.9% 現在好像是17.8%
沒變的話其實只能認75M股的兩成左右
這背後的原因其實不是直接說GF有多爛
而是amd主要客戶不信任GF
簡單來講就是sony MS
1.sony跟MS都被IBM表過
2.sony跟***關係不好 14nmLPP=***
3.MS之前GF20nm被表 amd賠錢 xb1精簡版本來可以提早一年上
當然精簡度沒現在的好就是惹
基本上可見的未來這兩葛大概都是首選GG
GF會在這部份投降 拿點錢當安慰的導火線也是20nm作一半取消
嚴格來說不是GF14nmLPP有多廢
起碼polaris還能一戰
amd只是不想在semi-custom那塊為惹GF讓客戶不爽
後面未來製程怎樣大概都是講給semi-custom客戶(&未來客戶)聽的
amd自己其實沒差
--
作者: obov (信阿克雅教得性交) 看板: PC_Shopping
標題: Re: [情報] AMD 與 GLOBALFOUNDRIES 共同推進7nm製程
時間: Fri Sep 2 00:54:52 2016
※ 引述《KotoriCute (Lovelive!)》之銘言:
: AMD與好基友GF共同推進7nm製程,但AMD可能還有別的代工夥伴
: http://www.expreview.com/49244.html
: 2009年AMD把自家的晶圓製造業務剝離出來賣給中東石油土豪基金,成立了
: GlobalFoundries公司(簡稱GF),儘管AMD已經減持了GF公司股份,而且這麼多年來GF的製
: 程磕磕絆絆,但它們一直都是AMD重要的代工夥伴,還好14nm節點上總算穩定下來了,為
: AMD代工Polaris及Zen處理器。 日前AMD與GF又簽訂了價值3.35億美元的合作協定,AMD在
: 2020年底之前會繼續購買GF的晶圓,雙方還會合作推進7nm製程研發。
: AMD與GF之間簽訂是WSA(Wafer Supply Agreement)晶圓供貨協定,週期長達五年,上一次
: 簽訂合約是2011年了,當時因為GF的32nm製程不成熟,AMD購買晶圓不再用固定價格而改
: 用切割出來的可用核心數來付款。 這次簽訂的協定從2016年1月1日開始計算,截至2020
: 年12月31日,其中今年的晶圓價格是固定的,未來四年的價格確定了框架。
: 根據這份協定,雙方除了長達5年的晶圓供貨合作之外,還會共同推進7nm製程研發——
: GlobalFoundries已經確認取消10nm製程了,AMD也沒提過10nm晶片計畫,雙方將從14nm直
: 接殺向未來的7nm製程。
: 不過也不能完全排除AMD還有別的計畫,因為在協定中AMD還保留了使用其他晶圓廠製造某
: 些產品的可能性。 雖然說這只是協定上的可能性,但增加這個條款意味著AMD有可能選擇
: 其他代工廠——就14nm製程來說,GlobalFoundries現在的產能還不能完全滿足AMD的需要
: 。
: 雙方簽訂的協定總價值高達3.35億美元,其中有1億美元的現金分期付款,從2016年Q4季
: 度起一直到2017年Q3季度。
: 另外的2.35億美元是給West Coast Hitech L.P公司的股票授權,後者是穆巴達拉開發公
: 司全資子公司,而穆巴達拉又是GlobalFoundries大股東ATIC的母公司,AMD給予該公司總
: 計7500萬股、每股5.98美元的股票授權,後者可做2020年2月29日行權。
我認為的重點
1.以前跟GF買的晶圓沒到預期 要賠全額
現在可以打折 不過打多少折沒講
2.跟GF買的不可以比跟別人買的少 不然要賠(打折)
3.接下來要買多少沒講
4.給100M現金加75M認股權 但是那葛認股權有點複雜
認股後GF總股數不能超過19.9% 現在好像是17.8%
沒變的話其實只能認75M股的兩成左右
這背後的原因其實不是直接說GF有多爛
而是amd主要客戶不信任GF
簡單來講就是sony MS
1.sony跟MS都被IBM表過
2.sony跟***關係不好 14nmLPP=***
3.MS之前GF20nm被表 amd賠錢 xb1精簡版本來可以提早一年上
當然精簡度沒現在的好就是惹
基本上可見的未來這兩葛大概都是首選GG
GF會在這部份投降 拿點錢當安慰的導火線也是20nm作一半取消
嚴格來說不是GF14nmLPP有多廢
起碼polaris還能一戰
amd只是不想在semi-custom那塊為惹GF讓客戶不爽
後面未來製程怎樣大概都是講給semi-custom客戶(&未來客戶)聽的
amd自己其實沒差
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