APR 工程師 - 工程師
By Emily
at 2013-11-07T22:04
at 2013-11-07T22:04
Table of Contents
※ 引述《kdy0963 (kdy)》之銘言:
: 最近接到立錡的APR工程師面試邀請
: 請問APR工程師就是等於LAYOUT工程師吧?
: 想請問一下工作內容以及待遇與未來發展
: 希望給小弟一點意見 先謝了
我想應該是有人誤會cutetoto大推文的意思了...
身為一個鍵盤APR是該跳出來回個文.
cutetoto大所謂熟悉後可以做各種design的意思是...
在digital ic 下, 基本上產品別(網通/driver/power)對flow的差異並不大,
當然bottleneck不盡相同, 不過對APR整體上的概念來說是不變的.
這點就跟fully layout比較不同.
反而technology node對APR的影響會比較大.
第二個... APR 很少跳到 frontend... 這倒是真的,
因為專精的東西並不相同, digital RD會專注在電路架構,
以及如何使用HDL語言來實現.
APR則會以比較physical的角度來看.
stdcell usage, constraint, lib, floorplan, clock tree.
基本上APR不知道RD想要的是什麼, 但是APR要有能力去告訴RD如何才能做到他們要的
以constraint的觀點: case analysis, false path, boundary constraint, clock tree
第三個... APR的發展
APR其實跟CAD並不相同... 但是很多公司是將這兩個職位放在同一個部門的
也許是APR要有能力使用script/perl/tcl等方式去增加他們自己工作效率有關
因為APR會跟Tool比較熟一點.
發展的話, 如果不想只做APR,
基本上可以往front-end CAD, back-end CAD, DFT engineer, 或者Command file方向走.
我自己的見解是...
technology node在推進的同時, DRC rule是成倍數在成長的,
所以以後Command file寫得好應該不會餓死
再來erc的check也不會只要求人眼確認了,
若能利用一些通則透過程式去協助判斷, 那寫perc的人... 這邊我語帶保留 XD
至於front-end, back-end CAD原本就是design house建立in house tool重要的人才
我也不認為這些發展會不好
只是歸回現實面, 在台灣的確是RD >> support team,
而CAD又是相對小的pool... so...
有機會當RD還是去當RD吧! 不過當APR應該是不會讓你餓到就是...
--
有時候覺得筆記本就像我們的人生,
縱使荒唐、輕狂、悲傷、喜悅、痛苦在上頭無秩序的散佈,但那又如何?
一本被寫滿的筆記本至少曾經裝載過感情,
比徒留空白就隨手置於那疊筆記本墳的來的幸運。
--
: 最近接到立錡的APR工程師面試邀請
: 請問APR工程師就是等於LAYOUT工程師吧?
: 想請問一下工作內容以及待遇與未來發展
: 希望給小弟一點意見 先謝了
我想應該是有人誤會cutetoto大推文的意思了...
身為一個鍵盤APR是該跳出來回個文.
cutetoto大所謂熟悉後可以做各種design的意思是...
在digital ic 下, 基本上產品別(網通/driver/power)對flow的差異並不大,
當然bottleneck不盡相同, 不過對APR整體上的概念來說是不變的.
這點就跟fully layout比較不同.
反而technology node對APR的影響會比較大.
第二個... APR 很少跳到 frontend... 這倒是真的,
因為專精的東西並不相同, digital RD會專注在電路架構,
以及如何使用HDL語言來實現.
APR則會以比較physical的角度來看.
stdcell usage, constraint, lib, floorplan, clock tree.
基本上APR不知道RD想要的是什麼, 但是APR要有能力去告訴RD如何才能做到他們要的
以constraint的觀點: case analysis, false path, boundary constraint, clock tree
第三個... APR的發展
APR其實跟CAD並不相同... 但是很多公司是將這兩個職位放在同一個部門的
也許是APR要有能力使用script/perl/tcl等方式去增加他們自己工作效率有關
因為APR會跟Tool比較熟一點.
發展的話, 如果不想只做APR,
基本上可以往front-end CAD, back-end CAD, DFT engineer, 或者Command file方向走.
我自己的見解是...
technology node在推進的同時, DRC rule是成倍數在成長的,
所以以後Command file寫得好應該不會餓死
再來erc的check也不會只要求人眼確認了,
若能利用一些通則透過程式去協助判斷, 那寫perc的人... 這邊我語帶保留 XD
至於front-end, back-end CAD原本就是design house建立in house tool重要的人才
我也不認為這些發展會不好
只是歸回現實面, 在台灣的確是RD >> support team,
而CAD又是相對小的pool... so...
有機會當RD還是去當RD吧! 不過當APR應該是不會讓你餓到就是...
--
有時候覺得筆記本就像我們的人生,
縱使荒唐、輕狂、悲傷、喜悅、痛苦在上頭無秩序的散佈,但那又如何?
一本被寫滿的筆記本至少曾經裝載過感情,
比徒留空白就隨手置於那疊筆記本墳的來的幸運。
--
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