Re: [問卦] 賈伯斯與比爾蓋滋誰對世界影響大? - 海外工作

Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2011-10-06T15:55

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※ [本文轉錄自 Gossiping 看板 #1EZJu_bo ]

作者: upa (↖☆煞氣a阿祥㊣↘) 看板: Gossiping
標題: Re: [問卦] 賈伯斯與比爾蓋滋誰對世界影響大?
時間: Thu Oct 6 13:35:56 2011

Jobs 和 Gates 誰對世界影響大我不知道,
但是這兩個人以前關係就很密切, 朋友很久了.

1997 年暑假那時候有一件大事,
還正巧的我那天正好去 Gates 家玩,
所以有一點掛可以說…

就是微軟投資蘋果美金一點五億($150M)的事情.
也承諾繼續在 Mac 上開發 Office 的套裝軟體.
這件事當時吵得快翻天了,
尤其是對 Mac 的死忠用戶來講,
這根本就是引狼入室的做法.
所以當 Jobs 宣布這件事情的時候,
整個會場幾乎是噓聲滿天.

可是死忠的用戶不了解的是 Apple 那時候幾乎都快撐不下去了,
股價已經跌到了谷底, 雖然董事會已經死皮賴臉的請 Jobs 再回來幫忙,
可是資金不夠, Jobs 再有心也進入了巧婦難為無米之炊的地步.

<以下是 Gates 親口說的, 周圍大概二十幾個人吧, 我在他右手邊>
今天早上四點半, Steve Jobs 打電話給我.
我們聊了一些生活瑣事後, 他問我願不願意提供一些資金,
讓 Apple 度個這次的難關.
我想了想覺得這是個可以創造個雙贏的機會, 就答應了.
具體的細節和時間表我們還沒談好,
但是 Apple 是我們的一個重要的夥伴,
再加上 Jobs 也是我的一個老朋友了,
朋友有難, 我一定會幫忙的.
<End/>

當然我沒有跟 Gates 熟到他請我一個人去他家,
微軟有一個傳統是每年暑假 Gates 會邀請那一年的 intern 去他家烤肉,
我那一年大概一百多人吧…
而因為這件事情剛好發生在當天早上,
那天大家圍繞在 Gates 身邊的時候, 話題都是繞在這個新聞上.
他也不吝嗇的說了很多關於 Apple 和 Jobs 的事情.

對了, 如果在 1997 年你買了一萬美金的蘋果股票的話,
你現在已經有美金一百二十六萬左右.
如果你買微軟的股票的話,
你現在有….. 一萬五左右…
<苦笑 ing>

然後這是今天 Bill Gates 對 Jobs 發的文章:
I’m truly saddened to learn of Steve Jobs' death. Melinda and I extend our
sincere condolences to his family and friends, and to everyone Steve has
touched through his work. Steve and I first met nearly 30 years ago, and have
been colleagues, competitors and friends over the course of more than half
our lives. The world rarely sees someone who has had the profound impact
Steve has had, the effects of which will be felt for many generations to
come. For those of us lucky enough to get to work with him, it's been an
insanely great honor. I will miss Steve immensely.

--

All Comments

Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2011-10-08T11:08
有掛 有推
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2011-10-12T04:22
MICROSOFT INTERN 高手
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2011-10-14T23:36
Bill Gates到底賺了多少?
George avatar
By George
at 2011-10-19T00:37
真的假的 1997年我也在GATE家 怎麼沒看到你
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2011-10-21T06:41
所以你是.....號瓶?
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2011-10-23T08:42
所以原po是買了微軟的股票嗎...(苦笑)
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2011-10-26T08:36
四樓走錯GATE
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2011-10-29T14:15
那時候微軟股票已經很貴了,蘋果那時候差不多等於雞蛋股
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2011-11-01T00:04
都是用噴的
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2011-11-02T21:24
真巧 我們都是同梯的!!那次烤肉菜色還真豐富
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2011-11-05T19:17
推 jrshiun:四樓走錯GATE
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2011-11-09T09:15
這篇散發著霸王色
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2011-11-11T01:31
富貴險中求
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2011-11-13T23:09
壟斷的賺錢威力 東西難用又貴
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2011-11-17T09:56
棋逢對手
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2011-11-18T08:53
所以原PO賣了蘋果股票 去買微軟股票嗎?
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2011-11-21T17:49
哲青 下去領500~~~
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2011-11-21T21:33
原PO碰到好多熟人了
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2011-11-24T04:28
有卦
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2011-11-27T21:22
那年我不記得有台灣人, 怎麼現在跑了兩個出來? 可能沒遇到吧.
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2011-12-01T12:40
你在蓋天右手邊?英文又那麼好,難道是?!
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2011-12-04T11:31
這是轉比爾蓋茲的話吧= =
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2011-12-05T20:59
你不怕這些台詞會被關鍵時刻的給抄去嗎?
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2011-12-07T17:25
寶傑~
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2011-12-09T17:00
ㄎㄎ
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2011-12-13T12:49
四樓是去有養藏獒的GATE家嗎
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2011-12-15T05:06
我1997那年也在 對你有點印象
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2011-12-16T06:01
"insanely great honor" 這句好讚XD
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2011-12-19T04:55
吸瓶: 寶傑 我跟你講 微軟每年都會請員工去烤肉,那年我...
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2011-12-23T12:25
開始虎爛囉
William avatar
By William
at 2011-12-28T10:01
看你的ip 我決定相信你 雖然你的暱稱很難跟本文聯想在一起
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2011-12-31T03:44
所以upa大不是台灣人呀?
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2012-01-03T11:08
1997過了14年,那你差不多40幾歲了
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2012-01-03T19:12
http://disp.cc/b/58-2oVl (图说乔布斯一生 - English板 - D
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2012-01-08T14:01
查這個id發的文就知道活動區域了啊 可信度有提高
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2012-01-12T18:04
四樓真是 有掛有推
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2012-01-12T23:14
還不知道是不是真的,算有卦有推
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2012-01-17T01:12
一堆裝熟XD
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2012-01-17T18:02
有掛不推嗎?
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2012-01-19T18:36
嗯 查了這ID的文 的確我是相信了~ 有掛有推
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2012-01-22T06:05
清流
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2012-01-26T17:30
ip顯示在Sammamish 又在西雅圖版發過文 可信度大增
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2012-01-30T03:50
阿祥 缺女友嗎
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2012-02-02T04:27
我相信你
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2012-02-07T00:25
沒有四十啦. Intern 時 21 歲吧.
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2012-02-08T04:38
你是在加州理工學院讀書的嗎
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2012-02-11T22:11
董智森表示:「好強T_T」
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2012-02-12T04:38
人生勝利組
董至森有去過蓋茲家嗎?,沒有還敢在電台大小聲
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2012-02-17T01:33
不是耶, 德州大學.
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2012-02-18T21:55
只能給推了 太屌了~
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2012-02-20T05:56
天啊!我只能喝西雅圖咖啡,而你在西雅圖工作
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2012-02-24T11:35
銋篪縝n聽是去他家, 大部分都是待在他的後院.
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2012-02-26T12:38
強者推
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2012-03-01T13:02
八卦清流~!!!
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2012-03-03T02:33
唯一進去他家是去, 上廁所....
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2012-03-07T03:57
看暱稱就知道豪洨
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2012-03-11T07:09
有掛有推
John avatar
By John
at 2012-03-16T00:11
好強呀~~~
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2012-03-17T11:28
好煞氣的暱稱呀!!! XDDDDD
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2012-03-19T17:35
推 很強 謝謝你的分享
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2012-03-20T11:07
有神快拜!可是欸欸欸的小董說你是__圾耶 你怎麼看?
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2012-03-25T02:19
董智森罵你是垃圾ㄟ 要不要回嗆一下,董連蓋茲家都沒
進去過
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2012-03-25T08:37
有神快拜
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2012-03-27T11:31
可惜那時候沒有什麼照相手機.
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2012-03-30T07:31
看到這篇 腿軟下去了
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2012-03-31T03:02
!!!!
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2012-04-04T07:17
咦?原來那是你喔? 你好你好 我是當時在蓋茲左邊第三個
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2012-04-04T17:00
強者八卦文
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2012-04-07T08:27
靠...妳該不會姓洪吧....
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2012-04-08T06:34
好像真的是強者八卦文 給推
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2012-04-11T08:50
暱稱XD
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2012-04-14T07:55
奇怪 我舅舅當年沒有邀請臺灣人去他家烤肉啊?
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2012-04-14T22:20
我是右邊第五個
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2012-04-18T02:27
來八卦像joke一樣
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2012-04-20T16:28
嗯嗯 我也有一點印象
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2012-04-23T12:45
小茲他喝醉了啦 我是那天灌他酒的
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2012-04-24T05:54
http://tinyurl.com/xxxxxx
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2012-04-26T21:24
有掛有推~
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2012-04-30T10:14
上面利害, 我那幾篇找人文都刪掉了你還找的到....
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2012-05-04T14:19
我信了 雖然您暱稱很有台味
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2012-05-08T23:09
強者文
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2012-05-11T19:53
聽說他家是買下一段海灣蓋的,有遊艇可開出海,是嗎?
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2012-05-14T04:14
正港台灣人到哪都還素有台味. (∩_∩)
David avatar
By David
at 2012-05-14T11:36
我還記得我們在北京人民大會堂一起見過鄧大人
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2012-05-17T22:51
我印象Gates那天穿了雙花襪子
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2012-05-19T06:57
這位垃圾似乎可以重重的打扁董智森的臉喔~
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2012-05-20T08:13
原來那天右手邊的是阿祥~~
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2012-05-21T03:48
靠北...這也太強大... 有豪洨成份嗎?
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2012-05-23T15:17
原PO年薪數千萬
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2012-05-24T23:19
樓樓上可以點qaz630210大大的網址就知道是不是豪洨~~
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2012-05-25T13:46
推強者
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2012-05-25T19:34
不知道Gates會不會後悔
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2012-05-27T19:40
這台味在海外感覺很溫馨 呵呵
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2012-05-28T05:26
推強者有掛
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2012-05-30T16:49
原po應該是微軟主管級員工....
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2012-06-01T14:00
乾爹~~~~~~~~~~~
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2012-06-02T04:15
我怎覺得看過這篇= = 哪裡轉來的/????
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2012-06-06T00:49
這件事大家早就都知道了阿
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2012-06-09T00:18
沒有轉啊, 剛剛花了快一小時打的...
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2012-06-12T15:54
你可以講點大家不知道的事情好嗎?
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2012-06-15T13:40
這一篇文章值 5 Ptt幣 果然是轉的XDDDDDD
這篇感覺在以前bbs連線版出現過!?
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2012-06-16T16:38
值少不見得是轉的阿,可能是在別的文件上打的
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2012-06-18T05:38
gates幹嘛要後悔,他早就不缺錢了,每年一直捐
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2012-06-18T18:09
是先打在 Notepad 再貼的. 不然打字 lag 很麻煩.
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2012-06-23T10:40
可以找到卡內基在微軟的訓練..
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2012-06-23T20:23
有八卦
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2012-06-27T04:09
fb Dale Carnegie Fall 2007
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2012-06-27T22:05
大哥我有妹妹還沒嫁,你結婚了嗎~~
lol
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2012-06-30T12:32
真假的,真是令人感動的事件
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2012-07-04T07:39
太久沒真強者出現...真懷念以前沒有小白反串的ptt
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2012-07-07T10:40
upa大是ABC吧
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2012-07-11T17:52
水喔
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2012-07-13T01:51
上面你人肉就人肉, 沒有必要全部貼出來吧.....
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2012-07-15T00:07
然後我結婚很久了, 小孩很大, 謝謝好意... :)
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2012-07-18T06:28
不吝嗇的說了很多關於 Apple 和 Jobs 的事情 到底說了什麼?
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2012-07-20T08:02
抱歉...那刪掉好了~~
可以幫我刪掉嗎~~
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2012-07-20T22:33
還是你去到的是比爾家 比爾陳
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2012-07-21T13:35
老實講, 年代久遠了, 我還真不記得太多.
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2012-07-23T14:54
對,我記得原PO~那天你有來我家...我每年都會有這樣的邀請的
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2012-07-25T05:27
因為其實微軟投資蘋果案,現在已經是舊聞了,說實話沒八卦
可以貢獻一下其他的八卦嗎
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2012-07-28T19:20
15000是有點少,年利率3%
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2012-07-30T17:46
XDDDDDD 大家太愛你了 烏帕
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2012-08-03T21:22
蘋果迷應該感謝蓋茲,不然哪來的這麼潮
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2012-08-04T22:42
我沒介意什麼,只是想抓住機會問問看有沒有其他的卦
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2012-08-05T15:33
有掛推~原PO強者~
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2012-08-08T01:12
沒關係~~~
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2012-08-12T13:39
我只想知道他家有多漂亮..應該很美吧>"< sorry
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2012-08-17T01:13
有沒有MS內部員工智商,星座血型的掛阿~~
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2012-08-21T00:53
ily, 你哪位, 叫烏帕的一定事舊識. :)
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2012-08-22T21:44
外國人資搞這種統計嗎~~
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2012-08-27T06:12
我去的是他的舊家, 新家記得是花了 $100M 買的. 我沒去過...
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2012-08-31T02:06
我跟李小龍哪根本就是師兄弟,難道我到處去告訴別人嗎?
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2012-09-01T12:22
我那時候坐你對面 有印象嗎
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2012-09-05T11:35
酷!!!!!!!!!!八卦復活
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2012-09-09T09:48
終於有真八卦文了 XD
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2012-09-09T23:43
我是那天你跟我要名片但剛好發完那位 記得嗎?
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2012-09-11T13:40
真八卦~推~也推QN~
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2012-09-16T01:31
阿瑟大大也來八卦板跟鄉民同樂? 借轉海外工作版 感恩
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2012-09-16T03:55
推 upa XD
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2012-09-20T09:49
沒有到有這麼資深的鄉民,話說在MSFT那麼久還真有耐心!
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2012-09-23T12:36
沒辦法, 走不掉.... :')
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2012-09-28T03:38
待這麼久也不太想走了吧
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2012-09-30T10:23
推~~~
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2012-10-03T11:15

有在越南平陽省怡安縣神浪2工業區工作的版友嗎?(女生尤

Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2011-10-04T21:37
目前人在神浪二工業區的工廠見習 平常下班沒是窩在宿舍到還是可以 但假日員工都回家去了 窩在宿舍其實也不知道幹甚麼 不知道有沒有也在神浪二� ...

Resume問題

Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2011-10-04T06:03
小弟最近在找工作 想問一下各位一個問題 當兵的經歷寫進Resume是好還是不好 要找的事情是EE相關 我知道當兵跟的經歷與未來工作不怎相關 只是增加篇 ...

請問要如何才能進入移民版呢?

Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2011-10-01T11:19
真的很不好意思 平時很少上來PTT晃,而且只會用一些基本的功能 最近要開始申請綠卡了 但心裡有些疑問想問 看到有人說要去移民版看 卻找都找不到( ...

SSN invalid or missing

Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2011-09-30T14:02
你的 SSN 是今年七月以後申請的嗎? 是的話你拿到的是 randomized SSN. 以前 SSN 的發法是人工登記的, 大致是方法是每個四位數的 SSN block 發給一個 social secur ...

SSN invalid or missing

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By Quanna
at 2011-09-30T08:58
最近遇到一個SSN的問題... 其實已經不是第一次了... 但是漸漸的發覺好像蠻嚴重的.... 事情是這樣的: (1) 我申請了CPT 也拿到了SSN卡+號碼 但是當我到� ...