一個科技公司最值錢的人才在哪個部門 - 工程師
By Xanthe
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雖然在科技版不想這樣說...頗刺耳
其實對老闆來說,業務才是公司營運的主體
就算在科技廠,通常混業務的就不是靠技術在混
而是靠我們肥宅工程師最不會的人情交陪
業務的吃飯工具有以下幾個:
1.對市場動脈的了解
包括公司做的產品現在市場上最先進的規格是什麼
還有下游有什麼應用,產品的成本等等
所以很多業務技術不懂,產品規格倒是蠻熟悉的
2.對客戶的了解
客戶的key man是誰,客戶有多少量,客戶的forecast等等
甚至你取得客戶的信任之後,客戶有事都會依賴你
3.溝通技巧
這個就比玄,很吃個人特質
有些人講話的方式就是很容易讓老闆、讓客戶接受
(只有肥宅工程師怎麼樣都不會想聽業務的)
所以你會發現跟公司經營階層關係最好的部門就是業務
(一定不會是RD)
講一個最實際的情況
通常業務都是接單然後丟開發需求給RD
但RD會知道業務是怎麼跟客戶談生意的嗎? 不會
通常RD什麼事都是最後知道的
客戶最大,業務又是客戶的窗口
所以業務講話的確頗大聲,也是靠RD水漲船高
要說誰比較不可取代...老RD似乎比老業務容易取代
※ 引述《pornstar (迪克)》之銘言:
: 看到推文很多推業務的, 業務是很重要啦~
: 但業務的影響力是建立在大家產品差不多,正要開拓藍海市場搶市占率的時候,
: 例如所有公司都是賣一百萬的Toyota,那賣最多Toyota的業務當然就很有價值,
: 所有公司也會想找這種業務來幫它們賣車,
: 但現在有另一家公司能做到同樣售價賣藍寶堅尼,
: 隨便請個大奶肥宅當業務業績都贏過在其它公司賣Toyota的業務,
: 你覺得這時候會被挖角的是那家的大奶肥宅業務??
: 還是用同樣成本/效率卻有做出藍寶堅尼技術的RD??
: 要討論哪個職位有價值, 看是要比:
: 1.在公司的不可取代性
: 或
: 2.個人年薪
: 論1, 這幾年美國雲端超火熱, 路邊丟個石頭都能砸中想轉用雲端技術的中小企業,
: 你在AWS, Google Cloud, Azure不論換誰當業務都很容易就有OTE,
: 真正屌的是後面RD團隊的系統設計跟PM,Marketing Strategy搞出來的Business Model,
: 少了RD在後面優化維穩開發藍寶堅尼,你sales就繼續在前線賣Toyota賣到失業吧~
: 論2, 基本上工程師的薪資都比達到OTE的sales高出一階,
: Google T3薪資跟幾年經驗的T4 OTE sales差不多,
: Amzn L4/L5 developer beat L5/L6 Sales,
: 很頂的Top Sales, Sales Lead當然賺得比"一般"工程師多,
: 但是同樣等級拿Staff, Principal, Distinguished Engineer來比也是贏過這些Sales,
: 不同產業Sales跟RD的重要性有差,
: 至少在科技創新龍頭領域業務是靠RD養的
--
其實對老闆來說,業務才是公司營運的主體
就算在科技廠,通常混業務的就不是靠技術在混
而是靠我們肥宅工程師最不會的人情交陪
業務的吃飯工具有以下幾個:
1.對市場動脈的了解
包括公司做的產品現在市場上最先進的規格是什麼
還有下游有什麼應用,產品的成本等等
所以很多業務技術不懂,產品規格倒是蠻熟悉的
2.對客戶的了解
客戶的key man是誰,客戶有多少量,客戶的forecast等等
甚至你取得客戶的信任之後,客戶有事都會依賴你
3.溝通技巧
這個就比玄,很吃個人特質
有些人講話的方式就是很容易讓老闆、讓客戶接受
(只有肥宅工程師怎麼樣都不會想聽業務的)
所以你會發現跟公司經營階層關係最好的部門就是業務
(一定不會是RD)
講一個最實際的情況
通常業務都是接單然後丟開發需求給RD
但RD會知道業務是怎麼跟客戶談生意的嗎? 不會
通常RD什麼事都是最後知道的
客戶最大,業務又是客戶的窗口
所以業務講話的確頗大聲,也是靠RD水漲船高
要說誰比較不可取代...老RD似乎比老業務容易取代
※ 引述《pornstar (迪克)》之銘言:
: 看到推文很多推業務的, 業務是很重要啦~
: 但業務的影響力是建立在大家產品差不多,正要開拓藍海市場搶市占率的時候,
: 例如所有公司都是賣一百萬的Toyota,那賣最多Toyota的業務當然就很有價值,
: 所有公司也會想找這種業務來幫它們賣車,
: 但現在有另一家公司能做到同樣售價賣藍寶堅尼,
: 隨便請個大奶肥宅當業務業績都贏過在其它公司賣Toyota的業務,
: 你覺得這時候會被挖角的是那家的大奶肥宅業務??
: 還是用同樣成本/效率卻有做出藍寶堅尼技術的RD??
: 要討論哪個職位有價值, 看是要比:
: 1.在公司的不可取代性
: 或
: 2.個人年薪
: 論1, 這幾年美國雲端超火熱, 路邊丟個石頭都能砸中想轉用雲端技術的中小企業,
: 你在AWS, Google Cloud, Azure不論換誰當業務都很容易就有OTE,
: 真正屌的是後面RD團隊的系統設計跟PM,Marketing Strategy搞出來的Business Model,
: 少了RD在後面優化維穩開發藍寶堅尼,你sales就繼續在前線賣Toyota賣到失業吧~
: 論2, 基本上工程師的薪資都比達到OTE的sales高出一階,
: Google T3薪資跟幾年經驗的T4 OTE sales差不多,
: Amzn L4/L5 developer beat L5/L6 Sales,
: 很頂的Top Sales, Sales Lead當然賺得比"一般"工程師多,
: 但是同樣等級拿Staff, Principal, Distinguished Engineer來比也是贏過這些Sales,
: 不同產業Sales跟RD的重要性有差,
: 至少在科技創新龍頭領域業務是靠RD養的
--
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