不要再強調信賴保護了好嗎? - 公職
By Jack
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at 2016-09-06T00:45
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我不是公務員 只是政黑版路人
來這邊逛逛以後發現這兒討論風氣明顯比政黑好太多
(一堆人用KMT話術造謠、跳針、洗版 唉~~~)
一些認真的話只能來這講 以免對牛彈琴
好 不囉嗦
我認為:現在年金改革的問題並非是否適用信賴保護原則的問題
而是如何妥善處理信賴保護原則「競合」的問題
什麼叫競合? 同樣適用信賴保護原則 由於退撫基金明顯不夠(估計再15年破產)
你保護了老人保不了新人...這就叫競合!
外面9/3風風雨雨 以公務人員協會為首 都在吵信賴保護問題
好像談改革就是要撤銷對軍公教的信賴保護一樣......
我認為這個討論方向不但明顯錯誤 而且是被刻意誤導!
是有意用訴諸悲情的方式 將年金改革汙名化!
事實上這些已經拿到退休金和18%的老人們算得很精......
當社會上頻頻呼籲各方應提出具體方案
公務人員協會、KMT、軍方這些單位 就偏偏不提出什麼有建設性的東西
一直跟你灰一直跟你亂......
為什麼?
因為他們清楚明白:只要能拖越久 就能照現狀領越多
至於15年後退撫基金破產 新一代軍公教要怎樣來信賴保護?
很抱歉...那時候他們該領的領完也差不多要作古了
他們不需要考慮這些問題
這就是一個明擺著債留子孫、吃相難看的惡質心態!
坦白講我覺得這些老軍公教被歧視是正常!
他們根本不管15年後 一旦退撫基金破產
下一代公務員所要面臨的窘境!
各位仔細想想:萬一退撫基金破產 你還有沒有辦法主張信賴保護?
Sorry! 很可能沒有了!
到時候政府可能跟你講說由於退撫基金已經破產清算
台端之信賴利益已因債權關係解除而解消 政府並無給付義務~~~~~
襪靠! 求償無門!!
到那時你要找誰哭? 納稅人?
從來都沒有法律規定說 當退撫基金破產的時候政府必須由稅收支應
就算有好了...
您認為現在的覺醒公民們 難道不會上街抗爭嗎?
還會讓自己辛辛苦苦賺來的稅金 白白繳給別人的父母嗎?
在選票考量下 最終政治人物們會選擇什麼方案?
恩 所以
真的不要再盲目服從那些老一輩的說法了
阿
之所以會講這麼多
是因為我家遠房親戚9/3不遠千里 花蓮包車北上遊行...
明明自己就只是年輕的軍職人員 15年後可能什麼都沒有的一群
待軍營待久了 被那些長官謠言洗腦
淪為為人作嫁幫人數鈔票...真是可悲
希望大家都能覺醒 勇於維護自己的權益!
我們勞工朋友會相挺的!
以上
--
來這邊逛逛以後發現這兒討論風氣明顯比政黑好太多
(一堆人用KMT話術造謠、跳針、洗版 唉~~~)
一些認真的話只能來這講 以免對牛彈琴
好 不囉嗦
我認為:現在年金改革的問題並非是否適用信賴保護原則的問題
而是如何妥善處理信賴保護原則「競合」的問題
什麼叫競合? 同樣適用信賴保護原則 由於退撫基金明顯不夠(估計再15年破產)
你保護了老人保不了新人...這就叫競合!
外面9/3風風雨雨 以公務人員協會為首 都在吵信賴保護問題
好像談改革就是要撤銷對軍公教的信賴保護一樣......
我認為這個討論方向不但明顯錯誤 而且是被刻意誤導!
是有意用訴諸悲情的方式 將年金改革汙名化!
事實上這些已經拿到退休金和18%的老人們算得很精......
當社會上頻頻呼籲各方應提出具體方案
公務人員協會、KMT、軍方這些單位 就偏偏不提出什麼有建設性的東西
一直跟你灰一直跟你亂......
為什麼?
因為他們清楚明白:只要能拖越久 就能照現狀領越多
至於15年後退撫基金破產 新一代軍公教要怎樣來信賴保護?
很抱歉...那時候他們該領的領完也差不多要作古了
他們不需要考慮這些問題
這就是一個明擺著債留子孫、吃相難看的惡質心態!
坦白講我覺得這些老軍公教被歧視是正常!
他們根本不管15年後 一旦退撫基金破產
下一代公務員所要面臨的窘境!
各位仔細想想:萬一退撫基金破產 你還有沒有辦法主張信賴保護?
Sorry! 很可能沒有了!
到時候政府可能跟你講說由於退撫基金已經破產清算
台端之信賴利益已因債權關係解除而解消 政府並無給付義務~~~~~
襪靠! 求償無門!!
到那時你要找誰哭? 納稅人?
從來都沒有法律規定說 當退撫基金破產的時候政府必須由稅收支應
就算有好了...
您認為現在的覺醒公民們 難道不會上街抗爭嗎?
還會讓自己辛辛苦苦賺來的稅金 白白繳給別人的父母嗎?
在選票考量下 最終政治人物們會選擇什麼方案?
恩 所以
真的不要再盲目服從那些老一輩的說法了
阿
之所以會講這麼多
是因為我家遠房親戚9/3不遠千里 花蓮包車北上遊行...
明明自己就只是年輕的軍職人員 15年後可能什麼都沒有的一群
待軍營待久了 被那些長官謠言洗腦
淪為為人作嫁幫人數鈔票...真是可悲
希望大家都能覺醒 勇於維護自己的權益!
我們勞工朋友會相挺的!
以上
--
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