友達無預警裁員近百人 - 加班
By Zanna
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※ 引述《hidog (.....)》之銘言:
: 臺北市政府來講
: 某些單位是朝八晚五 有些地方是朝九晚六
: 中午休息一小時半 朝九晚五? 我呆的地方是朝八晚五.
: 下班時間? 同樣看單位
: 爽的可以準時走 操的也是一樣留到八點以後
: 以前呆的單位的其他科室平均下班時間是八點以後
: 常常忙很晚要走了卻發現他們還在燈火通明
: 報加班? 也要看給不給報,超過時數的話頂多換補休
: 碰到不給報加班的主管你也只能吞下去.
: 不要整天在那邊公務員多爽多爽
: 真的覺得很爽就去考考看,考上了就會知道到底有沒有傳聞中的那麼爽
我其實不想打你的臉,不過我很討厭看到「你去考考看」這種言論。
先聲明,我是85年公務員高考三級及格,後來自己辭職了。
公務機關確實多半朝八晚五,不過,你有沒有想過,中午為什麼休息
一小時半?這樣算下來,你一天有上班八小時嗎?沒有!
照官方算法,公務員是從中午十二點半開始休息,休息到一點半,這
樣一天才有上班八小時,不過實際上,絕大多數的人都是十二點就開
始休息了,每天偷掉半小時。(我到私人企業上班才發現,原來外面
的人都是一點就開始上班了。)
還有,因為有人朝八晚五,有人朝九晚六,所以那些八點上班的人,
有些都是先進辦公室放好東西,再出去買菜,說起來,他們真正開始
工作的時間也是九點。
至於下班時間,我聽過有個機關,五點下班,四點五十七分就有人去
打卡鐘那邊排隊了。我還聽過有個機關,因為「離市區比較遠,容易
塞車」,所以他們的交通車下午四點五十就開車了。
另外,很多機關底下都有「市集」,裡面有餐廳、服飾攤、理髮部、
美髮部、洗衣部等等,而且,厲害了,這些商店都是六點就休息了,
他們的客人都是公務員,如果公務員不能翹班去消費,這些店就沒生
意了。(台北市政府也有,你一定很清楚。)
至於公務員加班,因為預算的關係,有時候確實可能沒有加班費,但
就像你說的,公務員至少可以換補休。我當了近六年的公務員,從來
沒聽過有人補休換不成的。但你可以在這個板問問,有多少人是每天
加班,很少領加班費,補休也換不成,最後送給公司的。私人企業,
沒有加班費是常態,換不到補休也很正常。
我以前待過一個號稱「非常精實」的公務機關,我們經常加班到晚上
八點,也確實像你說的「整間辦公室燈火通明」,不過我們開會的時
候也只有二、三個人講話,其他人也只是在那裡發呆而已。而上班時
間玩遊戲,看小說的,我就不拿出來講了。
: 民間企業比七點晚的很多 比五點早的也大有人在
: 要比爽比不完的,比操也是.
: 身邊也有人在大型傳產 IT部門四點開始打包五點一到就走光
: 這種要怎麼講? 可能遠比很多公務員要爽
沒有人要跟公務員比爽,私人企業爽的人很多。但私人企業員工再怎
麼爽,他們領的是股東的錢,不是納稅人的錢!既然考上公務員,領
的是國家的錢,就應該認真做,才不會對不起納稅人。過得太爽就應
該被批評。
如果怕被批評,不爽不要做!
--
: 臺北市政府來講
: 某些單位是朝八晚五 有些地方是朝九晚六
: 中午休息一小時半 朝九晚五? 我呆的地方是朝八晚五.
: 下班時間? 同樣看單位
: 爽的可以準時走 操的也是一樣留到八點以後
: 以前呆的單位的其他科室平均下班時間是八點以後
: 常常忙很晚要走了卻發現他們還在燈火通明
: 報加班? 也要看給不給報,超過時數的話頂多換補休
: 碰到不給報加班的主管你也只能吞下去.
: 不要整天在那邊公務員多爽多爽
: 真的覺得很爽就去考考看,考上了就會知道到底有沒有傳聞中的那麼爽
我其實不想打你的臉,不過我很討厭看到「你去考考看」這種言論。
先聲明,我是85年公務員高考三級及格,後來自己辭職了。
公務機關確實多半朝八晚五,不過,你有沒有想過,中午為什麼休息
一小時半?這樣算下來,你一天有上班八小時嗎?沒有!
照官方算法,公務員是從中午十二點半開始休息,休息到一點半,這
樣一天才有上班八小時,不過實際上,絕大多數的人都是十二點就開
始休息了,每天偷掉半小時。(我到私人企業上班才發現,原來外面
的人都是一點就開始上班了。)
還有,因為有人朝八晚五,有人朝九晚六,所以那些八點上班的人,
有些都是先進辦公室放好東西,再出去買菜,說起來,他們真正開始
工作的時間也是九點。
至於下班時間,我聽過有個機關,五點下班,四點五十七分就有人去
打卡鐘那邊排隊了。我還聽過有個機關,因為「離市區比較遠,容易
塞車」,所以他們的交通車下午四點五十就開車了。
另外,很多機關底下都有「市集」,裡面有餐廳、服飾攤、理髮部、
美髮部、洗衣部等等,而且,厲害了,這些商店都是六點就休息了,
他們的客人都是公務員,如果公務員不能翹班去消費,這些店就沒生
意了。(台北市政府也有,你一定很清楚。)
至於公務員加班,因為預算的關係,有時候確實可能沒有加班費,但
就像你說的,公務員至少可以換補休。我當了近六年的公務員,從來
沒聽過有人補休換不成的。但你可以在這個板問問,有多少人是每天
加班,很少領加班費,補休也換不成,最後送給公司的。私人企業,
沒有加班費是常態,換不到補休也很正常。
我以前待過一個號稱「非常精實」的公務機關,我們經常加班到晚上
八點,也確實像你說的「整間辦公室燈火通明」,不過我們開會的時
候也只有二、三個人講話,其他人也只是在那裡發呆而已。而上班時
間玩遊戲,看小說的,我就不拿出來講了。
: 民間企業比七點晚的很多 比五點早的也大有人在
: 要比爽比不完的,比操也是.
: 身邊也有人在大型傳產 IT部門四點開始打包五點一到就走光
: 這種要怎麼講? 可能遠比很多公務員要爽
沒有人要跟公務員比爽,私人企業爽的人很多。但私人企業員工再怎
麼爽,他們領的是股東的錢,不是納稅人的錢!既然考上公務員,領
的是國家的錢,就應該認真做,才不會對不起納稅人。過得太爽就應
該被批評。
如果怕被批評,不爽不要做!
--
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