年輕公教挺年金改革 籲世代平衡溯及既往 - 公職

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作者: Davichi5566 (我們不會再見面了) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [新聞] 年輕公教挺年金改革 籲世代平衡溯及既往
時間: Sun Jan 8 11:34:25 2017
年輕公教挺年金改革 籲世代平衡溯及既往
(中央社記者許秩維台北8日電)年輕公教代表今天表示,若年金改革失敗,45歲以下族
群將是年金破產時的受災戶,因此支持年金改革,呼籲顧及世代平衡,且改革方案一體適
用、溯及既往。
台灣公務革新力量聯盟、年輕公教警消年金改革陣線今天舉行記者會,會中上演行動劇,
抗議退休族群「繳少卻可以吃肉」,年輕族群「繳多卻只能喝湯」,呼籲年金改革必須顧
及世代平衡,且改革方案必須一體適用、溯及既往。
公革力聯盟代表林于凱表示,為了國家長遠發展,必須正視年金改革問題,但過去年輕世
代聲音沒有出來,主因是遭受壓力,很難在公開場合表達意見,但現在已經到了最後一步
,不得不站出來表態,希望合理推動年金改革、兼顧世代平衡。
林于凱指出, 如果年金改革失敗,45歲以下族群將是2030年年金破產時的嚴重受災戶,
以公教退輔基金為例,將有很大缺口,政府只能拿稅金來撥補,屆時納稅人每繳100元稅
金中,就可能有25元用來填補退休金缺口,而就學補助、營養午餐等教育預算就可能受到
排擠。
台灣風險與保險學會理事長王儷玲提到,年金改革最大影響是世代不均,年輕世代要背負
很大負擔,年金改革應多元漸進,所得替代率超過70%的應該下降,把給付拿回給基金,
其中產生的缺口,應部分由政府定期撥補,提升投資報酬率、下降老年人所得替代率,才
能解決世代不公問題,年金改革應該從止血開始,不要再製造新的缺口。
燃點公民平台理事長蔡致中指出,年金改革應該讓退休保障永續化、債留子孫極小化,但
現在基金嚴重提撥不足,繳很少卻要領很多,如軍公教退輔基金現在每年流出的錢比流入
的多,整個基金萎縮,若退休基金破產,就會導致政府破產,最後不是要加稅,就是學校
或政府機關要關門。
年輕公教代表也提出幾點訴求,呼籲年金改革必須顧及世代平衡、改革方案溯及既往且一
體適用,改革必須拉平階級間的退休差距,支持訂定天花板和樓地板條款,讓年金回歸滿
足退休後基本生活的設計初衷,退輔基金監理委員會應納入各界代表,年金改革應以永續
經營為前提、採動態調整的制度設計,年金改革應有更多年輕公教代表。1060108
http://appweb.cna.com.tw/webm/news/firstnews/201701080055.aspx
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作者: Davichi5566 (我們不會再見面了) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [新聞] 年輕公教挺年金改革 籲世代平衡溯及既往
時間: Sun Jan 8 11:34:25 2017
年輕公教挺年金改革 籲世代平衡溯及既往
(中央社記者許秩維台北8日電)年輕公教代表今天表示,若年金改革失敗,45歲以下族
群將是年金破產時的受災戶,因此支持年金改革,呼籲顧及世代平衡,且改革方案一體適
用、溯及既往。
台灣公務革新力量聯盟、年輕公教警消年金改革陣線今天舉行記者會,會中上演行動劇,
抗議退休族群「繳少卻可以吃肉」,年輕族群「繳多卻只能喝湯」,呼籲年金改革必須顧
及世代平衡,且改革方案必須一體適用、溯及既往。
公革力聯盟代表林于凱表示,為了國家長遠發展,必須正視年金改革問題,但過去年輕世
代聲音沒有出來,主因是遭受壓力,很難在公開場合表達意見,但現在已經到了最後一步
,不得不站出來表態,希望合理推動年金改革、兼顧世代平衡。
林于凱指出, 如果年金改革失敗,45歲以下族群將是2030年年金破產時的嚴重受災戶,
以公教退輔基金為例,將有很大缺口,政府只能拿稅金來撥補,屆時納稅人每繳100元稅
金中,就可能有25元用來填補退休金缺口,而就學補助、營養午餐等教育預算就可能受到
排擠。
台灣風險與保險學會理事長王儷玲提到,年金改革最大影響是世代不均,年輕世代要背負
很大負擔,年金改革應多元漸進,所得替代率超過70%的應該下降,把給付拿回給基金,
其中產生的缺口,應部分由政府定期撥補,提升投資報酬率、下降老年人所得替代率,才
能解決世代不公問題,年金改革應該從止血開始,不要再製造新的缺口。
燃點公民平台理事長蔡致中指出,年金改革應該讓退休保障永續化、債留子孫極小化,但
現在基金嚴重提撥不足,繳很少卻要領很多,如軍公教退輔基金現在每年流出的錢比流入
的多,整個基金萎縮,若退休基金破產,就會導致政府破產,最後不是要加稅,就是學校
或政府機關要關門。
年輕公教代表也提出幾點訴求,呼籲年金改革必須顧及世代平衡、改革方案溯及既往且一
體適用,改革必須拉平階級間的退休差距,支持訂定天花板和樓地板條款,讓年金回歸滿
足退休後基本生活的設計初衷,退輔基金監理委員會應納入各界代表,年金改革應以永續
經營為前提、採動態調整的制度設計,年金改革應有更多年輕公教代表。1060108
http://appweb.cna.com.tw/webm/news/firstnews/201701080055.aspx
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天到晚「老人欺負我、老人吃我的...」論述完全沒有針對爭議
點...你這種素質...考績三丙淘汰的草案設計,真的非你莫屬,
感覺就只會嘴炮欸。

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By Charlotte
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革後自己不能吃虧,實際改革當然不可能這樣。如果公
務人員調薪,已退的也會一起調嗎?這樣不就溯及既往
嗎?

By Tom
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既往及信賴保護原則二者與退休完全不能動是不同層次的好嗎?
馬幫幫忙。他也沒主張退休完全不能動,自以為懂?

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By Poppy
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宜還賣乖啊 還有臉拿18% 臉皮真厚

By Charlotte
at 2017-11-08T00:01
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俸上面加薪,這樣就不會加到退休人員

By Connor
at 2017-11-08T22:26
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6:40講到調薪,供參考。

By Delia
at 2017-11-09T08:11
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By Yedda
at 2017-11-10T11:23
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生是有多悲慘要來這邊偽裝公務員反串啊

By Belly
at 2017-11-12T11:49
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By Rosalind
at 2017-11-13T00:23
at 2017-11-13T00:23
及既往原則。解決方式就是調整公務人員加給即可,這樣就會
比較公平正當。

By Sarah
at 2017-11-17T09:06
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By Steve
at 2017-11-20T08:49
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By Zanna
at 2017-11-23T04:15
at 2017-11-23T04:15
走什麼後門進去的?爛成這樣...根本是公務員最壞榜樣...

By Selena
at 2017-11-28T02:59
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By Selena
at 2017-11-30T01:21
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By Frederica
at 2017-12-03T06:01
at 2017-12-03T06:01
人生就只有一次而已 當年犧牲青春決定投入結果等到要退了

By Olga
at 2017-12-04T18:13
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By Hedy
at 2017-12-05T07:13
at 2017-12-05T07:13
但省下的錢要放入基金

By Bethany
at 2017-12-07T00:40
at 2017-12-07T00:40
自以為有參賽權,阿不就跟八卦版鄉民一天到晚幻想公務員
生活是怎樣一樣無意義XD跟個小學生討論微積分幹嘛,幫他
圍個圍兜兜叫他去旁邊吃布丁吧。

By Ida
at 2017-12-08T18:22
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By Kyle
at 2017-12-09T03:05
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By Lily
at 2017-12-11T00:05
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By Connor
at 2017-12-15T12:40
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By Dinah
at 2017-12-17T16:09
at 2017-12-17T16:09
完全沒有概念了XD

By Robert
at 2017-12-22T14:59
at 2017-12-22T14:59
生吧。不然證明一下你的身分來看看?哪個單位收你這種垃圾?

By Audriana
at 2017-12-24T07:55
at 2017-12-24T07:55

By Harry
at 2017-12-28T19:01
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By Irma
at 2018-01-01T21:31
at 2018-01-01T21:31
D

By Jake
at 2018-01-05T21:00
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By Ophelia
at 2018-01-08T21:54
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By Edward Lewis
at 2018-01-11T08:10
at 2018-01-11T08:10
八卦版說一直考不到的那種人壓力會很大,因為餐桌上親戚會
用一種憐憫又鄙視的表情看待這種人XD

By Elvira
at 2018-01-14T04:54
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By Mary
at 2018-01-15T01:15
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By Jack
at 2018-01-19T13:59
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By Noah
at 2018-01-23T14:34
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By Rachel
at 2018-01-24T05:30
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By Xanthe
at 2018-01-24T20:39
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By Regina
at 2018-01-26T19:53
at 2018-01-26T19:53
退撫基金是政府要來負責的,拿去護盤這種事也做得出來,
憑甚麼改變承諾要公務員承擔。還有18%跟退撫基金完全兩
回事,到底要被騙多久啊?

By Regina
at 2018-01-31T15:54
at 2018-01-31T15:54
不過一堆公務員靠繳錢就能當,就算現在是公務員也未必是
考上的,用這種自己無法證實的東西來貶低別人,也真是奇
觀一件了

By Kelly
at 2018-02-03T04:19
at 2018-02-03T04:19
盼望二十年後你被拿出來批鬥時,看看那時的年輕人不要
後悔自己也曾年輕過

By Gilbert
at 2018-02-03T17:58
at 2018-02-03T17:58

By Caitlin
at 2018-02-08T17:14
at 2018-02-08T17:14
反正30年後的事誰知道

By Hedda
at 2018-02-11T06:35
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By Connor
at 2018-02-13T04:08
at 2018-02-13T04:08
的月退全部靠退撫基金支出

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2018-02-14T06:49
at 2018-02-14T06:49

By Eartha
at 2018-02-17T13:10
at 2018-02-17T13:10
比較多嘛!!

By Zenobia
at 2018-02-20T15:24
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By Agnes
at 2018-02-24T16:03
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By Lucy
at 2018-02-27T15:42
at 2018-02-27T15:42
護盤是賺多少?

By Tracy
at 2018-02-28T05:18
at 2018-02-28T05:18
其他有的沒的,絕對不是臺股護盤

By David
at 2018-03-03T07:57
at 2018-03-03T07:57
那你怎麼會覺得 改老的 自己不會被動到?

By Joseph
at 2018-03-06T16:55
at 2018-03-06T16:55

By Sierra Rose
at 2018-03-08T03:40
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By Irma
at 2018-03-10T08:18
at 2018-03-10T08:18
會不會太辛苦

By Rosalind
at 2018-03-12T01:15
at 2018-03-12T01:15
倒了,才叫繳錢的來承受

By Bethany
at 2018-03-13T22:34
at 2018-03-13T22:34
有7趴多的

By Zora
at 2018-03-15T15:05
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By Christine
at 2018-03-16T22:26
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By Thomas
at 2018-03-16T23:45
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By Mason
at 2018-03-18T01:45
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By Faithe
at 2018-03-18T11:48
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By Faithe
at 2018-03-23T06:13
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By Mary
at 2018-03-27T02:45
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By Delia
at 2018-03-28T19:51
at 2018-03-28T19:51
那以後比照辦理時我們連抵抗的機會都不會有了

By Eartha
at 2018-03-30T05:25
at 2018-03-30T05:25
到時已領錢領到死的老人 會從墳墓裡蹦出來幫爭取福利?

By Heather
at 2018-04-04T02:40
at 2018-04-04T02:40
?

By Tracy
at 2018-04-04T22:57
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By Freda
at 2018-04-05T21:48
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By Aaliyah
at 2018-04-09T10:49
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By Audriana
at 2018-04-13T05:38
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By Candice
at 2018-04-15T23:58
at 2018-04-15T23:58
叫團結

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at 2018-04-18T08:05
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By Sierra Rose
at 2018-04-20T00:57
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