月薪8萬請不到人?商總:教育很失敗 - 工程師
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※ 引述《jeromeshih (以謹慎態度來面對問題)》之銘言:
: 從高教資源以及家庭回推來看
: 參考
: https://goo.gl/xLE3AU
: 台大經濟系教授林明仁與學生沈暉智的論文「論家戶所得與資產對子女教育之影響」
: https://goo.gl/eXqCF1
小弟家境貧寒,整天學別人喝廉價即期啤酒喝到醉,醉到只能勉強念到112,
應該可以提供點喝醉酒時的樣本作為參考.
這些醉語狂言僅適合市井小民的地方野史,端不上檯面.
112很多研究工作都是嚴重綁著研究經費,
不是說研究題目在關懷老人,
就有資格代表教授以及他以下的人士們,
做的研究題目是本著悲天憫人來的.
背地裡,
關懷什麼老人?
關懷什麼弱勢?
實驗室能拿到越多研究經費越重要,
教授以下的人士全部都被拿來用作計劃輸出工具人.
112電機,資工,資管等特別明顯.
現在GG威到全台瘋狂,
112也不例外,
相關研究所名額有限,
熱門組別搶到見血.
你說他們研究題目都是教授想出來的?
呵呵~
看看有多少比例是計畫研究經費的案子~
沒有全部,也有9成999999999999999999~
: 裡面有提到幾個點
: 1.台灣家庭所得最高的5%家庭的小孩,他們進台大的機率,是台灣所得最低的5%家庭小孩
: 的6倍
: https://i.imgur.com/9igPZdQ.png
112很多推甄進來的都是教授們互相認識的教授或是名門望族或是大企業老闆的子女,
這些扛著關係進來的學生能力再爛,
也能生的出很多多元的成績,
塞住你總是想挑戰他們的賤嘴,
例如美國野雞高中大學XX夏令冬令營競賽第三名.
試問,
一個家裡清寒的學生,
能有機會飛去美國參加個野雞高中大學三咪挖歌競賽?
還可以得獎?
: 2.資源對學校就讀的影響
: i.資源較多的學校,學生家庭背景也比較佳
: https://i.imgur.com/FVU41bK.png
: https://i.imgur.com/DQNKbll.png
: 也就是是否念台大跟家庭資源有關
: ii.高所得家庭子女進入私立大學比例較低
: https://i.imgur.com/j5CsoOF.png
不豪小,
當初很納悶,
華碩風神系列是那些暴發戶買得起?
上課親眼看過,
TMD我前一排學生,
至少三台風神NB.
秒進秒出深度學習,
112李XX的課堂助教在說什麼作業內容我都矇了,
口水滴到腳趾指甲和旁邊肉肉的夾縫裡.
我想家裡給這些資源,
上起深度學習,
應該特別有感覺~
可惜我這生無緣了~
: 3.有關家戶所得部分
: 台大學生的家庭所得中位數約為150萬,高於全體公立大學的近110萬,更遠高於私立大學
: 學生的家庭所得中位數100萬
每學期大家都會拿平均獎學金,
吝杯很悲催的拿去繳房租,
這些同學們卻都拿去上夜店,
開香檳,男女互相抱抱~
它們玩肥來,
還說吝杯不合群,
不一起粗乃玩.
蓋...
這就是金錢的力量~
: 4.不同階級生活經驗的差異
: a.如果你是生在衣食無虞的家庭,除了你的家人可能經常帶著你四處遊覽,你可能也比較
: 容易聽到你周邊的親友或鄰居的成功經驗,讓你對於未來的想像更加具體
: b.如果你生在較為弱勢的環境,每天光是為了溫飽就已經耗盡全力,周邊的人也大多是過
: 著差不多辛苦的生活,你可能就不會想到念書對你的將來可能帶來的好處有多麼大
: 其實有資源在現在的社會要進行優勢複製會更有機會
: 先不提有資源的家長可能頭腦的天分以及教學可能比較好,光讓小孩寒暑假國外念書,英
: 文先領先一截,然後再請家教來輔導學生其他科目,同樣能力的學生,自然成長的幅度會
: 有差異
: 而且以前人覺得聯考比較公平是因為大家都窮,不然有錢人的小孩可以多考幾次一樣不會
: 太公平
: 不過就讀學區當然是希望讓小孩能夠走在階級複製正確太道路,例如:
: BBC 50年跟拍
: https://goo.gl/VjQfKU
: 貧富差距的培養
: https://goo.gl/W6E1uv
: 資源優勢像在教室前端丟球
: https://goo.gl/mqx1jv
: 當然還是會有階級複製失敗的例子,只是比例多跟少的差異
: 所以參考以上,資源還是會影響到學校,進而影響階級
: 至於為何現在比較少三級貧戶的例子,一個是資源差距,另一個是台灣跟30年前比起來富裕了不少,這樣例子自然也會減少
: 不知大家覺得呢
: ※ 引述《Zionward (,)》之銘言:
: : 冒昧回一下
: : 科技板的大多數人,想必也是看數字的
: : 其實聯考是否比較可以讓偏鄉的學生翻轉命運
: : 遠在2002年就透過統計發現
: : 聯考也沒那麼有效
: : 大家可參酌一下這篇
: : https://www.thenewslens.com/article/85532
: : 基本上聯考時代,生在台北市還是比較容易上台大
: : 大家心中不免會想到
: : 就學時代那些來自偏鄉的超強同學、或陳總統之類
: : --但事實上他們是難能可貴的案例,不是通例
: : 教改之後,反而來自偏鄉的學生"跟以往相比","比較"容易上台大
: : (統計上,不過還是遠輸台北市的學生)
: : 階級複製一直都存在
: : 統計上,教改並沒讓這件事更嚴重
: -----
: Sent from JPTT on my Samsung SM-A7050.
112教授是相當現實的,
你是龍鳳生,
會對你特別照顧,
大家互相搓搓,拍拍,摸摸喔~
你是清寒學生,
哈哈,
怎麼不去考軍警?
不然簽下去不會喔?
TMD來112占用學校實驗室資源~
你就是人渣!
以上雖然很多諷刺,
但我是邊打邊哭的,
要肥去上班班了~
大家加油~
要愛台灣喔~
也要愛112喔~
--
: 從高教資源以及家庭回推來看
: 參考
: https://goo.gl/xLE3AU
: 台大經濟系教授林明仁與學生沈暉智的論文「論家戶所得與資產對子女教育之影響」
: https://goo.gl/eXqCF1
小弟家境貧寒,整天學別人喝廉價即期啤酒喝到醉,醉到只能勉強念到112,
應該可以提供點喝醉酒時的樣本作為參考.
這些醉語狂言僅適合市井小民的地方野史,端不上檯面.
112很多研究工作都是嚴重綁著研究經費,
不是說研究題目在關懷老人,
就有資格代表教授以及他以下的人士們,
做的研究題目是本著悲天憫人來的.
背地裡,
關懷什麼老人?
關懷什麼弱勢?
實驗室能拿到越多研究經費越重要,
教授以下的人士全部都被拿來用作計劃輸出工具人.
112電機,資工,資管等特別明顯.
現在GG威到全台瘋狂,
112也不例外,
相關研究所名額有限,
熱門組別搶到見血.
你說他們研究題目都是教授想出來的?
呵呵~
看看有多少比例是計畫研究經費的案子~
沒有全部,也有9成999999999999999999~
: 裡面有提到幾個點
: 1.台灣家庭所得最高的5%家庭的小孩,他們進台大的機率,是台灣所得最低的5%家庭小孩
: 的6倍
: https://i.imgur.com/9igPZdQ.png
112很多推甄進來的都是教授們互相認識的教授或是名門望族或是大企業老闆的子女,
這些扛著關係進來的學生能力再爛,
也能生的出很多多元的成績,
塞住你總是想挑戰他們的賤嘴,
例如美國野雞高中大學XX夏令冬令營競賽第三名.
試問,
一個家裡清寒的學生,
能有機會飛去美國參加個野雞高中大學三咪挖歌競賽?
還可以得獎?
: 2.資源對學校就讀的影響
: i.資源較多的學校,學生家庭背景也比較佳
: https://i.imgur.com/FVU41bK.png
: https://i.imgur.com/DQNKbll.png
: 也就是是否念台大跟家庭資源有關
: ii.高所得家庭子女進入私立大學比例較低
: https://i.imgur.com/j5CsoOF.png
不豪小,
當初很納悶,
華碩風神系列是那些暴發戶買得起?
上課親眼看過,
TMD我前一排學生,
至少三台風神NB.
秒進秒出深度學習,
112李XX的課堂助教在說什麼作業內容我都矇了,
口水滴到腳趾指甲和旁邊肉肉的夾縫裡.
我想家裡給這些資源,
上起深度學習,
應該特別有感覺~
可惜我這生無緣了~
: 3.有關家戶所得部分
: 台大學生的家庭所得中位數約為150萬,高於全體公立大學的近110萬,更遠高於私立大學
: 學生的家庭所得中位數100萬
每學期大家都會拿平均獎學金,
吝杯很悲催的拿去繳房租,
這些同學們卻都拿去上夜店,
開香檳,男女互相抱抱~
它們玩肥來,
還說吝杯不合群,
不一起粗乃玩.
蓋...
這就是金錢的力量~
: 4.不同階級生活經驗的差異
: a.如果你是生在衣食無虞的家庭,除了你的家人可能經常帶著你四處遊覽,你可能也比較
: 容易聽到你周邊的親友或鄰居的成功經驗,讓你對於未來的想像更加具體
: b.如果你生在較為弱勢的環境,每天光是為了溫飽就已經耗盡全力,周邊的人也大多是過
: 著差不多辛苦的生活,你可能就不會想到念書對你的將來可能帶來的好處有多麼大
: 其實有資源在現在的社會要進行優勢複製會更有機會
: 先不提有資源的家長可能頭腦的天分以及教學可能比較好,光讓小孩寒暑假國外念書,英
: 文先領先一截,然後再請家教來輔導學生其他科目,同樣能力的學生,自然成長的幅度會
: 有差異
: 而且以前人覺得聯考比較公平是因為大家都窮,不然有錢人的小孩可以多考幾次一樣不會
: 太公平
: 不過就讀學區當然是希望讓小孩能夠走在階級複製正確太道路,例如:
: BBC 50年跟拍
: https://goo.gl/VjQfKU
: 貧富差距的培養
: https://goo.gl/W6E1uv
: 資源優勢像在教室前端丟球
: https://goo.gl/mqx1jv
: 當然還是會有階級複製失敗的例子,只是比例多跟少的差異
: 所以參考以上,資源還是會影響到學校,進而影響階級
: 至於為何現在比較少三級貧戶的例子,一個是資源差距,另一個是台灣跟30年前比起來富裕了不少,這樣例子自然也會減少
: 不知大家覺得呢
: ※ 引述《Zionward (,)》之銘言:
: : 冒昧回一下
: : 科技板的大多數人,想必也是看數字的
: : 其實聯考是否比較可以讓偏鄉的學生翻轉命運
: : 遠在2002年就透過統計發現
: : 聯考也沒那麼有效
: : 大家可參酌一下這篇
: : https://www.thenewslens.com/article/85532
: : 基本上聯考時代,生在台北市還是比較容易上台大
: : 大家心中不免會想到
: : 就學時代那些來自偏鄉的超強同學、或陳總統之類
: : --但事實上他們是難能可貴的案例,不是通例
: : 教改之後,反而來自偏鄉的學生"跟以往相比","比較"容易上台大
: : (統計上,不過還是遠輸台北市的學生)
: : 階級複製一直都存在
: : 統計上,教改並沒讓這件事更嚴重
: -----
: Sent from JPTT on my Samsung SM-A7050.
112教授是相當現實的,
你是龍鳳生,
會對你特別照顧,
大家互相搓搓,拍拍,摸摸喔~
你是清寒學生,
哈哈,
怎麼不去考軍警?
不然簽下去不會喔?
TMD來112占用學校實驗室資源~
你就是人渣!
以上雖然很多諷刺,
但我是邊打邊哭的,
要肥去上班班了~
大家加油~
要愛台灣喔~
也要愛112喔~
--
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