製程技術台積電幹掉intel 五年內可能嗎? - 工程師

By Sarah
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※ 引述《lovepork (我愛豬肉不愛牛肉)》之銘言:
對文發言,
intel的本業 是 自我設計 ---> 自我製造
台積電的本業是 他人設計 ---> 幫忙製造.
在本質上是不同的, 所以在本業上 是誰也幹不掉誰.
那Morris 講的 intel 大猩猩 又是何意?
intel發現 代工這塊, 原來利潤這麼高. 決定跨足到 代工.
所以 台積電跟intel 就碰上了.
在製程技術上,毫無疑問是intel領先,但是,代工技術上卻未必.
因為design ---> 製造, 這中間的橋樑是需要長久時間經驗累積.
intel 有的是 intel design --> intel 製造.
這不代表 他公司的design ---> intel 製造, 良率就會OK.
但台積有多年的 他公司design ---> 台積製造的成功經驗.
這是台積的優勢, 也是Morris強調的長期客戶合作關係.
所以 intel 跟三星, 輸在這個利基點上, 他們只能打
單一大客戶 ---> 投注大量工程師 to fix bug來搶單 ex: apple 的A9訂單.
假如各位可以理解上面的關係, 就可以知道.
intel 要滅 台積 很難, 但要讓 台積電少賺點, 是有可能發生.
接下來, 要順便跟各位談談 每次看到 有人把台積的成功 --> 輪班星人
就覺得 某人把這個殘酷的世界看的小了.
假如這個關係式是正確的, 那請問, 我們的對岸, 不是更有本錢玩這個遊戲?
值班人數直接 x2, or x3. 人海戰術打死我們.
事實上, n年前大陸就有國家扶持的中芯, 事到今日也沒有超越台積.
台積之所以成為台積, 是大家在自己崗位上,把自己的工作做對做好,
或許嚴厲, 或許苛求, 但一點一滴贏出來的.
假設你努力學習,考好之後,
開始有些嫉妒 或羨慕的人,
造謠說 你死讀書出來的.
你覺得呢?
: 台積電的研發支出已經逼近INTEL百億美元之譜
: 台積電靠輪班星人打遍天下無敵手...沒人有辦法複製這種成功模式
: 加上良率和自主技術是商業競爭力來源
: 十年內甚至是五年內 資產規模很有可能贏過INTEL
: 而且台積電是從地基起大樓 不像三星根基不穩
: 一下就被蘋果小米幹掉 現在變很慘
: 當台積電總資產和研發支出贏過INTEL那天
: 美國人會怎麼應對??
: 畢竟晶圓這塊應該屬於核心高科技
: 讓台灣贏走獨佔美國人面子往哪擺??
: 但美國想靠法律戰還是商業戰對台積電根本不痛不癢....
: 有沒有八卦呢??
: OBOV表示..........?
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對文發言,
intel的本業 是 自我設計 ---> 自我製造
台積電的本業是 他人設計 ---> 幫忙製造.
在本質上是不同的, 所以在本業上 是誰也幹不掉誰.
那Morris 講的 intel 大猩猩 又是何意?
intel發現 代工這塊, 原來利潤這麼高. 決定跨足到 代工.
所以 台積電跟intel 就碰上了.
在製程技術上,毫無疑問是intel領先,但是,代工技術上卻未必.
因為design ---> 製造, 這中間的橋樑是需要長久時間經驗累積.
intel 有的是 intel design --> intel 製造.
這不代表 他公司的design ---> intel 製造, 良率就會OK.
但台積有多年的 他公司design ---> 台積製造的成功經驗.
這是台積的優勢, 也是Morris強調的長期客戶合作關係.
所以 intel 跟三星, 輸在這個利基點上, 他們只能打
單一大客戶 ---> 投注大量工程師 to fix bug來搶單 ex: apple 的A9訂單.
假如各位可以理解上面的關係, 就可以知道.
intel 要滅 台積 很難, 但要讓 台積電少賺點, 是有可能發生.
接下來, 要順便跟各位談談 每次看到 有人把台積的成功 --> 輪班星人
就覺得 某人把這個殘酷的世界看的小了.
假如這個關係式是正確的, 那請問, 我們的對岸, 不是更有本錢玩這個遊戲?
值班人數直接 x2, or x3. 人海戰術打死我們.
事實上, n年前大陸就有國家扶持的中芯, 事到今日也沒有超越台積.
台積之所以成為台積, 是大家在自己崗位上,把自己的工作做對做好,
或許嚴厲, 或許苛求, 但一點一滴贏出來的.
假設你努力學習,考好之後,
開始有些嫉妒 或羨慕的人,
造謠說 你死讀書出來的.
你覺得呢?
: 台積電的研發支出已經逼近INTEL百億美元之譜
: 台積電靠輪班星人打遍天下無敵手...沒人有辦法複製這種成功模式
: 加上良率和自主技術是商業競爭力來源
: 十年內甚至是五年內 資產規模很有可能贏過INTEL
: 而且台積電是從地基起大樓 不像三星根基不穩
: 一下就被蘋果小米幹掉 現在變很慘
: 當台積電總資產和研發支出贏過INTEL那天
: 美國人會怎麼應對??
: 畢竟晶圓這塊應該屬於核心高科技
: 讓台灣贏走獨佔美國人面子往哪擺??
: 但美國想靠法律戰還是商業戰對台積電根本不痛不癢....
: 有沒有八卦呢??
: OBOV表示..........?
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