請教電資背景女性的職涯路線 - 工程師

Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2015-09-11T01:11

Table of Contents

※ 引述《annie ( )》之銘言:
: <<關於女性要怎麼在科技業當RD>>
: 先講結論
: 實力與態度最重要
: 穿著與外表頂多是加減分
: 注意,打扮有時是減分
: 其實這我覺得是假議題啦
: 應該改為「一個人要怎麼在科技業當RD」
這東西的先決條件是
你要先拿到RD offer
: <<關於本板>>
: 基本上這個板的風氣已經跟我當初入行差很多了,
: 與我年紀差不多、生活已經上軌道穩定有收入的RD,
: 幾乎每日忙於工作與家庭,不太有時間上網,
: 有些人更是早就沒玩PTT或從來沒有帳號,
: 即使有玩也是低調不太會發言。
: 也許是因為這樣,我所看到的才跟板友差這麼多吧。
: 希望板友減少引戰與發表歧視女性的言論,
: 君不見obov大都已經到達引戰頂峰了,
: 但當別人說建中的在捷運上背單字都是假鬼假怪,
: 他還是一樣會動怒。
: 偏激的言論,也許好笑,但偏離真實。
: 這就是為什麼女性都不想來這個板,
: 以及有經驗的工程師都不想再發言了。
: 再這樣下去損失的將會是想在這個板上獲取資訊的新板友,
: 像我倒是沒差,看笑話而已。

是壓很好笑

我以前公司某RD部門曾經有個正妹
後來公司大裁員的時候正妹因為考績墊底就GG惹
有些人直覺會說啊進去之後不認真才會這樣很正常啊

真正的問題是
主管當初找個不會做事的正妹進來幹嘛?
如果今天公司經營狀況沒問題
這裁員不會發生 正妹繼續在那爽爽過

後來沒多久就聽說那個正妹找到新工作惹
同時期被砍的歐巴桑就找得很辛苦


我直說八
女性在科技業職場議題很難理解全貌的喇
因為肥宅講真話
有時候會被當成歧視女性
有時候會被當成性騷擾

當然科技業有非常多優秀的女性
不過這些人基本上都累積多年經驗 大概都歐巴桑惹
外表也沒人在乎惹
可是
年輕正妹在科技業
跟其他人的起跑線 完全不一樣
這根本是常識


至於科技業認定正妹的標準
這摸說八
我高中的時候
人家說建中三年 母豬賽貂蟬
我大學的時候
人家說交大四年 母豬賽貂蟬
所以說標準是蛇摸
大家心照不宣
講太明又要被罵惹
QQ



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All Comments

George avatar
By George
at 2015-09-15T12:17
頭香
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2015-09-18T20:16
always 母豬賽貂蟬 謝謝
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2015-09-22T01:18
QQ
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2015-09-22T11:09
當兵一年 柱柱賽____
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2015-09-24T14:53
QQ
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2015-09-26T13:18
感謝大大開示
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2015-09-29T14:03
好久沒喊口號惹QQ
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2015-10-02T15:09
QQ
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2015-10-04T14:26
帥帥
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2015-10-06T02:05
現身啦~~
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2015-10-10T17:01
夜裡哭哭
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2015-10-10T20:07
ob'_'ov
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2015-10-14T15:59
QQ 好久不見啊
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2015-10-16T11:22
重生後,戰力好弱
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2015-10-21T05:55
真der 還在恨版po什麼五行衰旺 看來還沒循環回來 QQ
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2015-10-25T20:17
e04 出桶拉~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 豬皇萬歲
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2015-10-27T10:17
老實說我想換id惹 封頂很無聊 膩惹
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2015-10-31T19:49
文章讀完忽然感覺有股菜味..... 還我以前的OBOV
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2015-11-04T19:33
哈 該是重生惹 XD 換ID請站內信我
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2015-11-05T16:48
幹嘛那麼中肯?
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2015-11-09T19:06
霸氣回歸
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2015-11-13T01:07
三朝身寸
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2015-11-13T05:10
科技業 = 母豬的天堂 真心不騙
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2015-11-14T15:50
obov高處不勝寒是吧
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2015-11-14T23:20
風格太明顯了 換ID還是八成一直被桶
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2015-11-18T19:44
太普的真的會跟男生一樣 沒優勢
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2015-11-19T00:03
幹0糧真的太中啃 起跑線差他媽的多
來膜拜一下教主
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2015-11-22T16:23
見識過厲害 自然會覺得有差 又不是到處都有正妹RD
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2015-11-23T05:53
中肯到爆炸
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2015-11-26T08:51
終於現身
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2015-11-29T01:57
跪著推文 看大濕
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2015-11-30T03:01
別人認真文 你這篇蠻費的
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2015-11-30T22:21
教主必推
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2015-12-05T02:36
==========================================棒讚優!
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2015-12-08T01:15
正妹當然是有優勢,但也只是像你說的,在起跑線上而已。
這些會逐年遞減,過了5年後還想像剛開始一樣吃香是不太可
能。除非很有手段,或進了奇怪的公司~
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2015-12-11T02:09
另外obov大也只能在ptt評論女性吃香與否吧,在水果公司
內要是發表這種言論就GG了
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2015-12-16T00:12
有道理
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2015-12-20T16:47
太溫和 欠噓
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2015-12-22T12:33
難怪大大最後轉性選庫克 真愛
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2015-12-23T17:47
那些外商高科技公司官網上的正妹照片真的都是公司員工嗎?
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2015-12-28T05:28
那些正妹圖是我想從事高科技的唯一希望了!
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2015-12-28T10:07
主管面試我都問是不是正妹先
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2015-12-29T11:06
obov大可以去找小商人
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2016-01-01T02:04
u質好文 推
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2016-01-05T14:50
qqq
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2016-01-10T10:39
被盜號???
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2016-01-11T16:06
是在嫉妒什麼? 人家至少還能選擇要不要在蘋果公司講
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2016-01-14T10:17
這種話, 啊你是什麼喀? 連去水果公司的資格都欠奉
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2016-01-15T03:22
我看到匿稱都濕嘍
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2016-01-16T12:34
ob'_'ov
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2016-01-21T10:53
優質
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2016-01-24T13:44
哭屁XDDD
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2016-01-25T09:21
哈哈哈
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2016-01-26T01:25
XD
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2016-01-27T04:28
教主英名
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2016-01-29T18:13
obov 快回來啊
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2016-01-29T19:58
被盜帳號了
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2016-02-01T08:42
好想看obov跟kelly 戰 XD
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2016-02-04T00:31
XD..
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2016-02-06T10:46
ob'_'ov
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2016-02-10T12:42
三朝身寸惹
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2016-02-12T14:50
ob'_'ov
David avatar
By David
at 2016-02-17T01:54
教主開示惹 還不快拜 三朝身寸惹 ob'_'ov
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2016-02-18T21:05
教主好
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2016-02-22T11:12
內容中肯無誤XDDDDD
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2016-02-24T09:38
我倒是看到很多部經理級的女性主管,能力都很強
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2016-02-25T16:39
夜裡哭哭
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2016-02-29T20:42
你的霸氣都被桶到不見了喔
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2016-03-02T15:08
我怎麼覺得M裡面一堆又正能力又強的
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2016-03-04T20:44
X樓上沒圖沒真相
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2016-03-08T20:22
ob'_'ov
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2016-03-11T22:10
幹0糧母豬滾辣
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2016-03-15T11:53
突然想到, 前幾天不是有兩個學生出來鬥嘴嗎? 花了一年
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2016-03-16T00:52
教主
David avatar
By David
at 2016-03-19T06:14
做 inverter 那個, 要說女生在一群宅宅沒優勢那是騙鬼
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2016-03-22T10:02
喔喔喔
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2016-03-26T22:23
ob'_'ov
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2016-03-27T21:44
這一篇正解 上一篇是女性視角出來說正咩不吃香
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2016-03-30T19:52
ob'_'ov
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2016-04-04T13:05
All hail obov!!
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2016-04-05T11:43
現身惹 ob'_'ov
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2016-04-07T03:48
ob大是不是越來越弱?
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2016-04-08T19:48
母豬神 朝拜
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2016-04-10T02:07
教主 在這版沒被水桶喔XD 不是被水桶幹幹幹給桶了?
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2016-04-12T13:27
剛出桶而已xd
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2016-04-12T18:02
看到內容就知道 QQ
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2016-04-15T12:22
obov_有神快拜
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2016-04-15T23:11
真的是把沒常識的電到都歪惹 理工科都白念惹
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2016-04-17T22:21
太溫和了拉XDDDD
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2016-04-19T02:24
嫉妒個鬼,水果公司裡那種高薪但要你賣命的文化不是大家
都想進的。
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2016-04-19T20:28
好像要開始戰了 科科 台灣的公司都不用賣命?
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2016-04-24T04:19
明明就實話 女生本來就吃香 正妹爽到翻天
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2016-04-25T02:20
obov
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2016-04-25T03:22
ob'_'ov
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2016-04-27T18:02
呵呵呵 主管找什麼都不會的正妹進來幹嘛 你說勒????
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2016-04-30T04:38
就是進不去, 所以說不是大家都想進來掩飾自己酸酸
Una avatar
By Una
at 2016-05-01T11:01
科科,不用賣命的有啊,我的公司就是。薪水當然是不會高
得像水果,但也夠用了。
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2016-05-04T16:12
不是大家都想進這種話只有進的去的人才能講, 進不去
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2016-05-07T03:27
的也講這種話就是一整個搞笑
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2016-05-07T08:58
樓上怎麼知道我進不去水果呢?是有在水果總部看到我去面
試被打槍嗎?啾咪
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2016-05-07T23:27
要鳩咪請去傻發版, 在這邊鳩咪只會讓人聯想某種四腳
捲尾巴動物
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2016-05-08T22:18
回歸主題,科技業裡正妹會吃香還不是男同事們寵出來的
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2016-05-11T12:51
正妹會的地方只有你主管知道阿0..0
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2016-05-15T18:25
這不是我認識的obov!
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2016-05-18T09:06
四腳捲尾巴動物很好啊!也是有人當寵物養的呢!真不知道
你在幫obov捍衛什麼。我說的是實話,相信他也明白在美國
公司內說出有性別岐視的話下場有多慘,不只你工作會不保
,也很難再找的到好工作。這不是選擇說不說那麼簡單而已
。離題太多了,就說到這。
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2016-05-22T15:04
太神了
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2016-05-24T03:48
不發表歧視言論就不會有歧視嗎?不在ptt說真話難不成你在公
司說?
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2016-05-25T12:52
會有人在公司內說歧視言論也真的不簡單 科科
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2016-05-30T09:04
Obov
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2016-06-04T00:27
教主火力下降
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2016-06-04T04:35
今日的obov累了 水果發表新手機累了嗎
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2016-06-08T15:37
我就直說吧 ob'_'ov我愛你
David avatar
By David
at 2016-06-10T11:00
朝聖 我先^^
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2016-06-12T12:27
朝聖
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2016-06-16T01:14
教主說的好 本來就有很多好處 屁一堆想漂白
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2016-06-18T11:43
母豬亂世 貂蟬難求
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2016-06-21T15:33
好中肯喔
James avatar
By James
at 2016-06-21T20:48
這就是真實阿 推
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2016-06-26T02:41
ob'_'ov
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2016-06-26T05:37
感謝開示
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2016-06-28T10:22
中肯
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2016-07-02T20:49
幫補先
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2016-07-06T18:09
obov
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2016-07-11T00:53
起跑點不一樣 未來就可以差個十萬八千里
這點沒甚麼好質疑的
反正我想講的很簡單 正妹有優勢
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2016-07-11T21:58
然後科技業對正妹的標準很寬
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2016-07-16T13:38
戰力不足 怒噓
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2016-07-19T14:57
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2016-07-24T07:47
教主文風太好認 就算轉生還是桶王啊XD
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2016-07-26T14:18
捍衛什麼? 捍衛事實啊, 是在玻璃心什麼?
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2016-07-31T01:18
ya
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2016-08-04T11:23
母豬
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2016-08-06T10:54
轉生後戰力變弱了
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2016-08-06T22:09
其實不只是科技業 正妹找工作真的很有優勢 哀
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2016-08-10T12:43
obov
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2016-08-10T15:51
幫補血
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2016-08-14T09:54
會怕就好...性別歧視字句不要亂講
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2016-08-17T06:45
為什麼obov白天可以發文啊
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2016-08-19T02:14
ob'_'ov
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2016-08-21T09:24
母豬夜哭
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2016-08-25T23:48
幹0糧唯一支持
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2016-08-30T09:00
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2016-09-03T09:12
還滿奇怪的 被歧視照理來說應該是被打壓 部份正妹
反而是佔了便宜 結果還被歸類成被歧視 這種歧視也
太讚了吧 肥宅有機會遇到嗎?
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2016-09-03T16:44
幫補 你會被說歧視女性 新竹一堆公主病
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2016-09-05T20:59
母豬母豬
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2016-09-07T06:08
Obov!
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2016-09-08T23:34
講話當然要小心一點 都被針對惹 不然又要水桶淦淦淦惹
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2016-09-12T18:48
推推,不過這次戰力不足…
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2016-09-17T00:24
ob'_'ov
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2016-09-20T09:34
女性在科技業說靠實力就跟自耕農說白手起家一樣好笑
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2016-09-20T11:23
u質好文
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2016-09-24T01:33
教主!!朝聖!!
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2016-09-28T19:11
水桶贛贛 母豬夜哭
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2016-10-01T07:45
推,說實在外貌本來就是一種優勢,這就是社會現實...
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2016-10-06T00:36
>/////<
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2016-10-09T19:24
教主好!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2016-10-11T21:03
ob'_'ov
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2016-10-12T09:40
OBOV
George avatar
By George
at 2016-10-14T17:34
想當班花~記得讀工科喔XD
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2016-10-15T09:31
ob'_'ov
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2016-10-19T12:11
ob'_'ov 母豬教教徒朝聖。
John avatar
By John
at 2016-10-19T19:17
http://i.imgur.com/XI7iGoh.jpg
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2016-10-21T00:31
水桶幹幹幹
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2016-10-25T18:42
教徒前來朝聖
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2016-10-27T13:16
obˋ_ˊov 凸 母豬教教主朝聖
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2016-10-28T09:16
ob'_'ov
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By Caitlin
at 2016-11-01T01:10
母豬母豬夜裡哭哭><
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2016-11-04T04:09
好收斂喔XDDD
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2016-11-06T15:18
幹 根本白色恐怖
George avatar
By George
at 2016-11-07T10:35
你是偽物嗎 怎沒有 幹0糧母豬滾辣 來收頭
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2016-11-11T20:13
既然都 母豬賽貂蟬 怎麼還會 夜裡哭哭 呢
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2016-11-13T07:54
ob'_'ov
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2016-11-14T13:39
發現大家都沒提到人脈 人脈差再正也吃不了多久
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By Belly
at 2016-11-15T14:29
純推大師
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By Kumar
at 2016-11-17T11:23
哭哭
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By Ula
at 2016-11-19T09:33
ob'_'ov
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2016-11-21T22:29
回來惹ㄦ
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By Megan
at 2016-11-22T06:09
ob'_'ov
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2016-11-25T10:59
你怎麼會怕被罵 教主大人 ob'_'ov
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2016-11-29T09:46
ob'_'ov
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2016-12-02T06:53
推, 最喜歡你說實話.
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2016-12-05T08:15
母豬哭哭
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2016-12-06T23:56
豬皇~~~
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2016-12-10T00:49
三朝身寸惹
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By Rebecca
at 2016-12-14T15:16
母__
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2016-12-19T14:10
推 教主
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2016-12-24T12:27
幹 obov大講話真他媽中肯
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2016-12-26T21:41
回來惹兒
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2016-12-29T04:36
潮聖
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2017-01-01T11:46
朝聖
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By Lauren
at 2017-01-06T04:10
ob'_'ov 好久不見!
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2017-01-11T02:17
來認真回教主一下好了
每個人的起跑線都是一樣的
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By Bethany
at 2017-01-13T02:08
ob'_'ov
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By Margaret
at 2017-01-18T01:12
翻譯: 沒常識 ㄏㄏ 沒常識 ㄏㄏ沒常識 ㄏㄏ沒常識 ㄏㄏ

兩份工作的選擇

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By Ursula
at 2015-09-11T00:21
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徵求有招募需求的科技業廠商

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By Eden
at 2015-09-10T23:51
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數宇雲端

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By Jacky
at 2015-09-10T23:49
有人聽過 [數宇雲端] (中國浪潮集團) 嗎? 網路上沒什麼相關資訊 。 工作內容和我的領域不太相同,但陸資一向敢給出名, 有人知道底薪/年薪大概多少 ...

科技人悲歌!「為什麼八點之後叫正常?」

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By Sarah
at 2015-09-10T23:37
台灣人很多人常常會有錯誤的觀念就是 認真工作會獲得上司的賞識而升官 實際上這個觀念可能是錯誤的 因為你越認真工作 你上司越可以高枕無憂 �� ...

Offer請益(華碩/中鼎)

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By Bethany
at 2015-09-10T23:12
各位前輩大家晚安, 小弟118電機學碩,有幸拿到這兩家公司的offer 公司 華碩 中鼎 部門 伺服器 電機設計部 職位 ...