都可以普發六千了,要加薪10%才對 - 公職

By Candice
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雖然有加比沒加好,加4%顯然不夠
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支持
1.全教總加薪10%之提案
2.軍公教加薪法制化
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理由如下:
一、兩年內「重要民生物資價格」漲了約11%,房價指數漲約20%
112年4月CPI重要民生物資價格變動概況
指數110年=100
(中略)
17項平均 111.1
資料來源:中華民國統計資訊網(https://www.stat.gov.tw/cp.aspx?n=2665)
112年4月CPI重要民生物資價格變動概況
https://ws.dgbas.gov.tw/001/Upload/463/relfile/10315/2224/112%E5%B9%B4.pdf
二、可以普發六千,當然可以給軍公教加薪10%
普發6000,預算約要1400億
軍公教加10%預算約700億
補充
一、前贍8400億、普發六千1400億、2020-2023撥補勞保1470億、預計2024撥補勞保1000
億,這些現象跟政府沒錢的說法是矛盾的。
二、特別是普發六千,原來政府的錢可以這樣拿出來「灑」。再來跟你講財政會有困難,
軍公教加薪不能太高。
不能接受這種說法。
陳揆:明年撥補勞保1,000億預算
https://ctee.com.tw/news/policy/820670.html
以前菜的時候,資深同事說政府不是沒錢,是沒錢用在軍公教身上,
以前我是不太相信啦,希望政府不要坐實這種指控
政府想替軍公教加薪,理由可以有很多,例如保持初考與基本工資適當的差距,再審議過
後,決定加4%再普加N元,就能救場了。
在野黨想得分,上面的方案就先喊先贏,沒加是執政黨扣分,後來有再加上去,在野黨也
有功勞,選我正解。
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有錢發錢有錢補撥勞保沒錢補退撫,講出來給人笑的
?

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的制度

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自己被壓榨才有那些錢。

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到每年補撥上百億?事實就是補撥從頭到尾就是選票
考量而已

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不是?稅金收了不還債不弄基礎建設拿去討好民眾這
不是選舉考量是什麼?

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還是年年往上那個比較可能實現?

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By Rosalind
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務人員加薪到底有何關係?普發6000你沒領到嗎?
全民普發6000這種人人有獎的東西 也拿來當"厚此薄彼"的造句

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有資格領 其他人等能領到算雨露均沾了

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看待 哪天換黨上台 換站在政府方支持政府不調薪都有可能 呵~

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買不起? 別鬧了
雙北這種地方本來就是給投好胎的人買的

By Oliver
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所以另外列出房價指數漲幅

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退休制度一樣,退休保障只能靠自己

By Doris
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業稅跟軍公教完全無關嗎?當初說不用補的原因是:退撫法已
經規定分年撥補所以不用補,那請問這個傳說中的法定撥補在
哪裡?有法定撥補的不用補,沒有法定撥補的一年補得比一年
多,超徵還加碼補又是什麼道理

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麼也是每年只調3%?歷史上是有一次調到10%嗎?很多事情
有那麼簡單嗎?政府到這個時侯就變成可以說決定就決定
,你要抱怨沒問題,但這個角度太薄弱

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義藍綠白 別忘了公務人員行政中立法

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的一個點 我個人認為

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確有 但42年都沒大幅調過,代表威權時代後期及有民選
以來的總統都是無能的,這點我倒是支持,重點在於調或
不調,調高調少,都有話講啦 這次調4%我當然覺得要吵
一吵,就像勞團每次都不滿意,但真的不要其他東西牽扯
進來,要講是講不清的

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工,"剩的"再發股利是錯誤的。

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貢獻阿~ 但不等於會想用在你身上

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加薪我也開心啊。 你那種有多錢就應該XXX的造句

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為何企業不減稅? 這些繳稅大宗會有意見

By Suhail Hany
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用在你 而不是別人身上?

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優先用在哪比較不會有意見?

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By Selena
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注意喔 這裡面完全沒提到公務員,沒去動到公務員的稅

By Steve
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By Edward Lewis
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知道超徵是什麼事就太誇張了

By Freda
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By Ida
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By Edwina
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法是先收支平衡,平衡有多了再看要還債還是增加社會福
利,你用這個標準去問看政府這次作法是平穩的,只是優
先項目誰決定怎麼決定大家有得吵,但不管一切就叫你把
所有超徵拿來增加社福,那才是別有用心的政治操作,可
惜仇恨會讓人蒙蔽雙眼

By Thomas
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By Ivy
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退撫一個月多少?以前還可以說終身俸現在跟笑話一
樣喊一句共體時艱愛砍就砍,更不要說新制也自己繳
的領完就沒了,趕快跟勞工合併阿,順便積欠加班費
全部吐出來。

By Lily
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在退撫身上,講邏輯?

By Yedda
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民黨說要發一萬 民眾黨說要徵全發,有政黨是很care勞
保退撫問題嗎?講邏輯是別人講的,我的推文沒跟你講邏
輯,只講政治現實,現實就是沒政黨理你,也許刺耳但是
事實

By Xanthe
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By Tracy
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By Megan
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然來自不同族群的稅收為什麼要用來補別人?

By Genevieve
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保的缺, 你還說軍公教的稅收也是大家的嗎?

By Todd Johnson
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By Yedda
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By Ula
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By Rebecca
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By Tristan Cohan
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By Caitlin
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什麼道理,依你的說法就是誰稅繳多誰就貢獻的多,
所以公務員貢獻低,勞保補撥是應該的,公務員不補
撥也合理,但貢獻只有繳稅繳錢嗎?如果是這樣那根
本不需要公務員阿。以後要檢舉公司沒按勞基法,檢
舉產品有毒不合格,檢舉廢棄物亂倒,抱歉都不用檢
舉你自己跟公司講,因為這些東西沒有盈利沒有產值
。

By Rebecca
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公務員稅收誰多誰少,那最該先取消就是社會福利費
用了不是?這些需社福幫助的繳稅一定是繳的最少阿
,那憑什麼把勞工繳的錢拿去幫助他們。

By Todd Johnson
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錢被使用得不合理時, 正常會用選票反映。

By Puput
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除非默默享受特權,又要喊自己弱勢

By Anthony
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By Una
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用於自己未來勞退的沒那麼多。

By Anthony
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繳稅阿

By Queena
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企業不談, 同樣是在工作的勞工及公務員, 為什麼制度
不同?

By Madame
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遠大於公務員

By Mason
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By Jack
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制早在先例一開之後已無國家保障,但小眾容易淪為
弱勢倒是沒錯。

By Tom
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By Edwina
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By Mason
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收多少, 類似這樣各種機關或軍隊早賺爆了

By Lydia
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By Selena
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稅繳的多可以補,公務員稅繳的少不能補,那對公務
員並不公平,消防局收費賺一堆錢那消防員也應該提
升薪資待遇不是?

By Harry
at 2023-06-14T19:53
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,一個苛刻自己員工的企業能產生多少的利潤,能回
饋給股東的又有多少?

By Elizabeth
at 2023-06-15T20:48
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分攤比例再來講為什麼勞退會領得比公務員新制少

By Erin
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得現在政府作法不是這樣,可問題是國民民眾兩黨當時都
是主張超徵全發一萬元,是有跟你們的設想是一致的?至
於怎麼配,當然那邊票多給那邊,每一黨當執政黨都這樣
吧?直白講就這樣,你說誰這件事上是清流我目前是沒看
到啦

By Madame
at 2023-06-15T20:48
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那麼企業賺的多,勞工會怎麼想?

By Oliver
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By Sierra Rose
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講白了,你直覺也不認為消防局賺的多要用來補給勞工吧?

By Michael
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By Jake
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By William
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薪資成本裡了, 羊毛出在羊身上。

By Olive
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By Thomas
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By Olga
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嗎,公務員躺平擺爛,對這些股東可以產生好的結果
嗎?員工治理要嘛給鞭子要嘛給糖果,鞭子沒用糖果
不想給,最後就是向下沉淪而已。至於你說結果論那
也沒錯,只是時間還沒到誰也說不準不是嗎?就慢慢
看摟。

By Ethan
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By Zenobia
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By Kyle
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遇給的很爛績效還能很好的公司不知道s大有沒有認識
的能參考看看。

By Puput
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By Connor
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難不成要喊是其他賺錢公司虧欠他?

By Hardy
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By Carol
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By Barb Cronin
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By Noah
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投資這個政府了嗎?當然啦就像你講的結果論,反正
結果的時候還沒到,各執一辭也沒什麼意義就討論到
這吧。

By Victoria
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謝謝各位前來交流意見

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By Xanthe
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優勢是就算違法也能修法變合法。順帶一提,我以為你在講的
是退休金,結果你在講保險。依法勞退就是只吃雇主的6%,自
提者少之又少,大部分都是高所得用來避說、其中還有一堆是
沒有雇提的老闆,而公教新制提繳率15%而且強制受僱者自願
提繳其中35%,然後自己一塊錢都不提的勞工整天靠盃繳一堆
的公教領比較多…噢不對,比較的時候他們根本不會算入勞退
,全部只拿勞保在打

By Sandy
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By Belly
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的

By Hedwig
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預算、標案,獲利的是誰?不好說

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By Dorothy
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By Ula
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公立大學教師基本薪水約略+10%,與我內文訴求相符

By Connor
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By Genevieve
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?

By Catherine
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By Cara
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還是你要我挖更多的預算數字出來每年700億不算什麼?

By George
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By Daniel
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覺非常的理性,4%調薪的消息一出來,在野黨說這是政策
買票(自已google 新聞),當事人以ptt來看也不見得領情
,那麼喊到加10%20%以上意義是什麼?不就給競爭對手口
實炎上?事情的根本是什麼,就是選民覺得軍公教不值得
,分析成這樣,比得上執政的可能性?或期待選民能看懂
那麼多懂了還能認同你? 緣木求魚

By Dorothy
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你的想法大致了解。

By Dorothy
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By Andrew
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當標題。

By Charlotte
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一樣有問題,就代表你的推論有問題

By Queena
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By Poppy
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到後來這邊只剩取暖的功能

By Steve
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By Selena
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所說自提者不多,因為保底等於是該年的銀行兩年定存平

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By Donna
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By Queena
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無感, 你會認為雇主撥的就是額外的。

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By Dora
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.2% (以指定的平均計算方式計算)。

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