Offer請益 - 加班
By Eden
at 2016-07-30T22:36
at 2016-07-30T22:36
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科技版的前輩大家好
小妹日前剛於112畢業
已經在現任公司上工一個多月
沒想到之前投GG的履歷在我於報到後才被看見(?)
或是說才邀我去面試
很幸運地獲得了offer
讓我開始掙扎...
才想說上來問問大家的意見作為參考
公司 GG 二線IC廠
職缺 研發類(但不是IC相關) 類比IC RD
月薪 N N+15
年薪 第二年後百萬up? 月薪*15~16
工時 8:30~據說晚上七八點 目前9-18準時閃
優點 $$$ 穩定/下班後有自己時間/同事不勾心鬥角
缺點 壓力大/重新學習 $$少
當初找工作時目標是準時上下班,一天工時8hr,薪水倒是其次
但在ic業一線大廠好像很難達到
去面試過獲得的資訊也的確如此
因此最後選擇了現職公司
主管面試時說
"不鼓勵員工加班,因為加班也沒加班費拿...
ic design需要腦力,做到晚上都累死了怎麼還想得出東西"
上工一個月至今
觀察得到的結論是
事情其實也蠻多的,可是想準時走不會被說閒話
六點多陸續會有很多人走
但也有部分人留下來
我不知道是事情做不完要加班還是習慣性久留 囧
同事人都很好相處,經驗豐富,願意教
我的team裡面幾乎都是15年以上經驗的前輩
壞處感覺是他們可能不太知道剛畢業的新人程度在哪?
(我覺得類比ic才在學校培養兩三年...對電路的感覺還不夠敏銳)
常常問問題得到的回答都不夠具體
可能以他們的角度就是回答得差不多了
但有很多比較基礎的電路細節我就不知道是不是應該繼續問下去
或是自己多摸摸試試看
而且常常被辦公室同仁問
"妳怎麼會來我們公司?"
"怎麼不去M?"
感覺很看得起我orz
而且總經理更是很明顯對我抱持著深深的期待
主管因此給我的project loading我覺得算重
我的schedule到年底前已經要負責4個ip
感覺之後幾個月我可能也會因此要多留
六點走可能最後會GG...
敝公司沒有報加班,聽說很少人報而且要簽呈到很上面
報補休之後會折現金
這是小妹我進公司一個多月來的觀察
GG的部分是6月初丟的履歷
因為知道GG的ic design好像工時比較正常 但是要有經驗比較好進去
所以一開始就丟其他研發類的職缺
(怕被hr認出offer生變所以沒寫領域...有興趣者站內信問我)
之後履歷投了石沉大海
我就準時去現職公司報到了
沒想到竟然最後有幸面試獲得offer
但此職缺應該壓力很大
面試時主管就有說我看起來很活潑抗壓性應該很好都不會緊張orz
還主動問我怎麼都不問他工時(他自己很想說的感覺XD)
自己說明通常晚上7~8點80%的人就離開了
剩下的就是project比較趕的人
也說事情很多不用怕無聊沒事做
問過認識在裡面的學姐說也沒在報加班
但GG賺的應該是績效分紅?
缺點就是要重新學習
對我來說幾乎算是全新的領域
主管面試時也強調對此職缺算是fundamental的課程我都沒修過
要我趁新人蜜月期時補足
因此可預期進去的壓力會蠻大的
而且GG同期會有很多新人一起學習訓練
擔心如果之後學習表現不如主管預期考績不好之後年薪也跟著GG....
呼~~進入結語
總之
因為GG錢比現職多(第一年應該比現職少)
而且工時又比我所學領域的一線ic廠短
(當初面試幾家幾乎都是至少晚上八點後走...因此我才捨棄百萬年薪)
現職公司感覺接下來就算我可以六點多走
事情做不完也蠻有可能待到七八點的
(但因為是碩班所學,可以預期會比較快上手,也許上手後就不會覺得loading太重?)
(但也有可能度過新人期事情變更多呃...因為同事悄悄跟我說過公司現在很缺人)
所以我動搖了
本人對目前學習領域沒什麼興趣
GG的領域也沒什麼興趣
換領域個人是感覺還好
沒有喜歡或排斥
而且GG會重頭開始訓練教導
就只是擔心學習力不夠好或是表現不如主管預期
考績不好的話年薪其實可能反而比不上現職?
因為我覺得工時長就一定要$$$$$相對應多
而且如果進GG之後想走感覺也找不回本來領域的工作?
但錯過GG好像之後就很難進去
只喜歡收畢業一兩內的新人?
所以說
很想聽聽各位前輩們的建議
拜託大家了
謝謝文長還看到這的各位
--
小妹日前剛於112畢業
已經在現任公司上工一個多月
沒想到之前投GG的履歷在我於報到後才被看見(?)
或是說才邀我去面試
很幸運地獲得了offer
讓我開始掙扎...
才想說上來問問大家的意見作為參考
公司 GG 二線IC廠
職缺 研發類(但不是IC相關) 類比IC RD
月薪 N N+15
年薪 第二年後百萬up? 月薪*15~16
工時 8:30~據說晚上七八點 目前9-18準時閃
優點 $$$ 穩定/下班後有自己時間/同事不勾心鬥角
缺點 壓力大/重新學習 $$少
當初找工作時目標是準時上下班,一天工時8hr,薪水倒是其次
但在ic業一線大廠好像很難達到
去面試過獲得的資訊也的確如此
因此最後選擇了現職公司
主管面試時說
"不鼓勵員工加班,因為加班也沒加班費拿...
ic design需要腦力,做到晚上都累死了怎麼還想得出東西"
上工一個月至今
觀察得到的結論是
事情其實也蠻多的,可是想準時走不會被說閒話
六點多陸續會有很多人走
但也有部分人留下來
我不知道是事情做不完要加班還是習慣性久留 囧
同事人都很好相處,經驗豐富,願意教
我的team裡面幾乎都是15年以上經驗的前輩
壞處感覺是他們可能不太知道剛畢業的新人程度在哪?
(我覺得類比ic才在學校培養兩三年...對電路的感覺還不夠敏銳)
常常問問題得到的回答都不夠具體
可能以他們的角度就是回答得差不多了
但有很多比較基礎的電路細節我就不知道是不是應該繼續問下去
或是自己多摸摸試試看
而且常常被辦公室同仁問
"妳怎麼會來我們公司?"
"怎麼不去M?"
感覺很看得起我orz
而且總經理更是很明顯對我抱持著深深的期待
主管因此給我的project loading我覺得算重
我的schedule到年底前已經要負責4個ip
感覺之後幾個月我可能也會因此要多留
六點走可能最後會GG...
敝公司沒有報加班,聽說很少人報而且要簽呈到很上面
報補休之後會折現金
這是小妹我進公司一個多月來的觀察
GG的部分是6月初丟的履歷
因為知道GG的ic design好像工時比較正常 但是要有經驗比較好進去
所以一開始就丟其他研發類的職缺
(怕被hr認出offer生變所以沒寫領域...有興趣者站內信問我)
之後履歷投了石沉大海
我就準時去現職公司報到了
沒想到竟然最後有幸面試獲得offer
但此職缺應該壓力很大
面試時主管就有說我看起來很活潑抗壓性應該很好都不會緊張orz
還主動問我怎麼都不問他工時(他自己很想說的感覺XD)
自己說明通常晚上7~8點80%的人就離開了
剩下的就是project比較趕的人
也說事情很多不用怕無聊沒事做
問過認識在裡面的學姐說也沒在報加班
但GG賺的應該是績效分紅?
缺點就是要重新學習
對我來說幾乎算是全新的領域
主管面試時也強調對此職缺算是fundamental的課程我都沒修過
要我趁新人蜜月期時補足
因此可預期進去的壓力會蠻大的
而且GG同期會有很多新人一起學習訓練
擔心如果之後學習表現不如主管預期考績不好之後年薪也跟著GG....
呼~~進入結語
總之
因為GG錢比現職多(第一年應該比現職少)
而且工時又比我所學領域的一線ic廠短
(當初面試幾家幾乎都是至少晚上八點後走...因此我才捨棄百萬年薪)
現職公司感覺接下來就算我可以六點多走
事情做不完也蠻有可能待到七八點的
(但因為是碩班所學,可以預期會比較快上手,也許上手後就不會覺得loading太重?)
(但也有可能度過新人期事情變更多呃...因為同事悄悄跟我說過公司現在很缺人)
所以我動搖了
本人對目前學習領域沒什麼興趣
GG的領域也沒什麼興趣
換領域個人是感覺還好
沒有喜歡或排斥
而且GG會重頭開始訓練教導
就只是擔心學習力不夠好或是表現不如主管預期
考績不好的話年薪其實可能反而比不上現職?
因為我覺得工時長就一定要$$$$$相對應多
而且如果進GG之後想走感覺也找不回本來領域的工作?
但錯過GG好像之後就很難進去
只喜歡收畢業一兩內的新人?
所以說
很想聽聽各位前輩們的建議
拜託大家了
謝謝文長還看到這的各位
--
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