Re: [新聞] 死諫! 考績甲 年終僅半 銀行業務尋短亡 - 金融業討論

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作者: qmqmqm () 看板: Gossiping
標題: Re: [新聞] 死諫! 考績甲 年終僅半 銀行業務尋短亡
時間: Mon Jan 31 11:14:20 2011
這篇新聞實在道出了很多現在業界的病態風氣
首先,此人不是AO(或稱RM),能在這位子上稱近2x年的
即非一般小卒
再來,此人正值壯年,照理說絕對是戰力內
以及,能在這種壓力那麼大的位子上撐那麼久的,亦非凡人也
最後,他的確做出了破表的業績,還有甲等的考績
公司給他的是什麼??
去死
我來享一個真實故事,我家從上一代就在金融業混,我老媽是前某大銀行的主管之一
當時還是勞退舊制的情況下,所以員工到可退休年齡時,真的是會有一筆可觀的退休金
然而,當時金融業就開始歪風吹起
先是裁老人風起,利用調職,或是丟業務給你,要你扛業績的方式
讓你明明還在位子上,卻做的生不如死
再來,開始慢慢引進"責任制"這種東西,
以前加班費可以報,大家一個月本薪+加班費收入,造就很多台灣中產階級
但當時一陣企業歪風吹起,中產階級開始慢慢崩壞
先知如我娘,等同一班同事們,就先馬上搶退休,能領多少算多少
於是就在壯年退休 (未滿60) 的人很多
因為這種4,50歲的人,都是在巔峰戰力,薪資也非常高,公司當然不想付你薪水
於是公司開始巧立各種名目,成立法務大軍,去砍,去壓你薪水
事後開始長達了大概好幾年的退休金戰爭
退休員工以我娘她們的大主管為首,組織工會,向公司討退休金
當然不可能全額拿回
至少原本100元能拿回70元就算不錯
其他沒即時退休的,很多晚節不保,被丟到偏僻小小分行,叫你幹小業務工作之類
(沒錯,這種方式很常見),....等等很多方式可以逼到你自己想走
能夠自然退休的(65)有看過,我媽他們上面的高層,再加上關係良好
有65退的,退以後都對我媽這批壯年部屬超好(可能在職時幹太多壞事了)
推股票,介紹房子,請吃飯,不時聚會(想彌補在職時的罪惡感吧 XD)
但是講到公司的事都一律裝死,充滿心虛
至於其它的,被轉到新制
要不就是轉業務員,把自己人脈消耗至盡,最後掰掰
或是當起無薪保險業務,看能做多少算多少買菜錢
在接下來幾年,就是你我熟悉的金控控來控去的世代了
情況會如何,連上一輩做那麼久,都沒幾個能安然退休的,
人家最後會怎麼對你? 自己想看看吧
可能是因為我們年輕,感覺還沒那麼強烈
你試著想看看那個年代競爭下來的人
念書考進窄門大學,又在社會上擠進一道又一道窄門
最後拼了20,30年,再被桶一刀的感覺
何況是在福利已經大幅縮減,企業歪風盛行的今日??
看到這種新聞,我真的是一點都不意外
而且這表市台面下,委曲吞下去的更多而已
今天已經不是能力好不好,忠誠度(資深)高不高的問題了
今天是你能力好,薪水高,業績佳,資深,也是照砍,而且更想砍
最好就是替你賣命到死然後不拿錢,勞資雙方失衡至此,已非小百姓個人努力可及
然而此現象也非一朝一夕,至今更是嚴重,再看看現在當局所做所言
媒資兩方聯合洗腦,連勞方自己都攻擊打壓勞方
再算算搞這些事致使將來 社會年輕人要背的債
無怪人家會說,我們社會最嚴重的問題,就是 年輕人沒有希望
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作者: qmqmqm () 看板: Gossiping
標題: Re: [新聞] 死諫! 考績甲 年終僅半 銀行業務尋短亡
時間: Mon Jan 31 11:14:20 2011
這篇新聞實在道出了很多現在業界的病態風氣
首先,此人不是AO(或稱RM),能在這位子上稱近2x年的
即非一般小卒
再來,此人正值壯年,照理說絕對是戰力內
以及,能在這種壓力那麼大的位子上撐那麼久的,亦非凡人也
最後,他的確做出了破表的業績,還有甲等的考績
公司給他的是什麼??
去死
我來享一個真實故事,我家從上一代就在金融業混,我老媽是前某大銀行的主管之一
當時還是勞退舊制的情況下,所以員工到可退休年齡時,真的是會有一筆可觀的退休金
然而,當時金融業就開始歪風吹起
先是裁老人風起,利用調職,或是丟業務給你,要你扛業績的方式
讓你明明還在位子上,卻做的生不如死
再來,開始慢慢引進"責任制"這種東西,
以前加班費可以報,大家一個月本薪+加班費收入,造就很多台灣中產階級
但當時一陣企業歪風吹起,中產階級開始慢慢崩壞
先知如我娘,等同一班同事們,就先馬上搶退休,能領多少算多少
於是就在壯年退休 (未滿60) 的人很多
因為這種4,50歲的人,都是在巔峰戰力,薪資也非常高,公司當然不想付你薪水
於是公司開始巧立各種名目,成立法務大軍,去砍,去壓你薪水
事後開始長達了大概好幾年的退休金戰爭
退休員工以我娘她們的大主管為首,組織工會,向公司討退休金
當然不可能全額拿回
至少原本100元能拿回70元就算不錯
其他沒即時退休的,很多晚節不保,被丟到偏僻小小分行,叫你幹小業務工作之類
(沒錯,這種方式很常見),....等等很多方式可以逼到你自己想走
能夠自然退休的(65)有看過,我媽他們上面的高層,再加上關係良好
有65退的,退以後都對我媽這批壯年部屬超好(可能在職時幹太多壞事了)
推股票,介紹房子,請吃飯,不時聚會(想彌補在職時的罪惡感吧 XD)
但是講到公司的事都一律裝死,充滿心虛
至於其它的,被轉到新制
要不就是轉業務員,把自己人脈消耗至盡,最後掰掰
或是當起無薪保險業務,看能做多少算多少買菜錢
在接下來幾年,就是你我熟悉的金控控來控去的世代了
情況會如何,連上一輩做那麼久,都沒幾個能安然退休的,
人家最後會怎麼對你? 自己想看看吧
可能是因為我們年輕,感覺還沒那麼強烈
你試著想看看那個年代競爭下來的人
念書考進窄門大學,又在社會上擠進一道又一道窄門
最後拼了20,30年,再被桶一刀的感覺
何況是在福利已經大幅縮減,企業歪風盛行的今日??
看到這種新聞,我真的是一點都不意外
而且這表市台面下,委曲吞下去的更多而已
今天已經不是能力好不好,忠誠度(資深)高不高的問題了
今天是你能力好,薪水高,業績佳,資深,也是照砍,而且更想砍
最好就是替你賣命到死然後不拿錢,勞資雙方失衡至此,已非小百姓個人努力可及
然而此現象也非一朝一夕,至今更是嚴重,再看看現在當局所做所言
媒資兩方聯合洗腦,連勞方自己都攻擊打壓勞方
再算算搞這些事致使將來 社會年輕人要背的債
無怪人家會說,我們社會最嚴重的問題,就是 年輕人沒有希望
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