中國工作現況與心得 - 薪水
By Daph Bay
at 2019-03-10T00:00
at 2019-03-10T00:00
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※ 引述《DrTech (竹科管理處網軍研發人員)》之銘言:
: 首先,這篇文章不是勸人去中國工作,別在推文罵人舔共了。
: 去中國工作的人,不代表他愛中國,也不代表他不愛台灣。
: 同樣的去美國工作,也不該有人說他不愛台灣,舔美。
: 去日本工作,也不該說他是日本鬼,去菲律賓工作,也不該說他是賣身分。
: 多了解各國現況,以及評估你自己是否有更豐富的人生,是這篇文章的重點。
: 由於每個人的狀況不同,我適合去中國,不代表你適合去。
: 我朋友適合去美國,不代表我也適合去。
其實我覺得首篇的原po應該是鼓勵大家不要怕,去中國闖闖,
薪水也比較高,不用被台灣慣老闆或者是走不出去的產業規模限制住
網路上很多似是而非的仇中言論,很多時候跟現實差異過大,的確需要澄清
如果問我是不是該去中國闖闖,我也是贊成
但我也似乎發現原po對於很多問題不以為意
想奉勸原po,在中國工作還是處處小心,WIC有一句老話,祝你順利賺錢平安登出
跟當兵一樣,平安退伍最重要
到阿富汗打仗,服役過後賺一大筆退役金很好很英勇,但是絕對要清楚風險再去
原po的說法像是:"去阿富汗也是換個地方上網吃飯睡覺而已,根本不會有生命危險,
你看我在那邊還不是好好的"
萬一有人真的聽了,派到那邊,結果根本是去前線防止汽車炸彈,這樣好嗎?
光言論自由這一塊,你可能一段時間不在台灣,
不知道中國一直試圖影響全球的言論自由
當然他不能影響美國人,但是只要你人會在中國,就要小心,低調
境外的言論,一樣可以整你,只是你太小咖整你浪費力氣
等到你在中國有點成就了,隨便一張截圖就可以讓你丟工作
(不信嗎?原po這篇原文有心人就足夠可以整你了)
輕則公安泡咖啡,重則拘留幾天嚇死你
我們子瑜根本就不在中國工作也能被整,你就知道了
我們背後不是美國老北撐腰,就要小心點
之前也有例子,台灣人被帶到中國拘留,台灣政府態度如何
這我就不要再提了
要強調的是,原po以及每個人對於中國的缺點接受度完全不同
像原po說他認識很多好的中國醫生,但像我個人是從來不看中國醫生
我只看國際醫院或診所,門診800人民幣掛號費起跳
用藥或者是疫苗全部都是境外提供,因為中國的利益糾葛下犧牲的藥品疫苗安全非常可怕
只要看看當地有一點錢的人(沒錢的人常常是沒得選擇)怎麼生活就知道了
我上海的同事,連路邊餐廳都不太吃,一餐最低80人民幣
生活用品除了衛生紙以外,全部歐洲日本進口
水都是全戶過濾,因為金山區污染非常嚴重
(廣東的朋友也是,因為珠江污染也是非常可怕)
但濾水器也怕有問題,都是歐洲品牌
所以要過個有尊嚴的生活,陽光空氣水食物都要達到要求
付出的成本是十分巨大的
我一個中國同事聽說非洲豬瘟,發現朋友圈文章越來越少
馬上告訴全家"不吃不買豬肉"
我說,唉呀好像也不用這樣防範,因為豬瘟不會傳人,吃到沒關係
只是說不要帶出境啦
他說,你不懂,
政府開始刪帖,表示這件事情一定鬧得很大,
一開始還有聽說有些省在邊界審查,後面沒新聞宣傳了,表示控制不住了
豬瘟是不會傳人,但是豬會提早病死,所以有多大冰箱就冰多少死豬
中國政府當然不會查,這不符合政策主旋律,記者想報導也會被喝茶
以中國商人個性,外面餐廳大概都會淪陷
菜吃有機的,肉吃溫體牛,結果豬吃病死豬這樣可以嗎?
連肯德基麥當勞都有豬肉是冰過期發霉的,沒有記者報導,
切除黴菌剩下的還是會有毒的
你還不怕嗎?
這才是去中國工作真正的要有的態度
認識所有風險,控制所有風險,每次地雷爆發的時候你才會傷得最少
這種態度無論在中國工作還是生活都很有用
很多你看到的沒問題的東西,中國政府常常一個政策就莫名轉變了
宮鬥劇突然被認為對人民有害?韓國影劇突然被禁止?
一個很好的房東,我介紹給同事,房東突然要賣房子就趕人還不退押金
害我對那個同事非常不好意思
租屋糾紛被搶被騙,警察公安不會幫忙你,大多只能自認倒霉
一個同事追到漂亮溫柔的廣東妞,一個同事被上海女人詐騙幾萬元幸好止血
繳稅拿租屋發票,被街道政府公務員臭臉刁難
到銀行把薪水匯款出境,一條一條檢查完稅證明,看不懂英文就不幫你蓋章
來回好幾次才辦成
這都是要碰到才知道的
絕對不要說"唉呀那都是那些人才有的事情,好好的誰會有問題?"
才能在中國做的長久
我之前登出中國,離開中國的時候年收入破人民幣一百萬
那年我32歲,以一個非半導體非軟體非電類的科技業邊緣人來說
已經是前所未有的機會,非常吸引人
但有一天在加州出差,到了海邊,發現天空很藍,空氣很好,水很乾淨
出差前一天我剛在京東下單收到網路評價最高的空氣濾淨機
我突然問我自己,我到底是在追求什麼
我就投履歷換工作回台灣了
中國科技業薪資真的是不錯
很適合自己去墊高薪水,但真的不要被薪水迷惑,
祝大家全身而退順利登出,想要落地生根的人也能一路順風
--
: 首先,這篇文章不是勸人去中國工作,別在推文罵人舔共了。
: 去中國工作的人,不代表他愛中國,也不代表他不愛台灣。
: 同樣的去美國工作,也不該有人說他不愛台灣,舔美。
: 去日本工作,也不該說他是日本鬼,去菲律賓工作,也不該說他是賣身分。
: 多了解各國現況,以及評估你自己是否有更豐富的人生,是這篇文章的重點。
: 由於每個人的狀況不同,我適合去中國,不代表你適合去。
: 我朋友適合去美國,不代表我也適合去。
其實我覺得首篇的原po應該是鼓勵大家不要怕,去中國闖闖,
薪水也比較高,不用被台灣慣老闆或者是走不出去的產業規模限制住
網路上很多似是而非的仇中言論,很多時候跟現實差異過大,的確需要澄清
如果問我是不是該去中國闖闖,我也是贊成
但我也似乎發現原po對於很多問題不以為意
想奉勸原po,在中國工作還是處處小心,WIC有一句老話,祝你順利賺錢平安登出
跟當兵一樣,平安退伍最重要
到阿富汗打仗,服役過後賺一大筆退役金很好很英勇,但是絕對要清楚風險再去
原po的說法像是:"去阿富汗也是換個地方上網吃飯睡覺而已,根本不會有生命危險,
你看我在那邊還不是好好的"
萬一有人真的聽了,派到那邊,結果根本是去前線防止汽車炸彈,這樣好嗎?
光言論自由這一塊,你可能一段時間不在台灣,
不知道中國一直試圖影響全球的言論自由
當然他不能影響美國人,但是只要你人會在中國,就要小心,低調
境外的言論,一樣可以整你,只是你太小咖整你浪費力氣
等到你在中國有點成就了,隨便一張截圖就可以讓你丟工作
(不信嗎?原po這篇原文有心人就足夠可以整你了)
輕則公安泡咖啡,重則拘留幾天嚇死你
我們子瑜根本就不在中國工作也能被整,你就知道了
我們背後不是美國老北撐腰,就要小心點
之前也有例子,台灣人被帶到中國拘留,台灣政府態度如何
這我就不要再提了
要強調的是,原po以及每個人對於中國的缺點接受度完全不同
像原po說他認識很多好的中國醫生,但像我個人是從來不看中國醫生
我只看國際醫院或診所,門診800人民幣掛號費起跳
用藥或者是疫苗全部都是境外提供,因為中國的利益糾葛下犧牲的藥品疫苗安全非常可怕
只要看看當地有一點錢的人(沒錢的人常常是沒得選擇)怎麼生活就知道了
我上海的同事,連路邊餐廳都不太吃,一餐最低80人民幣
生活用品除了衛生紙以外,全部歐洲日本進口
水都是全戶過濾,因為金山區污染非常嚴重
(廣東的朋友也是,因為珠江污染也是非常可怕)
但濾水器也怕有問題,都是歐洲品牌
所以要過個有尊嚴的生活,陽光空氣水食物都要達到要求
付出的成本是十分巨大的
我一個中國同事聽說非洲豬瘟,發現朋友圈文章越來越少
馬上告訴全家"不吃不買豬肉"
我說,唉呀好像也不用這樣防範,因為豬瘟不會傳人,吃到沒關係
只是說不要帶出境啦
他說,你不懂,
政府開始刪帖,表示這件事情一定鬧得很大,
一開始還有聽說有些省在邊界審查,後面沒新聞宣傳了,表示控制不住了
豬瘟是不會傳人,但是豬會提早病死,所以有多大冰箱就冰多少死豬
中國政府當然不會查,這不符合政策主旋律,記者想報導也會被喝茶
以中國商人個性,外面餐廳大概都會淪陷
菜吃有機的,肉吃溫體牛,結果豬吃病死豬這樣可以嗎?
連肯德基麥當勞都有豬肉是冰過期發霉的,沒有記者報導,
切除黴菌剩下的還是會有毒的
你還不怕嗎?
這才是去中國工作真正的要有的態度
認識所有風險,控制所有風險,每次地雷爆發的時候你才會傷得最少
這種態度無論在中國工作還是生活都很有用
很多你看到的沒問題的東西,中國政府常常一個政策就莫名轉變了
宮鬥劇突然被認為對人民有害?韓國影劇突然被禁止?
一個很好的房東,我介紹給同事,房東突然要賣房子就趕人還不退押金
害我對那個同事非常不好意思
租屋糾紛被搶被騙,警察公安不會幫忙你,大多只能自認倒霉
一個同事追到漂亮溫柔的廣東妞,一個同事被上海女人詐騙幾萬元幸好止血
繳稅拿租屋發票,被街道政府公務員臭臉刁難
到銀行把薪水匯款出境,一條一條檢查完稅證明,看不懂英文就不幫你蓋章
來回好幾次才辦成
這都是要碰到才知道的
絕對不要說"唉呀那都是那些人才有的事情,好好的誰會有問題?"
才能在中國做的長久
我之前登出中國,離開中國的時候年收入破人民幣一百萬
那年我32歲,以一個非半導體非軟體非電類的科技業邊緣人來說
已經是前所未有的機會,非常吸引人
但有一天在加州出差,到了海邊,發現天空很藍,空氣很好,水很乾淨
出差前一天我剛在京東下單收到網路評價最高的空氣濾淨機
我突然問我自己,我到底是在追求什麼
我就投履歷換工作回台灣了
中國科技業薪資真的是不錯
很適合自己去墊高薪水,但真的不要被薪水迷惑,
祝大家全身而退順利登出,想要落地生根的人也能一路順風
--
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