中國的晶片設計實力到底如何呢? - 工程師
By Ethan
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你說的正確,台灣的mix-signal (analog/RF)累積的根還有人才對中國大陸來說,大陸短
期內難以望其項背。而這部分隨著越來越高頻的RFFE還有SERDES規格,將會拉大我們跟中
國的差距。但是中國大陸有資金可以加速發展,台灣必須要非常謹慎。否則到時候才會發
現
“打倒台灣企業的都是台灣人”
※ 引述《quartics (Smart is the new Sexy)》之銘言:
: 中國一大半IC設計公司基本上都是各地政府/國家養,
: 因為市場大,加上許多特規,國家經費支持, 賺不賺錢不是最重要,
: 某國企養了一大票IC設計RD 三四年,連一顆IC都沒tapeout 還是繼續養,
: 中興也是國企,RD人員素質也不行, project 執行力也差,
: 中國除了海思,其他都沒有競爭力, 這裡說的競爭力不只是指技術上還有市場上
: 此外海思也沒有大家說的那麼有競爭力, 如果海思單獨拿IC出來賣,不見得會賣的贏Q以
及
: 相較於數位電路,中國的類比設計更弱,
: 海思在台灣雇了一大票員工,很大比例都是在做mix-signal,
: 還有中國絕大多數的IC設計公司都是買IP,海思也不例外,這也沒甚麼錯,
: 只是買了IP還是做得亂七八糟就怨不得人..
: ※ 引述《Reventon (Reventon)》之銘言:
: : https://disp.cc/b/163-azxN
: : 這是最近在FB一直轉載的一篇熱門文章
: : 用來佐證在美國制裁中興之後中國遇到的困境
: : 文章裡用的都是中國用語,應該是對岸的文章
: : 比較好奇的是文章裡面講的跟我近幾年接受到的訊息不太一樣
: : 比如文章說中國無法設計製造自己的晶片,頂多逆向一些低階的控制晶片
: : 但就我所知海思設計的麒麟ARM CPU已經應用在華為的多款手機上
: : 而文章中又提到台灣製造的晶片是垃圾等級
: : 但台積電已可以代工蘋果的晶片,製成甚至已追上intel
: : 感覺這篇文章說的應該是十年前的事情,而現在已經風水輪流轉了?
: : 有沒有熟悉這個產業的板友可以解答我的疑惑呢?
--
期內難以望其項背。而這部分隨著越來越高頻的RFFE還有SERDES規格,將會拉大我們跟中
國的差距。但是中國大陸有資金可以加速發展,台灣必須要非常謹慎。否則到時候才會發
現
“打倒台灣企業的都是台灣人”
※ 引述《quartics (Smart is the new Sexy)》之銘言:
: 中國一大半IC設計公司基本上都是各地政府/國家養,
: 因為市場大,加上許多特規,國家經費支持, 賺不賺錢不是最重要,
: 某國企養了一大票IC設計RD 三四年,連一顆IC都沒tapeout 還是繼續養,
: 中興也是國企,RD人員素質也不行, project 執行力也差,
: 中國除了海思,其他都沒有競爭力, 這裡說的競爭力不只是指技術上還有市場上
: 此外海思也沒有大家說的那麼有競爭力, 如果海思單獨拿IC出來賣,不見得會賣的贏Q以
及
: 相較於數位電路,中國的類比設計更弱,
: 海思在台灣雇了一大票員工,很大比例都是在做mix-signal,
: 還有中國絕大多數的IC設計公司都是買IP,海思也不例外,這也沒甚麼錯,
: 只是買了IP還是做得亂七八糟就怨不得人..
: ※ 引述《Reventon (Reventon)》之銘言:
: : https://disp.cc/b/163-azxN
: : 這是最近在FB一直轉載的一篇熱門文章
: : 用來佐證在美國制裁中興之後中國遇到的困境
: : 文章裡用的都是中國用語,應該是對岸的文章
: : 比較好奇的是文章裡面講的跟我近幾年接受到的訊息不太一樣
: : 比如文章說中國無法設計製造自己的晶片,頂多逆向一些低階的控制晶片
: : 但就我所知海思設計的麒麟ARM CPU已經應用在華為的多款手機上
: : 而文章中又提到台灣製造的晶片是垃圾等級
: : 但台積電已可以代工蘋果的晶片,製成甚至已追上intel
: : 感覺這篇文章說的應該是十年前的事情,而現在已經風水輪流轉了?
: : 有沒有熟悉這個產業的板友可以解答我的疑惑呢?
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