人力銀行民調亂象肆虐 惡整上班族薪資 - 求職
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作者: ihcmm (回家的路) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [新聞]人力銀行民調亂象肆虐 惡整上班族薪資
時間: Tue Jul 24 19:36:01 2012
原文出處:
http://tw.naipo.com/Portals/1/web_tw/Knowledge_Center/Editorial/publish-28.htm
姜清凰╱北美智權報 編輯部
勞工找工作透過人力銀行是現在求職的主流,從民國九十年開始百家爭鳴,
如主流的104、1111、myjob、9999等,到至今也有104、1111、yes123、518
以及勞委會所屬的ejob等,因為人力銀行的過度氾濫與競爭,
造成許多人力銀行爭相透過各種聳動、奇怪議題來搏媒體版面,
同時在新聞上刻意討好資方、唱衰勞工薪資。這種畸形發展情況多年下來,
使人力銀行雖然不具有民調的專業性、甚至扭曲或亂做民調,
但它們卻長期以民調的形式來唱衰勞工的薪資、福利,藉以引起社會矚目、
達到品牌曝光宣傳、以及討好企業主的效果。
十數年下來,許多不實、不精準的調查數據與新
聞宣傳,長期誤導、並且「積非成是」的影響了企業主管們的薪資資訊,
成為害死你我薪資的元凶之一,並且年復一年、持續的惡整全台灣的上班族。
台灣早期的人力銀行相當多,如宏碁大觀園、千里馬等。
後來在1111、104、myjob、9999等人力銀行陸續加入、點燃新聞戰火後,
自民國90年起人力銀行間的新聞競賽、搞民調變成常態。
就連新聞界,原本人力銀行的記者屬科技網路線,但因為人力銀行發出的新聞太多,
而且還涵蓋立法院、財經、科技、社會等領域,所以有媒體還產生出所謂的
「人力銀行線」,專跑人力銀行來處理這些人力銀行不斷發出的新聞。
當時許多記者甚至只要逢重大議題、重要節日,就會找人力銀行的公關來供稿,
滿足對所屬媒體交稿的需求。這種情況在幾年前由自由時報關係企業的yes123、
電視廣告相當多的518人力銀行加入戰局後更為激烈。
許多人力銀行業者為了應對媒體的公關就相當重要,不但要滿足記者的專訪與創作,
還需要常常創造新的主題來滿足媒體的需要。但勞資議題畢竟有限,
於是乎把新聞當製造業也變成人力銀行公關部門的工作。
比如某家人力銀行曾經創造出「將近5%大學女學生以援交當打工」,
做為新聞宣傳素材,汙名化大學生;這樣的新聞公關模式、十數年下來,
成為各人力銀行樂此不疲的行銷手法。只要上網以人力銀行做為關鍵字,
就可以查到無數、橫跨民國90年迄今的各種光怪陸離的新聞。
只是人力銀行的新聞如果只是為了宣傳,商業行為本身無可厚非。
然而問題在人力銀行的調查多屬網路問卷,本來就不具備統計學上抽樣的科學基礎,
連隨機抽樣都稱不上。每次調查頂多回收一千多份,只要去注意每一次人力銀行所發出
的問卷調查,就可以發現人力銀行對上班族的調查根本不敢公布「回收率」。因為每次
發出十數萬、或數十萬份的問卷,每次回收卻都只有一、兩千份,這種回收率如果公布
出來,這種1~2%的回收率,根本不具備統計學上的參考價值,更不用談甚麼大數法則的
準確性。
而對多數勞工來說,實質影響最大的莫過於人力銀行所公布的薪資調查。這是因為許多
企業為了維持公司在徵才時的薪資優勢,或者了解公司的薪資水平,需要取得薪資的平
均行情做為參考。要取得薪資報告,通常是透過極少數外商人力資源管理公司或是人力
銀行。而來自人力銀行的調查報告,因為一般公司HR通常不願意回答薪資問題,特別是
有制度與薪資較高的大企業,HR基於保密的立場更不可能回答,因此回答問題的通常以
薪資偏低的中小型企業居多,但回答的人數也不多。根據經濟部的資料,台灣的企業家
數高達125.5萬家,但人力銀行的薪資調查能擁有的樣本資料ꨊ
,而且幾乎都是薪資偏低的中小企業薪資水平,占整體企業比重連1%的比例都沒有,
這個數字比同性戀占人口的比例還要低,在統計上根本沒有參考的價值。然而這樣的調
查報告卻被人力銀行拿來大肆渲染與行銷推廣,企業的HR在不經思考其信度與效度下,
長期下來都拿這樣的調查報告來回報公司、訂定薪資政策,這樣的情況經年累月的誤導
了一般企業的薪資政策,更因為時間累積、讓一年的錯誤成為長期的慣例,長期下來更
成為打壓勞工薪資的元凶之一。
此外,許多人力銀行為了發表炒作聳動的議題,基於人力銀行的立場,最常拿來操作與
玩弄的就是勞工「薪資」與「失業」的主題。如果只是薪資成長,沒有新聞性;如果只
是就業率提高,吸引不了媒體注意;只有薪資衰退、裁員、失業率暴增這些主題是吸引
媒體的焦點;因此人力銀行不斷地往這些主題操作,「畢業生七成失業」、「薪資大幅衰
退」、「八成企業凍結薪資與人事」等等主題便不斷占據媒體版面,企業主也樂得配合
順勢操作,每年都告訴全體員工要共體時艱,公司賺錢的時候薪資微調或不調整,公司
不賺錢的時候就是減薪,公司賠錢的時候乾脆就無薪假跟裁
員了。總之員工要調整薪資,在人力銀行不斷地協助放話題恐嚇之下,那幾乎是一件不
可能的任務。景氣好的時候想跳槽,人力銀行威脅你這樣會不受企業歡迎;景氣不好的
時候,某人力銀行老董甚至還告訴新鮮人,不拿薪水去企業當義工學習也沒關係。古時
候就連當有錢人的家奴也都還有飯吃、有微薄的工資,台灣曾幾何時景氣差到要人力銀
行來告訴民眾去幫企業財團當沒錢的義工,還得吃自己、住自己、交通油錢自己包?
雖然勞工薪資不振的責任不全是因為人力銀行,然而人力銀行長期的誤導與渲染,也要負
起相當的責任。
但問題是,面對這許多調查內容有問題的人力銀行,按理媒體應該為專業進行把關的,
為什麼反而甘願被人力銀行拿來當作新聞宣傳的工具呢?因為現在的媒體只對話題聳動
感興趣,專業性跟正確性已經不是媒體把關的重點,只要有話題、媒體就愛報;二來對
記者來說,可以等著服務態度良好的人力銀行公關來服務、為你供稿,缺稿的時候可以
把人力銀行的公關當作供稿機、請他們供稿充版面,特別是連假或是春節期間,還可以
幫記者準備備稿;逢年過節還有禮品可收,某大媒體的記者還可以指定禮品、要求人力
銀行送甚麼月餅、哪家飯店的粽子。而一家知名人力銀行的公
關主管,與媒體關係好到可以與這些媒體主管、談話性節目的媒體人一起去上酒店慶生
、把酒言歡、甚至還招待一同出國,有些人力銀行的公關部門多達十數人,開一間公關
公司綽綽有餘。
在這種扭曲的情形下,台灣本來就弱勢的勞工,一方面要依靠人力銀行找工作,一方面
卻又得飽受人力銀行資訊上的欺凌,更諷刺的是,人力銀行一方面拿你的履歷表當做賣
給企業的產品,一方面卻也不斷地在新聞與行銷資訊上打壓你的薪資與福利,間接的造
成你的薪水「凍結」,一方面還厚臉皮的扮演你的導師、你的神,以求職專家的角色自
居,告訴你如何找工作、如何跟老闆相處、如何不被開除,如何才能爭取加薪
,如何才在職場生存。但值得玩味的是,其實許多人力銀行所謂的專家,也不過就是一
般的職場勞工,這些所謂的求職專家,最後也是被所屬人力銀行一腳踢
開,此時,人力銀行所謂職場專家的角色,不過是一場笑話與迷思,勞工不靠自己的
專業與態度,卻去迷信靠打壓勞工大賺其財的人力銀行專家的話,就如同請鬼拿藥單一
樣,看著自己的薪資越來越虛弱而已。人力銀行對勞工市場的新聞惡戰,就如同許多炒
手在股票市場中亂放話一般,後者影響金融市場秩序,前者也破壞勞工薪資市場秩序,
如果出面約投顧是金管會的責任,那麼政府是不是也應該好好約束一下這些人力銀行,
管管人力銀行亂象呢?
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心得: 前陣子有人提倡畢業生無薪到企業當義工,實在讓我印象非常深刻
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作者: ihcmm (回家的路) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [新聞]人力銀行民調亂象肆虐 惡整上班族薪資
時間: Tue Jul 24 19:36:01 2012
原文出處:
http://tw.naipo.com/Portals/1/web_tw/Knowledge_Center/Editorial/publish-28.htm
姜清凰╱北美智權報 編輯部
勞工找工作透過人力銀行是現在求職的主流,從民國九十年開始百家爭鳴,
如主流的104、1111、myjob、9999等,到至今也有104、1111、yes123、518
以及勞委會所屬的ejob等,因為人力銀行的過度氾濫與競爭,
造成許多人力銀行爭相透過各種聳動、奇怪議題來搏媒體版面,
同時在新聞上刻意討好資方、唱衰勞工薪資。這種畸形發展情況多年下來,
使人力銀行雖然不具有民調的專業性、甚至扭曲或亂做民調,
但它們卻長期以民調的形式來唱衰勞工的薪資、福利,藉以引起社會矚目、
達到品牌曝光宣傳、以及討好企業主的效果。
十數年下來,許多不實、不精準的調查數據與新
聞宣傳,長期誤導、並且「積非成是」的影響了企業主管們的薪資資訊,
成為害死你我薪資的元凶之一,並且年復一年、持續的惡整全台灣的上班族。
台灣早期的人力銀行相當多,如宏碁大觀園、千里馬等。
後來在1111、104、myjob、9999等人力銀行陸續加入、點燃新聞戰火後,
自民國90年起人力銀行間的新聞競賽、搞民調變成常態。
就連新聞界,原本人力銀行的記者屬科技網路線,但因為人力銀行發出的新聞太多,
而且還涵蓋立法院、財經、科技、社會等領域,所以有媒體還產生出所謂的
「人力銀行線」,專跑人力銀行來處理這些人力銀行不斷發出的新聞。
當時許多記者甚至只要逢重大議題、重要節日,就會找人力銀行的公關來供稿,
滿足對所屬媒體交稿的需求。這種情況在幾年前由自由時報關係企業的yes123、
電視廣告相當多的518人力銀行加入戰局後更為激烈。
許多人力銀行業者為了應對媒體的公關就相當重要,不但要滿足記者的專訪與創作,
還需要常常創造新的主題來滿足媒體的需要。但勞資議題畢竟有限,
於是乎把新聞當製造業也變成人力銀行公關部門的工作。
比如某家人力銀行曾經創造出「將近5%大學女學生以援交當打工」,
做為新聞宣傳素材,汙名化大學生;這樣的新聞公關模式、十數年下來,
成為各人力銀行樂此不疲的行銷手法。只要上網以人力銀行做為關鍵字,
就可以查到無數、橫跨民國90年迄今的各種光怪陸離的新聞。
只是人力銀行的新聞如果只是為了宣傳,商業行為本身無可厚非。
然而問題在人力銀行的調查多屬網路問卷,本來就不具備統計學上抽樣的科學基礎,
連隨機抽樣都稱不上。每次調查頂多回收一千多份,只要去注意每一次人力銀行所發出
的問卷調查,就可以發現人力銀行對上班族的調查根本不敢公布「回收率」。因為每次
發出十數萬、或數十萬份的問卷,每次回收卻都只有一、兩千份,這種回收率如果公布
出來,這種1~2%的回收率,根本不具備統計學上的參考價值,更不用談甚麼大數法則的
準確性。
而對多數勞工來說,實質影響最大的莫過於人力銀行所公布的薪資調查。這是因為許多
企業為了維持公司在徵才時的薪資優勢,或者了解公司的薪資水平,需要取得薪資的平
均行情做為參考。要取得薪資報告,通常是透過極少數外商人力資源管理公司或是人力
銀行。而來自人力銀行的調查報告,因為一般公司HR通常不願意回答薪資問題,特別是
有制度與薪資較高的大企業,HR基於保密的立場更不可能回答,因此回答問題的通常以
薪資偏低的中小型企業居多,但回答的人數也不多。根據經濟部的資料,台灣的企業家
數高達125.5萬家,但人力銀行的薪資調查能擁有的樣本資料ꨊ
,而且幾乎都是薪資偏低的中小企業薪資水平,占整體企業比重連1%的比例都沒有,
這個數字比同性戀占人口的比例還要低,在統計上根本沒有參考的價值。然而這樣的調
查報告卻被人力銀行拿來大肆渲染與行銷推廣,企業的HR在不經思考其信度與效度下,
長期下來都拿這樣的調查報告來回報公司、訂定薪資政策,這樣的情況經年累月的誤導
了一般企業的薪資政策,更因為時間累積、讓一年的錯誤成為長期的慣例,長期下來更
成為打壓勞工薪資的元凶之一。
此外,許多人力銀行為了發表炒作聳動的議題,基於人力銀行的立場,最常拿來操作與
玩弄的就是勞工「薪資」與「失業」的主題。如果只是薪資成長,沒有新聞性;如果只
是就業率提高,吸引不了媒體注意;只有薪資衰退、裁員、失業率暴增這些主題是吸引
媒體的焦點;因此人力銀行不斷地往這些主題操作,「畢業生七成失業」、「薪資大幅衰
退」、「八成企業凍結薪資與人事」等等主題便不斷占據媒體版面,企業主也樂得配合
順勢操作,每年都告訴全體員工要共體時艱,公司賺錢的時候薪資微調或不調整,公司
不賺錢的時候就是減薪,公司賠錢的時候乾脆就無薪假跟裁
員了。總之員工要調整薪資,在人力銀行不斷地協助放話題恐嚇之下,那幾乎是一件不
可能的任務。景氣好的時候想跳槽,人力銀行威脅你這樣會不受企業歡迎;景氣不好的
時候,某人力銀行老董甚至還告訴新鮮人,不拿薪水去企業當義工學習也沒關係。古時
候就連當有錢人的家奴也都還有飯吃、有微薄的工資,台灣曾幾何時景氣差到要人力銀
行來告訴民眾去幫企業財團當沒錢的義工,還得吃自己、住自己、交通油錢自己包?
雖然勞工薪資不振的責任不全是因為人力銀行,然而人力銀行長期的誤導與渲染,也要負
起相當的責任。
但問題是,面對這許多調查內容有問題的人力銀行,按理媒體應該為專業進行把關的,
為什麼反而甘願被人力銀行拿來當作新聞宣傳的工具呢?因為現在的媒體只對話題聳動
感興趣,專業性跟正確性已經不是媒體把關的重點,只要有話題、媒體就愛報;二來對
記者來說,可以等著服務態度良好的人力銀行公關來服務、為你供稿,缺稿的時候可以
把人力銀行的公關當作供稿機、請他們供稿充版面,特別是連假或是春節期間,還可以
幫記者準備備稿;逢年過節還有禮品可收,某大媒體的記者還可以指定禮品、要求人力
銀行送甚麼月餅、哪家飯店的粽子。而一家知名人力銀行的公
關主管,與媒體關係好到可以與這些媒體主管、談話性節目的媒體人一起去上酒店慶生
、把酒言歡、甚至還招待一同出國,有些人力銀行的公關部門多達十數人,開一間公關
公司綽綽有餘。
在這種扭曲的情形下,台灣本來就弱勢的勞工,一方面要依靠人力銀行找工作,一方面
卻又得飽受人力銀行資訊上的欺凌,更諷刺的是,人力銀行一方面拿你的履歷表當做賣
給企業的產品,一方面卻也不斷地在新聞與行銷資訊上打壓你的薪資與福利,間接的造
成你的薪水「凍結」,一方面還厚臉皮的扮演你的導師、你的神,以求職專家的角色自
居,告訴你如何找工作、如何跟老闆相處、如何不被開除,如何才能爭取加薪
,如何才在職場生存。但值得玩味的是,其實許多人力銀行所謂的專家,也不過就是一
般的職場勞工,這些所謂的求職專家,最後也是被所屬人力銀行一腳踢
開,此時,人力銀行所謂職場專家的角色,不過是一場笑話與迷思,勞工不靠自己的
專業與態度,卻去迷信靠打壓勞工大賺其財的人力銀行專家的話,就如同請鬼拿藥單一
樣,看著自己的薪資越來越虛弱而已。人力銀行對勞工市場的新聞惡戰,就如同許多炒
手在股票市場中亂放話一般,後者影響金融市場秩序,前者也破壞勞工薪資市場秩序,
如果出面約投顧是金管會的責任,那麼政府是不是也應該好好約束一下這些人力銀行,
管管人力銀行亂象呢?
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心得: 前陣子有人提倡畢業生無薪到企業當義工,實在讓我印象非常深刻
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