公務員「低等高俸」 擬修法檢討 - 薪水
By Gilbert
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at 2013-06-02T22:35
Table of Contents
: 補充一下,事實就是教師的壓力還是比公務員來的高,
: 大學教授的評鑑絕對沒有高中以下教師的評鑑複雜、囉嗦、麻煩,
: 即使是第一線面對民眾的承辦人員,會需要每天看同樣的30個民眾一週五天,
: 一年9個月(寒暑假有上課)就是11個月。還要負責跟他家裡大大小小親戚保持
: 良好關係,家長有問題隨時打電話來找你詢問抱怨,從小孩不吃飯到不寫功課
: 全部都說是你的問題。民眾會因為不會填表格每天來問你一次連續問一年嗎?
: 全部外包給派遣公司,反正1999都可以外包了,地政戶政這些鄉鎮區公所辦事員也外
: 包給人力公司每年至少可以省下上百億人事成本呢~
老師很辛苦,跟公務員一樣也很辛苦,我不想戰你,老實說你的程度也只是這樣
戰你實在沒有甚麼意義,但這是公務員版,你說的很多情況我都想要澄清一下
教師的壓力跟公務員壓力哪個比較高?天知道。
你舉了很多例子,我們也看到報紙有些報導,老師被羞辱的也不少
我問個簡單的問題就好,當老師被羞辱時,跟公務員被羞辱時
請問社會大眾一般會比較同情老師還是比較同情公務員?
好吧,也許你會說現在兩者都不會得到同情,很好啊
回到我前面說的,大家都一樣辛苦被幹譙
那你怎麼得出老師壓力就是比公務員來的高的結論?嗯,你說的算?
這種沒有根據跟來源的結論,你來補充,那一點意義都沒有,只會讓人更笑話你而已
再者
你有做過大學教授的評鑑?你怎麼確定大學教育的評鑑就是比高中簡單
基本上只要有評鑑,都是複雜、囉唆跟麻煩的
那你知道公務員要接受甚麼樣的考核嗎?
我來說給你聽聽
一個公務員上班會先要簽辦公文,你要好好簽跟辦啊,因為我們有最複雜的公文考核
沒有壓八碼?缺點 沒有蓋簽收職章? 還是缺點 沒有寫併案文號?記缺點記給你死
請問你們老師改作業,會有你在改時就有人不斷的要提醒你不能這樣改唷
你要注意這注意那,你要記得格式是這樣,用語是這樣囉裡八縮的一堆
然後有一天你的作業批改會被抓出來挑錯,你的考績會因為被挑錯而有影響
這只是小菜而已。
辦工程有工程三級管考、上級長官督考、研考會督考,最後審計再來補一刀考死你
辦活動有經費核銷,辦採購有採購法,寫計畫有計畫督考,現在還要訂績效指標
我都覺得一個新進公務員的人會很可憐
你會辦採購案嗎?你會辦招標案嗎?你知道甚麼時候要填該填的報表嗎?
你知道怎麼辦會勘嗎?你知道怎麼辦協調案嗎?你知道被考核要準備甚麼東西嗎?
你知道審計處會查你甚麼嗎?你知道辦活動要注意哪些事情嗎?
你知道回議員要怎麼回嗎?你知道人民陳情案或申訴案要怎麼因應嗎?
我可以列出一百個這些你該知道要知道你不知道你就會死翹翹的東西
你可以想像嗎?我看你很難想像
我簡單來說好了
公務員的情況是
比如說你現在當老師的每一個動作,你的教學、你的指導包括你所謂的跟學生聯絡
很抱歉現在公務員都設計一套制度來管制你
甚麼叫管制,就是你每一個動作都會有相對應的程序來控管你
我有接觸到大學教授的評鑑制度過,他們絕對沒有我們繁瑣跟細緻,我是說整人的細緻
但我沒有接觸過高中老師以下的東西,即便我交過教高中到國中到國小到幼稚園的
老師女朋友
但我還是不敢說誰比較繁瑣
只有你敢這樣說,老話一句,嗯,你說的算?
補充說一個我最近很感傷的事情,某個機關第三號人物來開會
他說在某個事件發生時,他們全部機關的人白天都在接電話,無止盡的電話打進來臭幹
怪獸家長很盧我們都知道,但你如果真的覺得他們很盧
那你就想像一下可能有幾百個怪獸家長一起在某一個時間打電話進來幹
一起喔,不是一個輪一個,是一起來幹翻你
你幾十個家長老師就快瘋了,行政機關有時要面對幾百個幾千個民眾
用電話、用市長信箱、用1999輪番轟炸
第三號人物老總說他那時每天接電話接到手軟,每天看公文看到半夜兩點
我聽到時真的很想哭
這就是我們現在的公務人員,大家都是人生父母養的
怎麼我們當公務員當到最後怎麼就不是人了,大家都還覺得砍死我們剛好而已
雖然這樣,我還是說,我不會覺得我比你們老師辛苦,大家都有辛苦的點。
刁民我就不想講了
給你看一個影片如何:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlXFSd9N9zM
你覺得他是幾年才發生一次嗎?不,他每天都在不同的公務機關中上演著
我旁邊就是人民陳情區,我幾乎每天都會聽到隔壁的在咆哮
無止盡的陳情,無止境的謾罵,沒有終點也沒有範圍
反子老子(娘)我高興就來行政機關罵你
罵你官僚、罵你米蟲、罵你垃圾人、罵你王八蛋、罵你涼卡好......
反正現在人民最大,公務員都是底層的人渣就是了
最後,我要跟你說
你知道在地方政府,人事費最高的是誰嗎?我看你也不知道
幾個區公所的小小兩三萬的辦事員能佔掉多少額度?上百億?別說出來笑死人了
教育經費最高。
那教育經費類別中甚麼項目額度最大嗎?就是你們老師的薪水跟退撫
如果政府真的財政困難發不出錢來,要真正解決問題的話不找你們要找誰
你們現在還沒有真正被找麻煩的原因是因為你們有工會,有工會就有選票
所以政治人物一時之間還不敢動你們
還有大家還殘存一點對老師的尊重,即便只剩那麼一點點,都很夠你們現在用了
而我們該死的公務員連組工會的權力都沒有,連基本的尊重都沒有
這才是問題的關鍵所在
不過也快了拉,當有一天砍我們砍到流血見骨,血都流光了骨頭也散了
接下來就是找你們開刀
誰叫我們生不逢時呢?
算了,跟你說太多你也不見得想聽,就當給版上大家參考跟我寫書計畫的一部份吧。
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