分享工作的心得 - 工程師
By Liam
at 2015-07-25T02:18
at 2015-07-25T02:18
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工作七年多了,最近看到眾多的開獎文,內心相當有感;
心裡除了感到羨慕,更多的是感覺到自己工作上的失敗。
因為文章長,按照現在的流行趨勢,先講結論:
1、念書或做研究跟工作是兩回事
2、科系真的還是蠻重要的
3、做人還是比做事重要多了
4、興趣是會被現實給磨掉的,握在手中的錢才是真的
5、找個月薪高的工作,至少不用跪求主管的施捨
6、沒辦法選擇工作跟家庭兼顧時,至少選擇一個,不要兩頭空
先說說自己的背景好了,大學聯考的時候分數可以上醫科,
除了台大電機之外,其他的電機也都可以上,
那時因為興趣的關係堅持要填機械系,但親友或師長要嘛說醫科要嘛說電機,
但我還是填了機械系,在大學的時候課業還可以,也拿過書卷,
研究所就順利地推甄然後畢業。
同實驗室的學長出國比例很高,同學也有人出國,
那時老師希望我簽下去,學長建議我出國念書。
但我在當時覺得:念書念了好久,有點厭倦,希望去工作,能學以致用。
會寫這些經歷,只是為了凸顯讀書還讀得不錯,工作卻...
大學時代,有個大我快十歲的親戚在電子業當主管,也有直屬的學長在台積電,
那是分紅尚未費用化的時代,聽到他們講的年薪讓我很驚訝,感覺做十年就可以退休。
看著這些前人告訴我的經驗,從來沒有考慮過錢的問題,我以為我的未來應該還不錯,
大概可以不用為了錢煩惱,頂多要累一點,這我可以接受。
後來工作的時候,發現自己錯得離譜,剛好開始分紅費用化了,
再來就是機械出身在台灣這種電子業為多數的地方,真的比較不重要。
我那時候工作一開始薪水是四萬多,然後台清交成有多個兩三千元,
前面幾年工作,真的很認真,很充實,大概每週都有幾天是我關燈的,
薪水呢,也還可以,大概第三年年薪百萬,月薪那時候是五萬一,好像也還可以。
但後來呢,因為某個設計的想法跟主管不同,
老闆希望東西趕快出來,有問題也沒關係,但我還是希望能夠把東西做好,
大概是我也有些堅持吧,老闆就依我。
所以呢,我幾乎一整個月都超過十二點下班,六日也自行去上班,想把東西做好,
然後主管突然變得要求很完美,每天review我,找問題,問題越解越多,
最後,產出的東西還是有問題,自此,開始我悲慘的工作時光。
只能主管說想到就開始找我"討論",然後開始酸言酸語,
接著呢,俗話說的好:"朕不給的,你不能搶",所以隔年的分紅是不到一個月的薪水。
所以呢,在薪水少了二十幾萬的情況下,我也只能說再見。
在那裡工作,我看到跟主管一起玩樂的人,講出那種我以為只有電視上才有的逢迎之詞,
儘管犯了錯,儘管沒有產出,薪水仍是三級跳的人。
而故事總有個結局,就跟電視中演得差不多,那個單位後來也倒了。
不過認真來說,我還是佩服會講話會做人的人
再來就是第二份工作了,一樣是系統廠,一樣是月薪五萬多吧,
我還是得說自己又犯錯了,那時面試的時候跟主管談薪水是年薪一百萬,主管也說好。
結果進去的隔年確跟我說沒有分紅,我跟他反映當時面試談的條件,
然後主管說他忘記了,今年只能補個十萬元給我,明年會補償給你。
我相信了,隔年的年薪也差不多一百萬出頭,我想也沒有所謂的補償這件事情吧。
然後是今年,前幾個月主管有說,因為部門比較沒有賺錢,所以今年分紅比去年少;
不過當我得知同部門的軟硬體的分紅是我的一倍,而且其實比去年高的時候,
我只能說當主管還真的是要會說話啊!!!
我是覺得自己還算蠻認真,雖然不像上一份工作一樣常常關燈,
但每個月總會有幾次是最後一個走的,
而對比同部門的軟硬體生活得很有品質,我只後悔自己念得不是電機啊。
而工作有效率的結果,卻只是被塞了更多工作,就弄得更晚回家而已。
而讓我最哭笑不得的是,主管總會在我面前說,像我這種職位,給的薪水已經很高了。
我也只能陪笑(有了小孩之後,我對於主管的要求就只有同意而已)。
工作了七年多,結果跟第三年的年薪差不多,我真的有點難過。
認真來說,我對於這兩份工作是相當有熱忱,
我還蠻享受在工作成果帶給我的成就感,所以我很樂意沉浸在工作;
但實在是因為錢的關係,真的讓我對於工作感覺到有些疲憊。
畢竟是有家庭有小孩的人了,經濟負擔真的有點重,
老婆的薪水不高,但至少可以早下班回家陪小孩。
貸款還有保母的費用,對於每個月的月薪來說都是透支,
就是靠著分紅來撐著月薪透支的部分,而主管沒給你的那幾年,
還是靠著跟家裡借錢才撐過去,只能靠隔年再還錢;覺得自己真的非常失敗。
前一陣子跟一個高中學弟談,他在當國小老師,工作年資比我少兩年,
接了行政再加一些多上的課,月薪快七萬,年薪接近百萬,再加上寒暑假,我只有羨慕。
想一想真的該找一個月薪高一點的工作,至少讓每個月的收支平衡。
每年等著主管是否會給你分紅,還真的是煎熬,也多讓人失望。
要嘛找個錢比較多的工作,要嘛找個可以陪家人的工作,
像現在這樣,有點兩頭空,真的有點悲哀。
其實我想我也沒甚麼好抱怨的,就像我一個同事講的,
他說:你的薪資是主管對你的價值,就算你再認真再厲害,
但對於主管來說,如果你不重要,你就是值這麼多。
所以你只能想辦法讓主管欣賞你,不然你只有離開。
講這句話的同事因為不受主管喜愛,後來就創業去了。
我想,我也該好好地思考自己下一份工作了。
最後補充一下機械系的同學或者學長學弟工作的情形:
好的有出國唸書回來就在國外工作的,或者回來當教授的,
當我發現我同學指導的學生變成我的同事時,內心其實相當的複雜。
大我幾屆的學長也有在上市公司當主管,真的只能說佩服。
有些在大學時代轉電機或者研究所念電機所,大多過得還不錯。
前幾年,也真的有一些同學或學弟工作個兩年去考公務員,也大多順利考上,
當初也一度有些不解,慢慢地也能體會了。
還有比較特別的,碩士念完去重考醫科,他直接了當地說機械系在台灣沒前途。
其實大部分也跟我差不多就一般工程師,不過薪水大多比我高啊!!!
去年有跟在美國工作的同學聊天,他是兩周發一次薪水,雖然沒有所謂的分紅,
不過薪水是穩定往上,每年調薪大約是3~5%,工時超級正常,
他有考慮是否要回台灣,問我跟其他幾個同學的想法,
不過聽了幾個人的講法後就完全打消念頭了...
原本只是想簡單發表一下想法,結果打得落落長,
有點想睡,內容如果有些亂,敬請見諒。
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心裡除了感到羨慕,更多的是感覺到自己工作上的失敗。
因為文章長,按照現在的流行趨勢,先講結論:
1、念書或做研究跟工作是兩回事
2、科系真的還是蠻重要的
3、做人還是比做事重要多了
4、興趣是會被現實給磨掉的,握在手中的錢才是真的
5、找個月薪高的工作,至少不用跪求主管的施捨
6、沒辦法選擇工作跟家庭兼顧時,至少選擇一個,不要兩頭空
先說說自己的背景好了,大學聯考的時候分數可以上醫科,
除了台大電機之外,其他的電機也都可以上,
那時因為興趣的關係堅持要填機械系,但親友或師長要嘛說醫科要嘛說電機,
但我還是填了機械系,在大學的時候課業還可以,也拿過書卷,
研究所就順利地推甄然後畢業。
同實驗室的學長出國比例很高,同學也有人出國,
那時老師希望我簽下去,學長建議我出國念書。
但我在當時覺得:念書念了好久,有點厭倦,希望去工作,能學以致用。
會寫這些經歷,只是為了凸顯讀書還讀得不錯,工作卻...
大學時代,有個大我快十歲的親戚在電子業當主管,也有直屬的學長在台積電,
那是分紅尚未費用化的時代,聽到他們講的年薪讓我很驚訝,感覺做十年就可以退休。
看著這些前人告訴我的經驗,從來沒有考慮過錢的問題,我以為我的未來應該還不錯,
大概可以不用為了錢煩惱,頂多要累一點,這我可以接受。
後來工作的時候,發現自己錯得離譜,剛好開始分紅費用化了,
再來就是機械出身在台灣這種電子業為多數的地方,真的比較不重要。
我那時候工作一開始薪水是四萬多,然後台清交成有多個兩三千元,
前面幾年工作,真的很認真,很充實,大概每週都有幾天是我關燈的,
薪水呢,也還可以,大概第三年年薪百萬,月薪那時候是五萬一,好像也還可以。
但後來呢,因為某個設計的想法跟主管不同,
老闆希望東西趕快出來,有問題也沒關係,但我還是希望能夠把東西做好,
大概是我也有些堅持吧,老闆就依我。
所以呢,我幾乎一整個月都超過十二點下班,六日也自行去上班,想把東西做好,
然後主管突然變得要求很完美,每天review我,找問題,問題越解越多,
最後,產出的東西還是有問題,自此,開始我悲慘的工作時光。
只能主管說想到就開始找我"討論",然後開始酸言酸語,
接著呢,俗話說的好:"朕不給的,你不能搶",所以隔年的分紅是不到一個月的薪水。
所以呢,在薪水少了二十幾萬的情況下,我也只能說再見。
在那裡工作,我看到跟主管一起玩樂的人,講出那種我以為只有電視上才有的逢迎之詞,
儘管犯了錯,儘管沒有產出,薪水仍是三級跳的人。
而故事總有個結局,就跟電視中演得差不多,那個單位後來也倒了。
不過認真來說,我還是佩服會講話會做人的人
再來就是第二份工作了,一樣是系統廠,一樣是月薪五萬多吧,
我還是得說自己又犯錯了,那時面試的時候跟主管談薪水是年薪一百萬,主管也說好。
結果進去的隔年確跟我說沒有分紅,我跟他反映當時面試談的條件,
然後主管說他忘記了,今年只能補個十萬元給我,明年會補償給你。
我相信了,隔年的年薪也差不多一百萬出頭,我想也沒有所謂的補償這件事情吧。
然後是今年,前幾個月主管有說,因為部門比較沒有賺錢,所以今年分紅比去年少;
不過當我得知同部門的軟硬體的分紅是我的一倍,而且其實比去年高的時候,
我只能說當主管還真的是要會說話啊!!!
我是覺得自己還算蠻認真,雖然不像上一份工作一樣常常關燈,
但每個月總會有幾次是最後一個走的,
而對比同部門的軟硬體生活得很有品質,我只後悔自己念得不是電機啊。
而工作有效率的結果,卻只是被塞了更多工作,就弄得更晚回家而已。
而讓我最哭笑不得的是,主管總會在我面前說,像我這種職位,給的薪水已經很高了。
我也只能陪笑(有了小孩之後,我對於主管的要求就只有同意而已)。
工作了七年多,結果跟第三年的年薪差不多,我真的有點難過。
認真來說,我對於這兩份工作是相當有熱忱,
我還蠻享受在工作成果帶給我的成就感,所以我很樂意沉浸在工作;
但實在是因為錢的關係,真的讓我對於工作感覺到有些疲憊。
畢竟是有家庭有小孩的人了,經濟負擔真的有點重,
老婆的薪水不高,但至少可以早下班回家陪小孩。
貸款還有保母的費用,對於每個月的月薪來說都是透支,
就是靠著分紅來撐著月薪透支的部分,而主管沒給你的那幾年,
還是靠著跟家裡借錢才撐過去,只能靠隔年再還錢;覺得自己真的非常失敗。
前一陣子跟一個高中學弟談,他在當國小老師,工作年資比我少兩年,
接了行政再加一些多上的課,月薪快七萬,年薪接近百萬,再加上寒暑假,我只有羨慕。
想一想真的該找一個月薪高一點的工作,至少讓每個月的收支平衡。
每年等著主管是否會給你分紅,還真的是煎熬,也多讓人失望。
要嘛找個錢比較多的工作,要嘛找個可以陪家人的工作,
像現在這樣,有點兩頭空,真的有點悲哀。
其實我想我也沒甚麼好抱怨的,就像我一個同事講的,
他說:你的薪資是主管對你的價值,就算你再認真再厲害,
但對於主管來說,如果你不重要,你就是值這麼多。
所以你只能想辦法讓主管欣賞你,不然你只有離開。
講這句話的同事因為不受主管喜愛,後來就創業去了。
我想,我也該好好地思考自己下一份工作了。
最後補充一下機械系的同學或者學長學弟工作的情形:
好的有出國唸書回來就在國外工作的,或者回來當教授的,
當我發現我同學指導的學生變成我的同事時,內心其實相當的複雜。
大我幾屆的學長也有在上市公司當主管,真的只能說佩服。
有些在大學時代轉電機或者研究所念電機所,大多過得還不錯。
前幾年,也真的有一些同學或學弟工作個兩年去考公務員,也大多順利考上,
當初也一度有些不解,慢慢地也能體會了。
還有比較特別的,碩士念完去重考醫科,他直接了當地說機械系在台灣沒前途。
其實大部分也跟我差不多就一般工程師,不過薪水大多比我高啊!!!
去年有跟在美國工作的同學聊天,他是兩周發一次薪水,雖然沒有所謂的分紅,
不過薪水是穩定往上,每年調薪大約是3~5%,工時超級正常,
他有考慮是否要回台灣,問我跟其他幾個同學的想法,
不過聽了幾個人的講法後就完全打消念頭了...
原本只是想簡單發表一下想法,結果打得落落長,
有點想睡,內容如果有些亂,敬請見諒。
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