台酒改革風波不斷 - 國營工作討論
By Emily
at 2022-08-19T17:46
at 2022-08-19T17:46
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※ 引述《skyriver (天河傳說)》之銘言:
: 強者我朋友說,台酒近年內部改造混亂,已經快炸鍋了...
: 最近有某單位員工上書文,還沒聽到善意回應,卻已經有傳出政風率先調查。基於善意
提
: 充分資訊,各位ptt考友自行參考評估。
嗨,我是一月份剛進去台酒的菜逼八,不過最近跳槽了 (對啦我就想不開)
以我半年的觀察來說,我是覺得台酒沒有到不能待不要考進來那麼糟糕啦...
(如果是進酒廠單位,工作內容固定目標簡明、排班工時固定、升等容易、長官在工會又
很有力...怎麼會不好?)
但我覺得最重要的是你要考台酒,你要選對類組,
考進去的事業部和職位一定要選要打聽...
像我就是沒打聽然後考到屎缺的那個 (阿我就北七啊 誰知道練筆練到考上 有上就去了)
台酒現在就是:
可以待,但要長期待到整個人生都壓在這間公司待到退休的話...你可能要再三思 QQ
先說結論:
要考盡量不要選流通事業部相關職缺,
訪銷/行銷相關職缺未來幾年會各種不穩定,要考要三思...
台酒最近的問題在於流通事業部(各地營業處/營業所)真的是各種亂,
改革亂/裁撤亂/整編亂/職務內容亂...等
1.因為營收不斷的...(默),六都以外地區的營業所一個個裁掉,
運氣不好的話做沒幾年就又可能要調換地區喔!
(也因不斷裁撤,新人等三年到想請調回家附近時,可能你想調的營業所已經不見了哦!)
2.產銷不配合,淡季酒廠做一堆銷不出要行銷加緊賣去庫存,旺季賣正好時沒原料沒貨趕
不出來,不然就是超限量。
(訪銷外務跟櫃台業務都會壓力山大,不是業績目標太難壓力大,不然就是店家一直催問
,買不到搶不到會客訴)
3.產品愈來愈多種,行銷促案超多檔,加上端午中元中秋年節一堆全員行銷,無論淡旺季
營業所都是被操到爆。
(淡季搞庫存去化、每個月都有新品鋪貨、旺季搞支援特販量販週末加班、幾大節日發目
錄禮盒送貨...總之一堆!)
(不太會有哪個月是能讓訪銷自主規劃當月工作,原訂工作做完就沒事的,永遠都有一堆
臨時的要求...)
4.上面覺得傳統通路營收少但人員佔比多,量販特販CVS剛好反過來,所以上面又一直覺
得營業所很冗想動刀ㄏㄏ
(前面所述不斷支援特販量販週末加班就是這樣來der,上面覺得訪員一週40小時,業績貢
獻沒特販週末兩天多)
5.因傳統菸酒啤酒產品逐漸式微,營收又...(默),不斷研發出一大堆新產品,要營業所
拼死命的搞新品鋪貨。
(搞新品鋪貨,意思就是訪銷員大概又要自掏腰包先買下來把業績先做出來交差,
然後又要到處想辦法解套惹...)
(國營的所以不可能有啥業務特支費,業績達到也不會有業績獎金,
你訪銷員薪水跟其他同梯的都一模一樣...)
(但你卻要持續花錢在公司新品上,還要自己想辦法賣掉週轉回來,
如果沒人脈沒銷路賣到產品過期那賠的就是...你)
(總之新品愈多、促案愈多、負責的產品種類愈多,則該訪員當月實質可支配所得就愈少
,因為你薪水會卡在產品)
(另外鋪賣出去但銷售冷淡的失敗新品,半年一年後還會變成業障要你設法處理,失敗的
新品佔比自然是不低的!)
6.未來的工作職掌會不會因為某些改革又有大變動,沒有人知道,但很多人害怕的是愈改
愈差,愈改工作愈操...
(想要改革但連解凍都作不到,因為想不到可取代目前營業所,又能應付目前傳統雜貨店
和菸酒店的新模式...)
(待退待調回鄉準備退休前養老的高齡員工,目前佔比太多,想改基本上會搞到太多待退
,所以速度非、常、慢。)
7.台酒再這樣衰退下去真能讓青世代員工穩穩待到退休嗎?這是不少想跳走/已跳走的人
最大的憂慮。
(也許不會倒,但完全民營變成非常"精實"的公司似乎在所難免,
福利會不會大砍?會不會大裁員?很多變數啊,怕!)
最後我在台酒半年訪銷員的見聞心得大概可以歸納如下:
市佔率競爭就好比一場耐力賽車,沒有終點,純粹比誰跑最久最多圈又領先其他人最多。
你的產品就是那輛賽車,背後代表的是整個公司團隊努力的結晶。
生產單位就是引擎、行銷單位就是駕駛、市場狀況就是那個無止盡的賽道。
要跑到第一名之前首先你要能完賽,或至少也要跑完一圈(一個產品生命週期)
才能回工作站維修改良換車,你的研發團隊才知道問題在哪裡。
(沒變化波動,每家都賣的好衝業績,就好比直線賽道,大家都引擎馬力全開盡量加速。)
(但淡旺季、疫情、需求變動等等市場狀況就好比那些彎道,
需要車子跟駕駛互相協調配合來克服。)
可能有人想問,那訪銷會是什麼?
我會說...訪銷就是營業所這顆輪子的輪胎啊!
(跟市場接觸並緊咬市場狀況、提供公司穩穩抓緊客戶及市場需求的抓地力、
還有作調整時的控制力)
台酒現在的問題簡單說就是...退檔升檔時引擎的反應都太慢惹 QQ
(公司淡季都要用五速過彎,那當輪胎的訪員難道不會消耗過大更換頻繁嗎??)
(直線加速產能的提高也太慢就又是另一件事了...就別說惹 QQ)
總之,台酒可以考可以待,但是要盡量考對單位啊~
--
一樽藥酒三兩肉,憨飲五時。
花雨下飄玖座邊,喜賞月色。
茶香乃至正應襯,葉嫩肥綠。
錶至二時宮更聲,四起豬哮。
--
: 強者我朋友說,台酒近年內部改造混亂,已經快炸鍋了...
: 最近有某單位員工上書文,還沒聽到善意回應,卻已經有傳出政風率先調查。基於善意
提
: 充分資訊,各位ptt考友自行參考評估。
嗨,我是一月份剛進去台酒的菜逼八,不過最近跳槽了 (對啦我就想不開)
以我半年的觀察來說,我是覺得台酒沒有到不能待不要考進來那麼糟糕啦...
(如果是進酒廠單位,工作內容固定目標簡明、排班工時固定、升等容易、長官在工會又
很有力...怎麼會不好?)
但我覺得最重要的是你要考台酒,你要選對類組,
考進去的事業部和職位一定要選要打聽...
像我就是沒打聽然後考到屎缺的那個 (阿我就北七啊 誰知道練筆練到考上 有上就去了)
台酒現在就是:
可以待,但要長期待到整個人生都壓在這間公司待到退休的話...你可能要再三思 QQ
先說結論:
要考盡量不要選流通事業部相關職缺,
訪銷/行銷相關職缺未來幾年會各種不穩定,要考要三思...
台酒最近的問題在於流通事業部(各地營業處/營業所)真的是各種亂,
改革亂/裁撤亂/整編亂/職務內容亂...等
1.因為營收不斷的...(默),六都以外地區的營業所一個個裁掉,
運氣不好的話做沒幾年就又可能要調換地區喔!
(也因不斷裁撤,新人等三年到想請調回家附近時,可能你想調的營業所已經不見了哦!)
2.產銷不配合,淡季酒廠做一堆銷不出要行銷加緊賣去庫存,旺季賣正好時沒原料沒貨趕
不出來,不然就是超限量。
(訪銷外務跟櫃台業務都會壓力山大,不是業績目標太難壓力大,不然就是店家一直催問
,買不到搶不到會客訴)
3.產品愈來愈多種,行銷促案超多檔,加上端午中元中秋年節一堆全員行銷,無論淡旺季
營業所都是被操到爆。
(淡季搞庫存去化、每個月都有新品鋪貨、旺季搞支援特販量販週末加班、幾大節日發目
錄禮盒送貨...總之一堆!)
(不太會有哪個月是能讓訪銷自主規劃當月工作,原訂工作做完就沒事的,永遠都有一堆
臨時的要求...)
4.上面覺得傳統通路營收少但人員佔比多,量販特販CVS剛好反過來,所以上面又一直覺
得營業所很冗想動刀ㄏㄏ
(前面所述不斷支援特販量販週末加班就是這樣來der,上面覺得訪員一週40小時,業績貢
獻沒特販週末兩天多)
5.因傳統菸酒啤酒產品逐漸式微,營收又...(默),不斷研發出一大堆新產品,要營業所
拼死命的搞新品鋪貨。
(搞新品鋪貨,意思就是訪銷員大概又要自掏腰包先買下來把業績先做出來交差,
然後又要到處想辦法解套惹...)
(國營的所以不可能有啥業務特支費,業績達到也不會有業績獎金,
你訪銷員薪水跟其他同梯的都一模一樣...)
(但你卻要持續花錢在公司新品上,還要自己想辦法賣掉週轉回來,
如果沒人脈沒銷路賣到產品過期那賠的就是...你)
(總之新品愈多、促案愈多、負責的產品種類愈多,則該訪員當月實質可支配所得就愈少
,因為你薪水會卡在產品)
(另外鋪賣出去但銷售冷淡的失敗新品,半年一年後還會變成業障要你設法處理,失敗的
新品佔比自然是不低的!)
6.未來的工作職掌會不會因為某些改革又有大變動,沒有人知道,但很多人害怕的是愈改
愈差,愈改工作愈操...
(想要改革但連解凍都作不到,因為想不到可取代目前營業所,又能應付目前傳統雜貨店
和菸酒店的新模式...)
(待退待調回鄉準備退休前養老的高齡員工,目前佔比太多,想改基本上會搞到太多待退
,所以速度非、常、慢。)
7.台酒再這樣衰退下去真能讓青世代員工穩穩待到退休嗎?這是不少想跳走/已跳走的人
最大的憂慮。
(也許不會倒,但完全民營變成非常"精實"的公司似乎在所難免,
福利會不會大砍?會不會大裁員?很多變數啊,怕!)
最後我在台酒半年訪銷員的見聞心得大概可以歸納如下:
市佔率競爭就好比一場耐力賽車,沒有終點,純粹比誰跑最久最多圈又領先其他人最多。
你的產品就是那輛賽車,背後代表的是整個公司團隊努力的結晶。
生產單位就是引擎、行銷單位就是駕駛、市場狀況就是那個無止盡的賽道。
要跑到第一名之前首先你要能完賽,或至少也要跑完一圈(一個產品生命週期)
才能回工作站維修改良換車,你的研發團隊才知道問題在哪裡。
(沒變化波動,每家都賣的好衝業績,就好比直線賽道,大家都引擎馬力全開盡量加速。)
(但淡旺季、疫情、需求變動等等市場狀況就好比那些彎道,
需要車子跟駕駛互相協調配合來克服。)
可能有人想問,那訪銷會是什麼?
我會說...訪銷就是營業所這顆輪子的輪胎啊!
(跟市場接觸並緊咬市場狀況、提供公司穩穩抓緊客戶及市場需求的抓地力、
還有作調整時的控制力)
台酒現在的問題簡單說就是...退檔升檔時引擎的反應都太慢惹 QQ
(公司淡季都要用五速過彎,那當輪胎的訪員難道不會消耗過大更換頻繁嗎??)
(直線加速產能的提高也太慢就又是另一件事了...就別說惹 QQ)
總之,台酒可以考可以待,但是要盡量考對單位啊~
--
一樽藥酒三兩肉,憨飲五時。
花雨下飄玖座邊,喜賞月色。
茶香乃至正應襯,葉嫩肥綠。
錶至二時宮更聲,四起豬哮。
--
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