國營事業的處境 - 國營工作討論

By Xanthe
at 2022-08-14T02:35
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※ 引述《sliencesky (潛龍勿用)》之銘言:
: 我比較擔心物價大幅上漲、房價高漲,
: 國營員工跟基層公務員沒有做大幅結構調薪根本吃土了,
: 未來退休金繳錢有份,領錢沒份,
: 照目前這種低估的通膨算法,
: 未來退休金就算有也是無法負擔老年退休生活。
: 感覺一年不如一年。
目前公教國營人員 肯定都這樣子想
國營的薪資待遇調整 比照政府對公務員的調整
但是這10年來 調薪的幅度 相對通膨來說 都低幾個檔次
PS.所謂調薪 是整張薪資表的提高 年資跳級的加薪另計
調薪是因應通膨做的全盤調整
年資加薪是個人經歷累積的升級
畢竟我們大家 當初到公教國營
求的就是一個安穩
也期望薪資待遇跟著通膨提高 維持相等的待遇地位
但是目前政府趨勢 是打壓公教
年金改革第一槍之後
後面調薪幅度也跟不上
如果以這個趨勢前進
雖然餓不死
但會覺得跟自己當初的職涯期許有落差
怕就怕 差距還越來越大
然後看看自己年紀 也3X-4X了
跳槽也跳不走
被嗆不爽不要幹~ 也沒辦法回應
心理OS: 要是回到24歲碩畢那年 真的會選別條路
當然~ 會有這些心境
也是因為科技業起飛太大
10年前公教國營還是很夯的時候
許多四大碩 頂著很低的錄取率來到了本版
結果現在~ 同期的同學在科技業的
待遇直接電你2-3倍
怎麼想都無法說服自己放下
懊惱的心緒 三不五時冒出來
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: 我比較擔心物價大幅上漲、房價高漲,
: 國營員工跟基層公務員沒有做大幅結構調薪根本吃土了,
: 未來退休金繳錢有份,領錢沒份,
: 照目前這種低估的通膨算法,
: 未來退休金就算有也是無法負擔老年退休生活。
: 感覺一年不如一年。
目前公教國營人員 肯定都這樣子想
國營的薪資待遇調整 比照政府對公務員的調整
但是這10年來 調薪的幅度 相對通膨來說 都低幾個檔次
PS.所謂調薪 是整張薪資表的提高 年資跳級的加薪另計
調薪是因應通膨做的全盤調整
年資加薪是個人經歷累積的升級
畢竟我們大家 當初到公教國營
求的就是一個安穩
也期望薪資待遇跟著通膨提高 維持相等的待遇地位
但是目前政府趨勢 是打壓公教
年金改革第一槍之後
後面調薪幅度也跟不上
如果以這個趨勢前進
雖然餓不死
但會覺得跟自己當初的職涯期許有落差
怕就怕 差距還越來越大
然後看看自己年紀 也3X-4X了
跳槽也跳不走
被嗆不爽不要幹~ 也沒辦法回應
心理OS: 要是回到24歲碩畢那年 真的會選別條路
當然~ 會有這些心境
也是因為科技業起飛太大
10年前公教國營還是很夯的時候
許多四大碩 頂著很低的錄取率來到了本版
結果現在~ 同期的同學在科技業的
待遇直接電你2-3倍
怎麼想都無法說服自己放下
懊惱的心緒 三不五時冒出來
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By Harry
at 2022-08-14T18:45
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鮮的肝換來的 自己摸良心想想吧

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體,其它的不怎樣!

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例

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By Quanna
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接比錢根本是亂比呀。去年台積新人就走17%了

By Charlie
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方,這樣長期跟國營比國營真的未必輸啦

By George
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我安慰,老是找那些特別操的案例來看;另外你在國營有特別
爽嗎?至少我在台電沒有 Q.Q

By Erin
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要你撐到現在才嚐到甜頭,2012離2008金融海嘯沒有很遠,也
會影響你當時的判斷

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By Gilbert
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By Ivy
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心力換來的。你看到有誰私人輪班五十幾歲還能撐下去沒過勞
死的,反觀國營有聽過誰誰誰過勞死嗎。一個目標要的是錢去
拼四十歲退休,一個目標要的是穩定你能穩穩到65。兩個人生
目標不同,是要比三小。

By Catherine
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By Gary
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By Kumar
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By Michael
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前者升官速度還比後者快

By Dorothy
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By Ethan
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By Adele
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By Damian
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人生好痛苦 真的好苦 國營企業玩員工玩成這樣也不簡單

By Enid
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By Tristan Cohan
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輸個高工時科技業就吱吱叫 你在暗黑吧?

By Hedwig
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By Sarah
at 2022-08-23T02:08
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,當時可買附近公寓30坪房子一間!

By Queena
at 2022-08-22T09:58
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熬餓不死有什麼好比的?科技業幹十年你沒有被動收入
那真的各人財務家庭問題

By Caroline
at 2022-08-23T02:08
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了天下沒有白吃的午餐年薪高就工作累早算好了

By Edith
at 2022-08-22T09:58
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營薪水因為根本做身體健康的

By Andy
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的人根本沒煩惱

By William
at 2022-08-22T09:58
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活不活的回來 不知道

By Sierra Rose
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By Cara
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By Blanche
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人都6/7進棺材了 才退休也是可悲 都沒體力了
科技業40歲早早規劃當FIRE族 中年還有體力出國玩做
自己想做的事

By Noah
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作輕鬆準時上下班 還是很劣勢

By Elma
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By Joe
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By Bennie
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教打

By Anthony
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By Necoo
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國營我看呆20年都很難年薪兩百萬了
不用在國營浪費時間了 出來科技業賺錢吧

By Gilbert
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會說英文就是了

By Necoo
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監工囉,嘻嘻

By Zora
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By Hazel
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By Delia
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By Charlotte
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更正8:30~21:00

By Eden
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By Hedda
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經在退休享受後半人生了

By Connor
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的錢

By Sarah
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By Rosalind
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By Rosalind
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By Megan
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By Eartha
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的啦 那窩就認了

By Olga
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,在台灣除了部分科技業薪水有跟上外,其他產業幾
乎都被通膨慘電。加上某某上來執政後鬥軍公教,造
成一般勞工與軍公教對立更深,轉移台灣薪水太低這
個大家應該要一起改變的現況。

By Sarah
at 2022-08-22T09:58
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有困難,跟前人比當然會不滿,只能說生錯時代,年
輕人只能用生育率來反應。

By Dinah
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呀你們現在比我們當時好了啦,一進來就有多少特休….

By Olive
at 2022-08-22T09:58
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而科技業也只有前段班比國營好,不過前段班應該也好幾萬人

By Selena
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難跟進 就繼續對打沒關係 要死大家一起死

By Kelly
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很多外商也是爽爽 人家就不會覺得領太多

By George
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By Dinah
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By Steve
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國營本來就是想要上班壓力小 工時短 幹嘛去看GG多少

By Lily
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By Selena
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By Barb Cronin
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By Sierra Rose
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哥GG比肩嗎 笑死

By Barb Cronin
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By Candice
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By Olive
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瞧不起阿?

By Mary
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By Olive
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By Iris
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By Leila
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By Belly
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By Jacky
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Q

By Cara
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By Gary
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產業還是做工的人,或直接拿中位數平均數,想得到的
拿出來比每一個這幾年漲幅都遠大於國營
國營近十年就是被犧牲的那一塊,國營雇員起薪還被基
本薪資追著跑,國營整體薪資整體倒退成這樣真的悲哀

By Hedy
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難怪政府有恃無恐的繼續打壓

By Mason
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By Blanche
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By Carol
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By Lydia
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By Daph Bay
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By Blanche
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年感想,顧好自己,反正景氣會循環的

By Anthony
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今年分紅80~100W

By Doris
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邊壓力很小說風涼話,要他們對調換單位又閉嘴惹

By Quintina
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時喔?

By Franklin
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By Thomas
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就沒這種憂慮了

By Andy
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By Mason
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By Aaliyah
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By Isla
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By Heather
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By Hamiltion
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By Delia
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By Elizabeth
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By Joseph
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By Leila
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科技業多的是跟國營差不多薪水但是加班加到死的

By Ethan
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By Queena
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By Rosalind
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甚至更低。

By Caroline
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自己加班自己賺VS別人加班幫你賺的差別....

By Ursula
at 2022-08-22T09:58
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是國營的眼神跟看到窮人一樣

By Poppy
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本薪資附近的,有點程度的要考上不難
國立電機系畢應屆要考上職員很輕鬆,我同事同學不是都
是沒啥準備就上了,也有科技業幹一年跳出來的朋友也是
只準備半年就考上,然後之後離職回去又是另一個故事了

By Connor
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By Zenobia
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當然是會怨自己當初沒去科技業。但只會想著炒短線的
你,在十年前也不會有那個長遠眼光看的到科技業這幾
年的爆發不是嗎?所以當年的你當然不會選科技業,因
為當年的你也只關心短期的前程。

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