徵才方打來的二三事 - 考試

By Sarah
at 2023-05-10T21:25
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這幾年來也接過無數電話面試或是訪談
有的是team leader 有的是manager 有的是HR
其中我覺得最令人又氣又笑的是以下情境(全部都是大外商,有工廠端有service端)
其一:
顧:你這份工作期望有多少錢?
我:我現在150,我希望大於等於這個囉
顧:怎麼會這麼高...可是我這份工作最多只能給你100怎麼辦...
我:痾...差距太大的話,我就真的沒辦法了
顧:還有啊,這份工作在竹科,你現在人住台南這樣你以後怎麼辦?
我:那我就要跟家人討論非常久了喔...(好想掛電話喔...)
顧:那我有幾個問題還是要問完(然後繼續問問題,英文考試...)
我:喔..好(我超想如同掛掉銀行推銷貸款一樣掛掉)
其二:
顧:我看過你的履歷了,你的這些工作經歷,怎麼會覺得自己適合這份工作呢?
我:蛤!?不適合嗎,我還以為你很少找到這麼合適的
顧:可是我看你這些公司的產品應該跟我們這個缺...還有你的科系,
不是要物理系比較適合嗎?可是你是xx工程,怎麼會合適這個缺?
我:不然我來解釋一下好了,我待過的這幾年,這兩家公司,
就是貴司此職缺的核心技術xxx,其中這一家公司連終端產品都是貴司
最大競爭者,所以我覺得我肯定是非常合適的
(你竟然不知道你面的人的公司你競爭對手???)
我: 再來說到物理系,為何這個缺需要物理系,我願聞其詳?
顧: 主管那邊JD上面寫物理系佳...
我:我來解釋一下這個缺與產品在幹什麼的,ooxxoox,(為何我在幫HR上課?)
所以其實最合適的是材料系,我雖然不是這兩個科系,
但我已經做相關工作這麼多年了,不會比較差
顧:...喔,原來如此,那這樣的話沒有競業條款問題嗎?
我:...應該沒有吧...
其三:
顧:你好,你的預期薪資多少呢?
我:我現在170,至少要不比現在低
顧:怎麼是講年薪,我是問月薪
我:不是一樣意思嗎? 貴公司的薪資結構我也不知道是怎樣我開月薪很奇怪吧?
顧:要不然你現在底薪多少,薪資結構說說看?
我:喔....我底薪85000,保18.5+incentive
顧:怎麼會這麼高!我這個職缺哪有在要求這樣高的!而且我從沒聽過保18.5這種的
我:啊我合約書裡面就這樣寫啊...這樣很高嗎,那不然您這個缺是?
顧:我們就是保12,但是我們有一些值班津貼,也會給加班費,但這工作可能不
太需要加班,可能五六萬吧
我:這樣喔...聽起來蠻有落差的(保12也敢講?)
顧:還有啊,到職後要先去桃園on job training 半年你可以嗎?
我:這不是常態的事,應該可以吧..但薪水必須ok
顧:我們審核過後覺得你合適的話我會再通知你
我:好,謝謝(現在是誰要審核誰?我要被你刷掉了嗎T^T)
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All Comments

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明講得很開心,結果我一講大概希望多少,對方馬上
變臉,說什麼怎麼敢要求這種薪資,虧我還掏心掏肺
的講我的工作經歷

By Annie
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他傻眼 什麼鳥面試官都有…

By Adele
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薪,這樣誰要做啊

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By Agnes
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若是對方主動聯絡,直接婉拒就可以了。
而且薪資不高的公司,你以後也不會想去,拒絕沒差

By Joe
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以我為例,月薪低於30萬的公司我是不考慮的

By Ivy
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By Iris
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資待遇才去投的,是後面講到薪資的時候才驚覺情況
不對

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試試

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業一樣的水準了

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不要再想有什麼年終獎金,真的對台灣企業有種失望感

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生命,也懶得去理對方的智商了

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個錢,問我是不是從美國被外派來台灣出差的

By George
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他說有加班費跟勞健保,什麼時候勞基法的規定也變
成是公司的福利了,結果這種公司還有辦法說今年要上
市上櫃

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力有夠差的

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By Dorothy
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的電話都能match 自己身價?

By Erin
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果寫的跟給的差好幾倍,還好意思當老闆

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By Franklin
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預算不到就可以掛電話了 不用浪費時間

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程度,也不用報薪水給對方了,對方自己會報他的預
算上限來吸引你。

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肖想包含加班費

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默默結束這回合

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教這個,機構也不一定教這個,加上HR很容易受到上
面老闆的影響,再台灣用這樣的說話方式來減低求職
者的身價是滿常見到

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By John
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面試意願時,我就直接說「我期望薪資是xx,但據我
瞭解應該跟你們可以提供的有差距,可以先幫我確認
一下有沒有機會達到嗎?如果有機會我們再來約面試
」然後就沒下文了哈哈,供參

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我臉,有的現在還活著,結果我現在薪水都比那些公司
還高

By Rebecca
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問薪資水準多少就縮了說找到人才了 XD 我還遇過hun
ter打來 我教他這個職缺到底在幹嘛的 真他媽的hunt
er水準這樣 推薦的職缺是會好到哪裡去???

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By Andy
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反正判斷能力自己有 多個幫搜情報的也不壞
比起那種自以為老鳥還大老 請他介紹一下就開始擺姿
態訓話的廢物老人好多了

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By Valerie
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盡全力可能可以到3倍。我都沒30萬了,其他人不可能

By Rachel
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多神奇了吧。

By Gary
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By Daniel
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保一分鐘60秒?

By Kama
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By Andrew
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他們分析行情啦

By Sierra Rose
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By Ina
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假啦,某種程度上也算是佛心來的,歐密頭猴

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By Skylar DavisLinda
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號可以報到呢?我們公司很搶手,只能現在回覆唷!
版主:呃….謝謝你,落差太大….,可能無法接受妳
們的offer
HR: 我們的待遇是業界最好的,你確定要放棄?
版主:謝謝了,我放棄….
HR:謝謝打擾了,5萬美金月薪的確不高,希望您能找
到合適的職缺,掰掰

By Agnes
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