改革溫吞?20年後 退休公教月領5萬多 - 公職

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改革溫吞?20年後 退休公教月領5萬多
2017-01-22 10:30經濟日報 記者江睿智╱即時報導
https://udn.com/news/story/7852/2245240?from=udn-relatednews_ch2蔡政府年金改革擬砍公教18%、調降公教所得替代率,引發軍公教團體反彈上街抗爭。然
而,公教即便被調降所得替代率後,月領退休金仍是退休前實質薪資七成,20年後仍月領
有4、5萬多,是勞工平均月退1.6萬元的三倍多。
根據蔡政府改革方案,除了分六年砍掉公教18%優存,還要進一步調整公教所得替代率,
並以「本俸2倍」做為分母,「月退休金加上優存」為分子。
以35年年資為準,公教所得替代率上限先調降至75%,在15之內逐年調降1個反分點至60%
。即便降至公式的60%所得替代率,亦是退休前實質薪資所得七成。
簡言之,即便這波改革之後15年,公教退休年金仍是退休前薪資七成,仍然偏高。OECD國
家公共年金的毛所得替代率(課稅前,且以實質薪資為分母)平均約50-60%,改革後我國
公教年金所得替代率仍明顯高於OECD國家。
會有如此結果,主要是因為蔡政府將「本俸2倍」做為公教人員退休所得替代率的分母,
這個標準遠高過公教人員實質薪資。顯然地,面對軍公教團體來勢洶洶的抗議,蔡政府似
乎做了很大的妥協。
根據行政院年金辦提供資料,以一位任職35年於2011年退休的薦任七等年功六級590俸點
的非主管公務員為例,現退休後月領退金約5.6萬元,優存為6779元。在逐年砍18%及調降
所得替代率情況下試算,2018年優存降至9%,該名公務員合計仍月領5.8萬元,直至2024
年優存全部歸零,仍月領5.3萬元,之後逐年調降所得替代率,直至2038年,仍可月領近
4.7萬元。
又例如,以一位任職35年於2011年退休的625薪點的中小學教師,目前退休月領近6.7萬元
,優存領7265元,在18%逐年砍並且逐年調降所得替代率情況下試算,2018年時優存利率
降至9%、3633元,月領逾7萬元,2024年優存歸零,仍可月領6.4萬元;之後逐年調降月退
金,即便至2038年時仍可月領5.6萬元。
蔡總統一直強調,這波年金改革溫和漸進,但對照蔡政府提供的公教退休人員試表,再對
照勞工平均月領1.6萬元的窘境,有網友解嘲,「年金改革不是溫和、是溫吞
看來公教不砍到跟勞工一樣有人是不會罷休了,繳的多少不談,在職受的限制不談,
台灣正往均貧(共產)邁進無誤~~~
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一、發表轉貼新聞文章時須標明新聞來源網址及完整轉貼內容,
且禁止自行修改新聞文章標題致誤導,違者禁言15日。
二、新聞張貼數量限制:相同帳號(含分身帳號)須間隔5日。
改革溫吞?20年後 退休公教月領5萬多
2017-01-22 10:30經濟日報 記者江睿智╱即時報導
https://udn.com/news/story/7852/2245240?from=udn-relatednews_ch2蔡政府年金改革擬砍公教18%、調降公教所得替代率,引發軍公教團體反彈上街抗爭。然
而,公教即便被調降所得替代率後,月領退休金仍是退休前實質薪資七成,20年後仍月領
有4、5萬多,是勞工平均月退1.6萬元的三倍多。
根據蔡政府改革方案,除了分六年砍掉公教18%優存,還要進一步調整公教所得替代率,
並以「本俸2倍」做為分母,「月退休金加上優存」為分子。
以35年年資為準,公教所得替代率上限先調降至75%,在15之內逐年調降1個反分點至60%
。即便降至公式的60%所得替代率,亦是退休前實質薪資所得七成。
簡言之,即便這波改革之後15年,公教退休年金仍是退休前薪資七成,仍然偏高。OECD國
家公共年金的毛所得替代率(課稅前,且以實質薪資為分母)平均約50-60%,改革後我國
公教年金所得替代率仍明顯高於OECD國家。
會有如此結果,主要是因為蔡政府將「本俸2倍」做為公教人員退休所得替代率的分母,
這個標準遠高過公教人員實質薪資。顯然地,面對軍公教團體來勢洶洶的抗議,蔡政府似
乎做了很大的妥協。
根據行政院年金辦提供資料,以一位任職35年於2011年退休的薦任七等年功六級590俸點
的非主管公務員為例,現退休後月領退金約5.6萬元,優存為6779元。在逐年砍18%及調降
所得替代率情況下試算,2018年優存降至9%,該名公務員合計仍月領5.8萬元,直至2024
年優存全部歸零,仍月領5.3萬元,之後逐年調降所得替代率,直至2038年,仍可月領近
4.7萬元。
又例如,以一位任職35年於2011年退休的625薪點的中小學教師,目前退休月領近6.7萬元
,優存領7265元,在18%逐年砍並且逐年調降所得替代率情況下試算,2018年時優存利率
降至9%、3633元,月領逾7萬元,2024年優存歸零,仍可月領6.4萬元;之後逐年調降月退
金,即便至2038年時仍可月領5.6萬元。
蔡總統一直強調,這波年金改革溫和漸進,但對照蔡政府提供的公教退休人員試表,再對
照勞工平均月領1.6萬元的窘境,有網友解嘲,「年金改革不是溫和、是溫吞
看來公教不砍到跟勞工一樣有人是不會罷休了,繳的多少不談,在職受的限制不談,
台灣正往均貧(共產)邁進無誤~~~
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難道大家都要領1萬6才合理嗎

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你們會被罵,就是因為無知。以為你們是繳多才領多

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公教本來就是繳"多很多" 懷疑嗎

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By Gary
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我繳比你多,絕對沒你領的多。是制度問題。
不要瞎扯什麼「繳多領多」,你們繳太少了。

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你知道政府也要繳嗎

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制度不要那麼貪婪,不然你們真的以後領不到半毛,科科 :D
繳四千,要領五萬六。找鬼拿...

By Belly
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f大所以你一個月繳多少

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By George
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上根本責任制,完全沒分紅制死薪水就真的是死薪水,禁止兼

By Victoria
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員自己為退休做準備,至於怎麼做,就看誰能耐大囉

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By Blanche
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裝傻的不知道是誰

By Joe
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By Zenobia
at 2017-04-22T14:26
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抗議就是貪婪?這真是慣老闆的態度無誤,都給你說好了

By Eden
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By William
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By Kama
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可以開始罵對方貪婪,真方便

By Noah
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By Lauren
at 2017-04-30T15:27
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對制度不瞭解,整天只想繳四千,領五萬六。

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By Yuri
at 2017-05-16T21:39
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只會講 也拿不出數字 更不暸解制度 唉

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By Connor
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唉 幫所有軍公教QQ

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幫我們澄清。

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比照辦理 成為真正的鬼島

By Edward Lewis
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By Victoria
at 2017-06-23T13:00
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cost down的對象一定先從勞工開始,而不是其他地方別亂花

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By Noah
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By George
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By Annie
at 2017-07-08T07:52
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反應勞工真實所得是公務員責任

By Emma
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By Edith
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By Ethan
at 2017-07-18T21:17
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到1000,現在六職等每月扣個兩三千,之後月退領個勞保
兩三倍剛好而已吧!,

By Delia
at 2017-07-20T00:49
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你就讓我們大家欣賞一下閣下的"高薪"的6%,跟老闆幫你

By Bethany
at 2017-07-23T09:57
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By Madame
at 2017-07-24T18:42
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以後下一代都吃屎吧

By Vanessa
at 2017-07-25T19:14
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年金改革永遠都在迴避政府責任,績效低落,連台股大盤

By James
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By James
at 2017-07-31T18:13
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得亂七八糟,績效遠遠低於世界上先進國家年金績效。我
們不要求你要是巴非特,但連台股大盤都贏不了的話,那
要不要直接給我操作算了?

By Donna
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By Lauren
at 2017-08-03T16:50
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都拉下來跟我一樣苦,這就是垃圾台灣人的垃圾心態。

By Kelly
at 2017-08-04T17:55
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力從公的軍公教。可悲。

By Mason
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By Edith
at 2017-08-09T17:02
at 2017-08-09T17:02
只有 二萬多或三萬左右 因為老闆以後提高保費後要出18
趴中的七成 勞工出兩成 政府一成 請相關公務員以報稅年
所得去抓老闆逃漏勞保費的部份 外面勞工不是不繳而是外
頭老闆惡劣 高薪低報勞保

By Caroline
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By Hazel
at 2017-08-14T19:12
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闆只要用低底薪跟高年終把年薪補齊就好,一樣不違法,
一樣能省提撥...
制定一個提撥下限數字才是對的,當然計算基準要高於基

By Margaret
at 2017-08-16T07:25
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勞退多數員工都沒自提,但這塊反而其實是穩穩的不會倒.

By Andy
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By Noah
at 2017-08-23T19:52
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差距不大的,政府就是騙,永遠都在跟少數人鬥軍公教。

By Heather
at 2017-08-25T02:03
at 2017-08-25T02:03
有不提的選擇。

By Lily
at 2017-08-26T14:29
at 2017-08-26T14:29
稅金來推算每個月勞保費用 反正跟一例一休 一樣老闆都會
找漏洞

By Kristin
at 2017-08-29T18:36
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By Annie
at 2017-08-30T15:54
at 2017-08-30T15:54
累積到35年年資阿?有阿就是做到吐血做到死在辦公桌上

By Daph Bay
at 2017-09-04T08:21
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By Lauren
at 2017-09-09T05:08
at 2017-09-09T05:08
職的公務員繳的部份 一定比已經退休的繳的還多

By Odelette
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By Lauren
at 2017-09-10T20:07
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By Jacky
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By Puput
at 2017-09-17T11:02
at 2017-09-17T11:02
勞工有天花板 可是每個月只算兩萬多 稅單下來 年收入60

By Necoo
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By Jacob
at 2017-09-24T23:20
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By Puput
at 2017-09-28T00:00
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By Hedwig
at 2017-09-28T21:25
at 2017-09-28T21:25
麼多公保退撫

By Poppy
at 2017-09-29T04:31
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By Tristan Cohan
at 2017-10-01T22:07
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By Selena
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By Freda
at 2017-10-09T08:56
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。又幻想著砍了軍公教待遇,勞工的生活就會變好。用幻想
治國,用幻想填飽肚子就好了。

By Edward Lewis
at 2017-10-13T06:56
at 2017-10-13T06:56

By Ina
at 2017-10-17T13:27
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By Aaliyah
at 2017-10-18T07:14
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By Oliver
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By Oliver
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By Barb Cronin
at 2017-10-23T00:19
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By Enid
at 2017-10-24T06:35
at 2017-10-24T06:35
我現在每月轉一萬給你

By Aaliyah
at 2017-10-25T03:32
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By Candice
at 2017-10-27T07:45
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By Ursula
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By Susan
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By Andy
at 2017-10-30T15:04
at 2017-10-30T15:04
~問題是你有沒有搞清楚啊,年金是成立在受僱契約下的,你要
讓我聘用我才要幫你提撥啊,我家是有公司啦,你先寄履歷給
我看看,我再看要不要雇用你

By Rachel
at 2017-11-03T07:50
at 2017-11-03T07:50

By George
at 2017-11-04T13:30
at 2017-11-04T13:30
開公司沒什麼了不起

By Valerie
at 2017-11-08T03:53
at 2017-11-08T03:53
你不敢寄履歷給我,到底是誰的問題啊?別再秀下限好嗎?

By Edith
at 2017-11-11T16:28
at 2017-11-11T16:28
一點,但那差額更大,去研究好勞保退休金好不好

By Candice
at 2017-11-13T21:06
at 2017-11-13T21:06
無下限!

By Agnes
at 2017-11-18T14:53
at 2017-11-18T14:53

By Carol
at 2017-11-22T22:54
at 2017-11-22T22:54

By Queena
at 2017-11-23T11:50
at 2017-11-23T11:50
了怎麼辦

By Callum
at 2017-11-26T18:19
at 2017-11-26T18:19
4-5萬還嫌太多 那不要強制自繳 麻煩退錢

By Iris
at 2017-11-28T10:19
at 2017-11-28T10:19

By Hardy
at 2017-11-28T23:20
at 2017-11-28T23:20

By Faithe
at 2017-11-30T03:56
at 2017-11-30T03:56

By Connor
at 2017-12-02T23:06
at 2017-12-02T23:06

By Olivia
at 2017-12-03T17:10
at 2017-12-03T17:10
下!
限!

By Skylar Davis
at 2017-12-03T19:27
at 2017-12-03T19:27

By Valerie
at 2017-12-05T16:41
at 2017-12-05T16:41

By Freda
at 2017-12-09T16:30
at 2017-12-09T16:30
價

By Ethan
at 2017-12-11T11:33
at 2017-12-11T11:33

By Doris
at 2017-12-16T00:29
at 2017-12-16T00:29

By Caitlin
at 2017-12-17T05:17
at 2017-12-17T05:17

By Gary
at 2017-12-22T01:39
at 2017-12-22T01:39
現在越來越多人來這裡帶風向 這篇推文就一個

By Jake
at 2017-12-23T00:12
at 2017-12-23T00:12
繳多少,政府再負擔一部分

By Madame
at 2017-12-27T02:07
at 2017-12-27T02:07

By Zora
at 2017-12-30T00:43
at 2017-12-30T00:43
但可以領更多

By Tom
at 2018-01-02T11:52
at 2018-01-02T11:52

By Ina
at 2018-01-05T11:14
at 2018-01-05T11:14

By George
at 2018-01-07T22:50
at 2018-01-07T22:50
退休金XD

By Xanthe
at 2018-01-10T10:54
at 2018-01-10T10:54

By Mary
at 2018-01-11T20:41
at 2018-01-11T20:41

By Frederica
at 2018-01-16T18:11
at 2018-01-16T18:11

By Olga
at 2018-01-18T16:49
at 2018-01-18T16:49

By Kyle
at 2018-01-20T05:43
at 2018-01-20T05:43

By Ida
at 2018-01-22T09:57
at 2018-01-22T09:57
找的到雇主願意負擔另外那65趴就可以

By Agnes
at 2018-01-22T21:52
at 2018-01-22T21:52

By Xanthe
at 2018-01-24T21:33
at 2018-01-24T21:33

By Eden
at 2018-01-26T00:13
at 2018-01-26T00:13
歷給我,我要面試他還不敢

By Christine
at 2018-01-30T04:43
at 2018-01-30T04:43

By Olivia
at 2018-01-31T19:44
at 2018-01-31T19:44

By Madame
at 2018-02-02T10:12
at 2018-02-02T10:12

By Michael
at 2018-02-02T16:31
at 2018-02-02T16:31

By Steve
at 2018-02-05T11:30
at 2018-02-05T11:30

By Dinah
at 2018-02-09T00:43
at 2018-02-09T00:43

By Candice
at 2018-02-10T19:51
at 2018-02-10T19:51
,可笑

By Quanna
at 2018-02-14T17:36
at 2018-02-14T17:36

By Hazel
at 2018-02-15T05:57
at 2018-02-15T05:57

By Isabella
at 2018-02-17T21:55
at 2018-02-17T21:55
你十萬 但我會拿你的錢去操作 賺的進我口袋 虧的我不
撥補 不負最後給付責任 要嗎?
要的話請私

By Agnes
at 2018-02-20T09:12
at 2018-02-20T09:12

By Harry
at 2018-02-22T15:36
at 2018-02-22T15:36

By Kristin
at 2018-02-25T17:12
at 2018-02-25T17:12

By Rosalind
at 2018-02-28T15:32
at 2018-02-28T15:32

By Hedda
at 2018-03-02T03:43
at 2018-03-02T03:43

By Lydia
at 2018-03-02T08:54
at 2018-03-02T08:54

By Zenobia
at 2018-03-03T22:48
at 2018-03-03T22:48

By Rosalind
at 2018-03-05T06:07
at 2018-03-05T06:07

By Zora
at 2018-03-05T17:26
at 2018-03-05T17:26
數字來的高

By Hedda
at 2018-03-08T10:13
at 2018-03-08T10:13
找的到雇主幫你繳另外兩萬當然行
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