[新聞] 宏達電員工猝死 今解剖確認死因 … - 工程師
By Elvira
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※ 引述《nylon419 (alex)》之銘言:
: 小弟想要問一下台灣有沒有成立工程師工會啊?(打怪也有組團啊)
: 如果沒有的話為什麼沒有人敢成立呢?(參加工會=丟工作?)
: 如果成立工會搞個擺工如何?
: 資方一定會反對的, 因為他們沒得壓榨了!!
: 但勞方一定要爭取, 因為關係到自身利益!!
: 給我看看你們的力量吧!!!
這問題我也很想知道原因…
我本人雖不是工程師,但算是一直有關注科技業員工的新聞
從兩年前某家本板人人稱羨的T公司裁員風波我就有follow
當時我們一些人成立這個網站 http://www.siplra.net/
但到現在依然沒什麼人知道
我們也一直在檢討為什麼沒有成效
可能是網站做太醜、字太多人家懶得看、或者沒在更新?
(抱歉,本人是義工,做網站也不太專業 orz)
但除了這些可能原因之外,
每回一有過勞死或相關員工權益受損新聞,板上都會沸沸揚揚,
看大家群情激憤我都覺得好像很有希望…
但過一段時間風潮平息了,感覺這些事又被遺忘。
只能說,也許我們還是不夠努力
但不管外人怎樣喊燒,在吃麵的還是各位正在爆肝的工程師
工會是沒辦法由廠外的人組起來的,外人只能提供協助
這過程我有觀察到,一些似是而非的觀念
例如曾有人在板上說園區不准組工會,或者罷工要被關
這些都是假的,我也很好奇這種戒嚴時期才有的思想是哪來的 Orz
關於工會到底是什麼,還有罷工的問題,其實我們網站上有整理
http://www.siplra.net/home/union-Q-and-A
若是還不清楚,也可以在上面發問
每次我只要有機會認識園區裡的人
幾乎我都會問他工程師們為什麼不組工會?
答案不外乎是,家庭經濟壓力、怕丟了工作、怕以後黑掉等等
這些都很能理解,所以我們也希望用各種方式讓可能的風險降低
但最重要的,還是這邊的每個人,不要把上網抱怨做為你行動的終點
希望這只是你後續行動的起點…
昨天和一位去過芬蘭留學的朋友聊天
他說他在芬蘭時,政府想要開始對外國留學生收學費
芬蘭本國學生馬上起來抗爭,說「今天對他們收費,明天就換我們了!」
聽完真的很感慨,這在台灣絕對是另一副光景…
儘管知道現實如此,我們還是不放棄呼籲
希望大家能體認到,今天發生在別的勞工身上的悲劇,明天就可能淪到自己
字還是打太多了,希望各位不要直接end...
總之,多看看這網站:
籌組工會有什麼好處?
http://www.siplra.net/home/what-union-can-do-for-you
工會怎麼組?
http://www.siplra.net/home/union-how-to
最後,如果你認同的話,拜託:
http://www.siplra.net/home/union 連署一下吧!
(說拜託很奇怪,因為有沒有工會對我一點利益也無,
但站在希望改變台灣勞工弱勢處境的立場,還是拜託各位。)
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: 小弟想要問一下台灣有沒有成立工程師工會啊?(打怪也有組團啊)
: 如果沒有的話為什麼沒有人敢成立呢?(參加工會=丟工作?)
: 如果成立工會搞個擺工如何?
: 資方一定會反對的, 因為他們沒得壓榨了!!
: 但勞方一定要爭取, 因為關係到自身利益!!
: 給我看看你們的力量吧!!!
這問題我也很想知道原因…
我本人雖不是工程師,但算是一直有關注科技業員工的新聞
從兩年前某家本板人人稱羨的T公司裁員風波我就有follow
當時我們一些人成立這個網站 http://www.siplra.net/
但到現在依然沒什麼人知道
我們也一直在檢討為什麼沒有成效
可能是網站做太醜、字太多人家懶得看、或者沒在更新?
(抱歉,本人是義工,做網站也不太專業 orz)
但除了這些可能原因之外,
每回一有過勞死或相關員工權益受損新聞,板上都會沸沸揚揚,
看大家群情激憤我都覺得好像很有希望…
但過一段時間風潮平息了,感覺這些事又被遺忘。
只能說,也許我們還是不夠努力
但不管外人怎樣喊燒,在吃麵的還是各位正在爆肝的工程師
工會是沒辦法由廠外的人組起來的,外人只能提供協助
這過程我有觀察到,一些似是而非的觀念
例如曾有人在板上說園區不准組工會,或者罷工要被關
這些都是假的,我也很好奇這種戒嚴時期才有的思想是哪來的 Orz
關於工會到底是什麼,還有罷工的問題,其實我們網站上有整理
http://www.siplra.net/home/union-Q-and-A
若是還不清楚,也可以在上面發問
每次我只要有機會認識園區裡的人
幾乎我都會問他工程師們為什麼不組工會?
答案不外乎是,家庭經濟壓力、怕丟了工作、怕以後黑掉等等
這些都很能理解,所以我們也希望用各種方式讓可能的風險降低
但最重要的,還是這邊的每個人,不要把上網抱怨做為你行動的終點
希望這只是你後續行動的起點…
昨天和一位去過芬蘭留學的朋友聊天
他說他在芬蘭時,政府想要開始對外國留學生收學費
芬蘭本國學生馬上起來抗爭,說「今天對他們收費,明天就換我們了!」
聽完真的很感慨,這在台灣絕對是另一副光景…
儘管知道現實如此,我們還是不放棄呼籲
希望大家能體認到,今天發生在別的勞工身上的悲劇,明天就可能淪到自己
字還是打太多了,希望各位不要直接end...
總之,多看看這網站:
籌組工會有什麼好處?
http://www.siplra.net/home/what-union-can-do-for-you
工會怎麼組?
http://www.siplra.net/home/union-how-to
最後,如果你認同的話,拜託:
http://www.siplra.net/home/union 連署一下吧!
(說拜託很奇怪,因為有沒有工會對我一點利益也無,
但站在希望改變台灣勞工弱勢處境的立場,還是拜託各位。)
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