月薪沒4萬不做被罵眼高手低 名校理工生 - 求職

By Madame
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月薪沒4萬不做被罵眼高手低 名校理工生不服:這社會奴啊
https://www.setn.com/News.aspx?NewsID=1093733
生活中心/鄭餘蓉報導
近年來,台灣年輕人面臨嚴重的低薪問題,萬物齊漲,唯獨薪水不漲。一名男大生今年即
將從大學畢業,認為擁有前4大工學院學歷的自己,算是該領域的「中上層」人才,希望
能找到工時正常且待遇合理的工作,月薪至少要4萬元,否則無法接受,結果反被罵「眼
高手低」,讓他覺得莫名其妙,忍不住嘆「奴啊!這社會奴啊!」
該名男大生在網路論壇《Dcard》表示,他今年即將從大學畢業,希望找一份喜歡的工作
,離家近,待遇要合理,工時要正常,「至於這個待遇合理呢,我覺得沒月薪4萬我完全
不能接受。物價相較10年前漲了1.5倍有了,當時最低薪資起薪22K,如今也該有30K才對
,稍微有點專業的工作,要求40K以上不過分吧。」
男大生認為,他也是靠自己努力才唸到前4大工學院,論能力也算是領域中上層的人才,
沒想到最近跟家人分享求職條件時,卻被碎唸「你不要眼高手低」,讓他十分不解,忍不
住感嘆「奴啊,這社會奴啊」。
貼文一出隨即引發熱烈討論,有網友認同,「4大(工學院)沒4萬很誇張欸」、「台灣是
資方天堂」、「公司培訓新人不是基本的嗎,有一些基本福利就講得公司好像有多偉大,
只能說資方都是被奴工們寵出來的」、「我非4大資工學士剛畢業都有45K了」、「新鮮人
不能要求薪水?這什麼奴性想法,難怪一些要求一堆、工時又長的工作敢開基本薪資」、
「工學院學士第1份工作45K(非科技業),找大一點的科技公司比較有機會,其他的加一
加1個月5、60k以上很常見」。
還有人說,「我覺得每個人都有心中的價、不去求全是對的,不然進去也是難過,如果深
信自己值得這個價就繼續下去。資方不出這價也只是資方認爲你不值這個價而已,買賣不
成仁義在,繼續多找幾間吧」。
但也有網友認為,學歷不一定等同於工作能力,況且剛畢業缺乏實操經驗或實質成果,很
難有籌碼談論薪酬待遇,「新鮮人最難做到的是價值體現,你沒辦法量化你的貢獻,公司
當然不能衡量你的薪資」、「很多工作要的是相關經歷,你可以馬上上手,如果是社會新
鮮人,進來什麼都不會就要領4萬?」、「我覺得是你的態度吧,對自己有著滿滿的自信
但卻沒有很實質的證明」;
對於上述質疑,發文男大生霸氣回應「因為我覺得要求40k不需要什麼自信,那是基本待
遇」。
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https://www.setn.com/News.aspx?NewsID=1093733
生活中心/鄭餘蓉報導
近年來,台灣年輕人面臨嚴重的低薪問題,萬物齊漲,唯獨薪水不漲。一名男大生今年即
將從大學畢業,認為擁有前4大工學院學歷的自己,算是該領域的「中上層」人才,希望
能找到工時正常且待遇合理的工作,月薪至少要4萬元,否則無法接受,結果反被罵「眼
高手低」,讓他覺得莫名其妙,忍不住嘆「奴啊!這社會奴啊!」
該名男大生在網路論壇《Dcard》表示,他今年即將從大學畢業,希望找一份喜歡的工作
,離家近,待遇要合理,工時要正常,「至於這個待遇合理呢,我覺得沒月薪4萬我完全
不能接受。物價相較10年前漲了1.5倍有了,當時最低薪資起薪22K,如今也該有30K才對
,稍微有點專業的工作,要求40K以上不過分吧。」
男大生認為,他也是靠自己努力才唸到前4大工學院,論能力也算是領域中上層的人才,
沒想到最近跟家人分享求職條件時,卻被碎唸「你不要眼高手低」,讓他十分不解,忍不
住感嘆「奴啊,這社會奴啊」。
貼文一出隨即引發熱烈討論,有網友認同,「4大(工學院)沒4萬很誇張欸」、「台灣是
資方天堂」、「公司培訓新人不是基本的嗎,有一些基本福利就講得公司好像有多偉大,
只能說資方都是被奴工們寵出來的」、「我非4大資工學士剛畢業都有45K了」、「新鮮人
不能要求薪水?這什麼奴性想法,難怪一些要求一堆、工時又長的工作敢開基本薪資」、
「工學院學士第1份工作45K(非科技業),找大一點的科技公司比較有機會,其他的加一
加1個月5、60k以上很常見」。
還有人說,「我覺得每個人都有心中的價、不去求全是對的,不然進去也是難過,如果深
信自己值得這個價就繼續下去。資方不出這價也只是資方認爲你不值這個價而已,買賣不
成仁義在,繼續多找幾間吧」。
但也有網友認為,學歷不一定等同於工作能力,況且剛畢業缺乏實操經驗或實質成果,很
難有籌碼談論薪酬待遇,「新鮮人最難做到的是價值體現,你沒辦法量化你的貢獻,公司
當然不能衡量你的薪資」、「很多工作要的是相關經歷,你可以馬上上手,如果是社會新
鮮人,進來什麼都不會就要領4萬?」、「我覺得是你的態度吧,對自己有著滿滿的自信
但卻沒有很實質的證明」;
對於上述質疑,發文男大生霸氣回應「因為我覺得要求40k不需要什麼自信,那是基本待
遇」。
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By Zora
at 2022-04-04T21:04
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By Olivia
at 2022-04-05T21:39
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這樣胃口被養大,只會專注在錢上,而不是專注自己
學到多少,通常這種環境出來的養成實力有限

By Audriana
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By Donna
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By Bethany
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By Hamiltion
at 2022-04-09T23:58
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通常都是慣老闆拿來唬人的話術

By Wallis
at 2022-04-09T23:26
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這是垃圾工作自然給少點薪水
重要工作還是垃圾工作哪個成長性高還需要想嗎

By Frederica
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By Carolina Franco
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By Mia
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*低

By Tom
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啦

By Heather
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By Quanna
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By Candice
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By Franklin
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就是工作沒成長性才薪水爛啊

By Tom
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By Damian
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階層講這種話,真的夠奴

By Dinah
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個外星的邏輯?

By Valerie
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,老闆自己就會請你走路了

By Xanthe
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By Thomas
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就不會因為錢分心了 你覺得怎麼樣?

By Oliver
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By Ivy
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By Jake
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By Jacob
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By Mary
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By Caroline
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更專心工作啊

By Caroline
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By Emily
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By William
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法,學的越多錢不會越多喔

By Kumar
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By Dora
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By Ina
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為了錢?不是為了錢工作的人全都被通膨高房價打垮了
。活下來的人當然就只是為了錢

By Kelly
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年看得見

By Anonymous
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By Hedda
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By Candice
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人後來又孬種不吭聲的那位認識嗎?XD

By Kyle
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By Daph Bay
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道歉吧

By Elma
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師 領42k 四大的學歷更高領更多不是難事吧

By Oscar
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By Dorothy
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By Hardy
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一千萬。很難

By Elma
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By Heather
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By Ethan
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By Sarah
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By Damian
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明的事

By Skylar Davis
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浪費時間

By Bethany
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By William
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By Hedwig
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By Damian
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By Elizabeth
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好公司了,請問哪裡高就?

By Hedy
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By Eartha
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By Donna
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By Christine
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By Tristan Cohan
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因為這社會多數人不是四大

By Andy
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By Hedwig
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By Una
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By Mason
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By Candice
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By Charlie
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By Frederic
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謝主隆恩

By Joseph
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,能越賺越多的當然專注在賺錢啊,公司更賺他薪水才
會更高,不然你公司快倒了還一直幫員工升薪水嗎?

By Edwina
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By John
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By Enid
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By Suhail Hany
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By Damian
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By Kristin
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的是一群廢物

By Suhail Hany
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到達這個薪水

By Suhail Hany
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By Callum
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By Carol
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By Ina
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二樓在說啥x話

By Anonymous
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By Kumar
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By Blanche
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做善事做功德 不是更好???

By Ula
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By Catherine
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By Kumar
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By Heather
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By Kyle
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長

By Jacky
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陸委會有中共間諜在裡面。

By Rebecca
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By Queena
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By Jake
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續在家投其他履歷吧

By Anthony
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By Caroline
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樓了

By Jacky
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By Elvira
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By Hardy
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By Ursula
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摳嗎?

By Rosalind
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讀錯系而已啦

By Xanthe
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就不屑做,這無關學歷吧

By Kelly
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By Rebecca
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By David
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By Necoo
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By Elma
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清交成只有這樣,台灣是不是差不多涼了?

By Sarah
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By Jacky
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要就乖乖蹲 不然就別來洗資歷惹

By Olivia
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By Ethan
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麼多人回這篇...

By Hedwig
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能挑的

By Christine
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By Kumar
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By Charlie
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By Hedwig
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By Kelly
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By Aaliyah
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試試也合理

By Tristan Cohan
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