系統廠主任工程師月薪天花板 - 工程師
By Freda
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※ 引述《redbeansyrup (紅豆湯)》之銘言:
: 這邊提到系統廠一神帶十鬼
: 講白就是一群據點兵長
: 有一點很有趣
: 現在的TurnKey 大概都是列個單子給你
: 跟你說用這家這家那家那家的料
: 我們可以跟你保證怎麼樣怎麼樣
: 用了不在單子上的料,就後果自負
: 但如果說為了市場差異化
: 需要用特別的料,系統廠還是要自己搞定
: 全部都靠turnkey搞出來的產品
: 根本和複製人沒兩樣
: 講得好像買了turnkey就能躺著出貨
: 這是不是怪怪的啊
當然怪啊
首先要知道 台灣系統廠創造利潤的思維 尤其代工
以喝水比喻好了
神山GG: 要喝水是吧 你他媽我直接建水庫
系統代工廠: 要喝水是吧 濕毛巾擰出來啊
所以很清楚知道 台灣系統代工廠的利潤 基本上是靠降成本省出來的
再來
豬屎屋為了把自家IC性能極限化 一定會採用頂級的料
所以Datasheet的數值 都是頂級料測出來的
那再想 頂級的料 錢就貴 這跟系統廠看重成本的天條違背
怎麼可能讓你用? 光Review BOM Cost 你就被電到焦阿巴了
所以你會覺得
買了turnkey就躺著出貨
這句話好像哪裡怪怪 是很正常
因為真實系統廠 根本就沒有這種好事
都需要用特別的料 所以系統廠還是要自己搞定
抱歉! 我少打一個字
需要用特別的料 => 需要用特別爛的料
至於call FAE 這也不完全對
FAE要不要支援 要看你出貨量
代工廠出貨量要大 一定得是大客戶 大客戶多半不太會讓你用爛料
換言之 會用爛料的案子 基本上不會是啥大客戶
出貨量就少 那FAE當然不會鳥你 那就是你工程師自己搞定
所以 真實的代工系統廠
不是用頂級資源 去打造100分的產品
而是用有限又破爛資源 去打造60分的產品
工程師真正搏鬥的 從來都不是技術 而是成本
這就是為啥 系統廠明明技術含量不高
但依然需要養一堆工程師的原因
因為技術以外的事 遠比技術本身 要多得多
--
: 這邊提到系統廠一神帶十鬼
: 講白就是一群據點兵長
: 有一點很有趣
: 現在的TurnKey 大概都是列個單子給你
: 跟你說用這家這家那家那家的料
: 我們可以跟你保證怎麼樣怎麼樣
: 用了不在單子上的料,就後果自負
: 但如果說為了市場差異化
: 需要用特別的料,系統廠還是要自己搞定
: 全部都靠turnkey搞出來的產品
: 根本和複製人沒兩樣
: 講得好像買了turnkey就能躺著出貨
: 這是不是怪怪的啊
當然怪啊
首先要知道 台灣系統廠創造利潤的思維 尤其代工
以喝水比喻好了
神山GG: 要喝水是吧 你他媽我直接建水庫
系統代工廠: 要喝水是吧 濕毛巾擰出來啊
所以很清楚知道 台灣系統代工廠的利潤 基本上是靠降成本省出來的
再來
豬屎屋為了把自家IC性能極限化 一定會採用頂級的料
所以Datasheet的數值 都是頂級料測出來的
那再想 頂級的料 錢就貴 這跟系統廠看重成本的天條違背
怎麼可能讓你用? 光Review BOM Cost 你就被電到焦阿巴了
所以你會覺得
買了turnkey就躺著出貨
這句話好像哪裡怪怪 是很正常
因為真實系統廠 根本就沒有這種好事
都需要用特別的料 所以系統廠還是要自己搞定
抱歉! 我少打一個字
需要用特別的料 => 需要用特別爛的料
至於call FAE 這也不完全對
FAE要不要支援 要看你出貨量
代工廠出貨量要大 一定得是大客戶 大客戶多半不太會讓你用爛料
換言之 會用爛料的案子 基本上不會是啥大客戶
出貨量就少 那FAE當然不會鳥你 那就是你工程師自己搞定
所以 真實的代工系統廠
不是用頂級資源 去打造100分的產品
而是用有限又破爛資源 去打造60分的產品
工程師真正搏鬥的 從來都不是技術 而是成本
這就是為啥 系統廠明明技術含量不高
但依然需要養一堆工程師的原因
因為技術以外的事 遠比技術本身 要多得多
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