給PHD同道的科技業求職分享 - 面試
By Elizabeth
at 2015-04-28T22:41
at 2015-04-28T22:41
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寫在文章前,由於我的面試經驗都很怪,
或許是PHD的缺都比較特異?所以可能無法當成通例分享,
但保證是活生生的實際例子,
我想可以給在找業界工作的PHD朋友了解2015年初電類博找工作的狀況
先介紹我的學經歷,
地名高中,115電機,112電子碩,112電子博,
領域偏固態+奈米技術,有加入台積7-5奈米節點計畫,
當初想走學術,有比較認真寫paper,
SCI一作12篇,全部共24篇,文章領域排名落在前5%~15%,
會議大概50篇,專利3+1(pending),
當初聽人說PHD難找工作總是不信,
"沒有不景氣,只有不爭氣",當初我算是這話的忠誠信徒,
一畢業,在學長介紹下,馬上得到兩個對岸的面試邀請,
一個業界,一個學界,也都是各自的龍頭單位,
skype面完後,都要我飛對岸再面談,
那時自以為搶手,東嫌西嫌後都推掉了,
(業界那個是嫌北京空氣髒;學界是嫌他們的PI制度類似日本,新PI沒研究主導權)
總之就先留在台灣某研究單位作博後,等等機會,
首先是找教職,鎖定非靈界學校投了兩間試試水溫,兩間分別是我的上下限,
好的那間沒回音正常,土博呀,也沒國外經歷,
再等了幾個月,下限那間也沒回音,那時我開始有點慌了,
想說要去國外幾年,補個博後經歷,
轉念又想"碼的PHD唸完都30了,再去博後,人生啥時開始?"
罷罷罷,決心轉往業界,自以為前途一片光明,
殊不知此時才是我一連串痛苦挫敗自我懷疑的開始,
填了104,GG馬上就來電約了年前的面試,
"看,果然只有不爭氣吧",整個騎著小毛驢心裡真得意,
到了面試,只能說整個過程真的非常愉快,專業幾乎沒問,只零星談了下自己的研究,
當下愉快到出了12廠,我已經開始思考新竹要住哪,
年前沒回應,我跟自己說"哀呀,過年呀,遲些正常",
年後也沒回應,約莫一個多月後來了感謝函.............
感謝函也不讓人崩潰,重點是中間完全沒有其他公司的面試機會,完全,
加上當初也跟任職博後單位的PI說就做到四五月,
事到如今實在是拉不下臉去拜託老闆續約,老天爺我真的失業在即,
被嚇到的我開始完全不管親疏遠近的跟在業界的學長學弟哀,
於是終於迎來我人生的第二場面試,華亞電,
進去做了性向測驗、基本學科,接著連兩場面談,
其中第二位的經理有一點小淵源,整個面試流程超愉快啊,
勾肩搭背的,經理完是處長,經理跑出去一陣子回來跟我說處長在開會,
要我再跟人資約,心想說這成了吧,
自己跟跟自己說,雖然華亞電薪水不優(54000+112電子博加給,合計略小於60000),
但考量台塑體系穩穩也不賴,
結果.........無聲卡,
中間傻傻打了電話問人資,我和處長的面談會訂在何時,
人資只是笑笑回我說"上面沒說,但其實也不一定會有啊",
沒在人間走跳過的我,當下心理整個小受傷,
難道這世界只有我覺得真的會有處長面試,那天處長真的只是剛好在開會?
心靈受創的我更積極去跟親朋好友哀了,
不知道是不是給我哀到受不了,
GG的學弟跟我說他老闆對我有興趣,雖然現在沒RD缺,但會找時間跟我談談,
"喔喔,終於有人欣賞我了"
結果........無聲卡,更蝦的是還有機個學弟相繼來問我那個學弟幫我內推的結果......
後來讚讚讚的包子打來了,但是是台南的包子,算算交通費就作罷.......
中間也跟戀人跟工研院的人哀過,都還不到人資就都被告知沒缺,
這時真的起肚爛,開始使用惡勢力跟特殊關係,
一是請認識的黨國大老請經濟部轄下法人單位國會聯絡人幫找缺,
同時也讓相熟的學長把履歷直接送到一起發表過paper的法人單位大主管的桌上,
哀,總之也是無聲無息,
總之除了繼續每天上104按投履歷外,也不斷跟每個見到的朋友哀,
終於迎來了下個面試,這是跟我休戚相關的大學長當研發處長的大公司,
休戚相關到不適合在這直接講,
想說這是最後一步棋,本來實在不想再當應聲蟲小太監了,
但跟失業的恐懼相比,捧捧LP也算了,
結果,又是一張無聲卡,
大學長研發處長只跟我說他還沒站穩,不敢太硬著來,
我跟他太密切,直接帶我進去怕惹人非議,
哀............
這月中,黑暗勢力找上我了,認識的黨國大老要我去幫他....
哀,我的道德底線要倒退到什麼地步呢?
但失業的壓力讓我請他再等我兩禮拜,
終於,某個被我ASML的學長極推薦的上市小公司來找我了,
(學長說台灣目前只有這家小公司跟台積有跟他們大量買設備....)
一拍即合,過了三關,談完薪水就決定去了,
(中間有段插曲是協理面試時跟我說"我覺得你很優秀,但是你一定學學就走了",
這話讓我心驚膽戰一禮拜啊,想說又要掛了,終究要去當黨國大老的走狗了.......)
本來想說小公司是自己找上我的,後來才從處長那得知是那ASML學長幫我推薦的,
我這時才意識到,除了GG和南亞電,我沒有一場面試不是靠朋友學長推薦的,
找工作期間每天到techjob版看文章,
想從裡面找出些許PHD找工作的法門,但只有一片不知所措而已,
這陣子也跟許多博後想轉業界的學長們談,
才發現從去年9月、10月開履歷,
迄今完全沒面試的學長竟然完全不是少數,全部都是112、113、114工程博,
所以,給找沒適合的工作PHD同道,你絕對不是少數,不要自我懷疑,
然後給想念PHD的學弟,國外不敢說,國內的話,請瘋狂廣結善緣,
至少要不是我一直待在大型lab多少認識些人,
今天大概真的兩個月內,只得到兩個面試,還都掛了....
另外有一點我也沒在板上聽人提過,我完全沒被問過應徵工作上的專業問題,
就全部閒聊,或許是PHD找工作的常態?
--
或許是PHD的缺都比較特異?所以可能無法當成通例分享,
但保證是活生生的實際例子,
我想可以給在找業界工作的PHD朋友了解2015年初電類博找工作的狀況
先介紹我的學經歷,
地名高中,115電機,112電子碩,112電子博,
領域偏固態+奈米技術,有加入台積7-5奈米節點計畫,
當初想走學術,有比較認真寫paper,
SCI一作12篇,全部共24篇,文章領域排名落在前5%~15%,
會議大概50篇,專利3+1(pending),
當初聽人說PHD難找工作總是不信,
"沒有不景氣,只有不爭氣",當初我算是這話的忠誠信徒,
一畢業,在學長介紹下,馬上得到兩個對岸的面試邀請,
一個業界,一個學界,也都是各自的龍頭單位,
skype面完後,都要我飛對岸再面談,
那時自以為搶手,東嫌西嫌後都推掉了,
(業界那個是嫌北京空氣髒;學界是嫌他們的PI制度類似日本,新PI沒研究主導權)
總之就先留在台灣某研究單位作博後,等等機會,
首先是找教職,鎖定非靈界學校投了兩間試試水溫,兩間分別是我的上下限,
好的那間沒回音正常,土博呀,也沒國外經歷,
再等了幾個月,下限那間也沒回音,那時我開始有點慌了,
想說要去國外幾年,補個博後經歷,
轉念又想"碼的PHD唸完都30了,再去博後,人生啥時開始?"
罷罷罷,決心轉往業界,自以為前途一片光明,
殊不知此時才是我一連串痛苦挫敗自我懷疑的開始,
填了104,GG馬上就來電約了年前的面試,
"看,果然只有不爭氣吧",整個騎著小毛驢心裡真得意,
到了面試,只能說整個過程真的非常愉快,專業幾乎沒問,只零星談了下自己的研究,
當下愉快到出了12廠,我已經開始思考新竹要住哪,
年前沒回應,我跟自己說"哀呀,過年呀,遲些正常",
年後也沒回應,約莫一個多月後來了感謝函.............
感謝函也不讓人崩潰,重點是中間完全沒有其他公司的面試機會,完全,
加上當初也跟任職博後單位的PI說就做到四五月,
事到如今實在是拉不下臉去拜託老闆續約,老天爺我真的失業在即,
被嚇到的我開始完全不管親疏遠近的跟在業界的學長學弟哀,
於是終於迎來我人生的第二場面試,華亞電,
進去做了性向測驗、基本學科,接著連兩場面談,
其中第二位的經理有一點小淵源,整個面試流程超愉快啊,
勾肩搭背的,經理完是處長,經理跑出去一陣子回來跟我說處長在開會,
要我再跟人資約,心想說這成了吧,
自己跟跟自己說,雖然華亞電薪水不優(54000+112電子博加給,合計略小於60000),
但考量台塑體系穩穩也不賴,
結果.........無聲卡,
中間傻傻打了電話問人資,我和處長的面談會訂在何時,
人資只是笑笑回我說"上面沒說,但其實也不一定會有啊",
沒在人間走跳過的我,當下心理整個小受傷,
難道這世界只有我覺得真的會有處長面試,那天處長真的只是剛好在開會?
心靈受創的我更積極去跟親朋好友哀了,
不知道是不是給我哀到受不了,
GG的學弟跟我說他老闆對我有興趣,雖然現在沒RD缺,但會找時間跟我談談,
"喔喔,終於有人欣賞我了"
結果........無聲卡,更蝦的是還有機個學弟相繼來問我那個學弟幫我內推的結果......
後來讚讚讚的包子打來了,但是是台南的包子,算算交通費就作罷.......
中間也跟戀人跟工研院的人哀過,都還不到人資就都被告知沒缺,
這時真的起肚爛,開始使用惡勢力跟特殊關係,
一是請認識的黨國大老請經濟部轄下法人單位國會聯絡人幫找缺,
同時也讓相熟的學長把履歷直接送到一起發表過paper的法人單位大主管的桌上,
哀,總之也是無聲無息,
總之除了繼續每天上104按投履歷外,也不斷跟每個見到的朋友哀,
終於迎來了下個面試,這是跟我休戚相關的大學長當研發處長的大公司,
休戚相關到不適合在這直接講,
想說這是最後一步棋,本來實在不想再當應聲蟲小太監了,
但跟失業的恐懼相比,捧捧LP也算了,
結果,又是一張無聲卡,
大學長研發處長只跟我說他還沒站穩,不敢太硬著來,
我跟他太密切,直接帶我進去怕惹人非議,
哀............
這月中,黑暗勢力找上我了,認識的黨國大老要我去幫他....
哀,我的道德底線要倒退到什麼地步呢?
但失業的壓力讓我請他再等我兩禮拜,
終於,某個被我ASML的學長極推薦的上市小公司來找我了,
(學長說台灣目前只有這家小公司跟台積有跟他們大量買設備....)
一拍即合,過了三關,談完薪水就決定去了,
(中間有段插曲是協理面試時跟我說"我覺得你很優秀,但是你一定學學就走了",
這話讓我心驚膽戰一禮拜啊,想說又要掛了,終究要去當黨國大老的走狗了.......)
本來想說小公司是自己找上我的,後來才從處長那得知是那ASML學長幫我推薦的,
我這時才意識到,除了GG和南亞電,我沒有一場面試不是靠朋友學長推薦的,
找工作期間每天到techjob版看文章,
想從裡面找出些許PHD找工作的法門,但只有一片不知所措而已,
這陣子也跟許多博後想轉業界的學長們談,
才發現從去年9月、10月開履歷,
迄今完全沒面試的學長竟然完全不是少數,全部都是112、113、114工程博,
所以,給找沒適合的工作PHD同道,你絕對不是少數,不要自我懷疑,
然後給想念PHD的學弟,國外不敢說,國內的話,請瘋狂廣結善緣,
至少要不是我一直待在大型lab多少認識些人,
今天大概真的兩個月內,只得到兩個面試,還都掛了....
另外有一點我也沒在板上聽人提過,我完全沒被問過應徵工作上的專業問題,
就全部閒聊,或許是PHD找工作的常態?
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