華碩工作十年經驗PM開5萬8 - 工程師
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By Doris
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Table of Contents
※ 引述《eeemin (eeemin)》之銘言:
: 小弟112碩畢 工作10年經驗
: 在某領域world wide市佔率第一的外商待過5年
: 想說轉換環境 華碩邀面試 也就去了
: 一進去二話不說 先考一個小時的試
: 接下來等20分鐘hr的人來面試
: 之後轉去別的地點做單位主管面試
: 人到櫃檯請櫃檯通知 沒想到等1小時 單位主管姍姍來遲
: 主管事前已知有面試行程 真的是不懂尊重人
: 然後對自己要賣去的歐洲市場也不了解
: 然後面試完畢 從一點開始面試 此時已經是6點
: 吃過飯等BU Head 面試 出來是8點
: 2個禮拜後說要聯絡我前主管
: 第3個禮拜打給我說 開5萬8 保障14個月
: 不先給offer letter
: 確定一定會報到才能夠給
: 整個談話流程 給我的感覺就是我們是大公司
: 我們必須嚴格審核你 你來求我們工作
: 台商都習慣問之前工作薪資
: 如果你之前只有40 那我只需給你40
: 如果你之前1百多 我還是可以很微笑的開5萬8
: 現在的HR到底怎麼了?
: 給行情價一半不到的價碼 在world wide又是tier 3的公司
: 求職者客氣 但是不代表求職者不懂行情
這種事 以前跟hr談過
國內系統廠的hr思維(也就是他們取得業績的方法) 大致如下
一方面 必然是先參考你原本「月薪」 多 3k~5k range
(如果主管想用的話)
二方面 如果原本是外商 月薪比平均同年資的工程師高
那他只會開同年資的工程師薪水給你
例如 新人開43k 每年薪資幅度 3%~6%來看 平均一年加薪1.5k
10年大致加薪15k 所以他開58k是這樣算出來的
第三 是不是因為你有外商資歷就可以談更高? 當然不是
否則不是鼓勵大家跳槽不忠誠嗎?
第四 他很希望你來嗎? 答案是還好
hr心裡想的是 你來的機率50% 一個月薪兩倍以上的外商人材
會淪落到系統廠 肯定不是混的很好 我不需要開高價就有機會用到你
就算你不來 一樣有其它3~5年資歷的人可用
因為pm用起來就差不多 3~5年跟10年 沒什不同
--
: 小弟112碩畢 工作10年經驗
: 在某領域world wide市佔率第一的外商待過5年
: 想說轉換環境 華碩邀面試 也就去了
: 一進去二話不說 先考一個小時的試
: 接下來等20分鐘hr的人來面試
: 之後轉去別的地點做單位主管面試
: 人到櫃檯請櫃檯通知 沒想到等1小時 單位主管姍姍來遲
: 主管事前已知有面試行程 真的是不懂尊重人
: 然後對自己要賣去的歐洲市場也不了解
: 然後面試完畢 從一點開始面試 此時已經是6點
: 吃過飯等BU Head 面試 出來是8點
: 2個禮拜後說要聯絡我前主管
: 第3個禮拜打給我說 開5萬8 保障14個月
: 不先給offer letter
: 確定一定會報到才能夠給
: 整個談話流程 給我的感覺就是我們是大公司
: 我們必須嚴格審核你 你來求我們工作
: 台商都習慣問之前工作薪資
: 如果你之前只有40 那我只需給你40
: 如果你之前1百多 我還是可以很微笑的開5萬8
: 現在的HR到底怎麼了?
: 給行情價一半不到的價碼 在world wide又是tier 3的公司
: 求職者客氣 但是不代表求職者不懂行情
這種事 以前跟hr談過
國內系統廠的hr思維(也就是他們取得業績的方法) 大致如下
一方面 必然是先參考你原本「月薪」 多 3k~5k range
(如果主管想用的話)
二方面 如果原本是外商 月薪比平均同年資的工程師高
那他只會開同年資的工程師薪水給你
例如 新人開43k 每年薪資幅度 3%~6%來看 平均一年加薪1.5k
10年大致加薪15k 所以他開58k是這樣算出來的
第三 是不是因為你有外商資歷就可以談更高? 當然不是
否則不是鼓勵大家跳槽不忠誠嗎?
第四 他很希望你來嗎? 答案是還好
hr心裡想的是 你來的機率50% 一個月薪兩倍以上的外商人材
會淪落到系統廠 肯定不是混的很好 我不需要開高價就有機會用到你
就算你不來 一樣有其它3~5年資歷的人可用
因為pm用起來就差不多 3~5年跟10年 沒什不同
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