豬屎屋十幾年 - 工程師
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※ 引述《panson (潘神)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《ice9999 (平凡)》之銘言:
: : 豬屎屋十幾年
: : 一開始連PTT帳號也沒有,一直都不太清楚別人的薪水/獎金
: : 每次調薪或發獎金,都覺得好多好高興
: : 非4大碩,腦袋沒別人聰明,只知道傻傻做
: : 沒有比較沒有傷害,有時候會想,如果一開始就看這個版
: : 羡慕別人薪水,整天想跳槽,覺得公司虧待,很可能就不是現在的我了
: : (愈是看到別人的薪水,愈有這想法)
: : 第一份工作是小豬屎屋,第二份工作是比較有名氣的豬屎屋
: : 二份工作到後期都有受重用(帶人),覺得如果還年輕 真的不用太在意薪水
: : 提昇能力比較重要,
: : 看看老闆/學長會什麼事是你做不到的,別人為什麼這麼想,多懷疑/多求證
: : 不要把別人的知識/經驗 當成理所當然
: : 有記帳的習慣,回頭看以前的薪水 一開始還真的蠻少的
: : 現在碩士起薪都7~8萬了,這工作還是需要一點錢以外的熱情
: : 以下數字有略微向下調整,以免被看出來
: : 月薪 年薪
: : 42000
: : 42600 577000
: : 46500 618000 升遷
: : 51400 678000
: : 65900 813000 升遷
: : 67900 927000 換工作
: : 降級,打回資深工程師
: : 70700 1097000
: : 83400 1525000 結構
: : 89000 1706000
: : 95400 2008000 升遷
: : 101500 2144000
: : 108400 2598000
: : 126100 3044000 結構
: : 133400 3209000 升遷
: : 140700 3320000
: : 147500 3464000
: : 154600 3789000 升遷
: : 160000 4600000
: : 166000 5800000
: 這篇文章是不是不符合 PTT 的普世價值啊
: 原 PO 這樣算下來年資至少 18 年多了
: 用碩畢來算 24 + 18 至少 42 歲了
: 說好的工程師 30 歲賣完肝就會被裁員呢?PTT 鄉民都是這麼吹的欸
: 同時 PTT 鄉民也堅信醫牙畢業屌打工程師
: 工程師怎麼可能拿快 600 萬!比醫牙還多
: 完全不符合科技版 八卦版的普世價值吧
我31歲目前是診所受僱醫啦
工程師百百種 醫師也百百種,不同科別和待在不同層級的醫院或是診所,在診所是受僱
還是開業差異都不小
我就以一般在路上最常見的感冒科,裡面的受僱醫師來討論,看感冒幾乎什麼科都可以,
沒什麼技術門檻,收入相對偏低
能考上醫學系的族群,一般選二類的話可以上四大電資,碩士畢業出來進一線大廠應該沒
問題,所以比較的對象是一線大廠工程師
先說結論,感冒科診所受僱醫的地板比科技大廠工程師高,但天花板遠比工程師低
醫學系畢業多數會在醫院蹲個幾年,目前是PGY2年,住院醫師3-6年,年薪多在100-200萬
看科別,其實在這階段已經小輸大廠的工程師了,更不用說算時薪,在醫院一週上70-80
小時的班很正常
但醫師約在29-32歲拿到專科後,出來診所會有一個較大幅度的提升,以感冒科來說,時
薪大概2000-2500,看起來好像不錯,但在我學生時開始觀察了10年來都差不多,基本工
資都調多少了,而且醫療業是夕陽產業,沒往下調就不錯了
像我在28歲最後一年住院醫師年薪約140w,29歲拿到專科出來診所後開始衝節數,想賺多
就是多做多兼差
一天早中晚三個時段,一週七天共21個時段,一個時段約3-4小時,有本事跟幾家診所喬
好時間,一週跟一般公司一樣上40小時就好,40x2000~2500=80000~100000,一個月就約4
0萬了
所以我29歲年薪直接跳470萬,30歲更是火力全開,一週上七天,年薪580萬
然後呢?就衝上不去去了,每天看差不多的病,講差不多的話,開差不多的藥,我職業倦
怠感愈來愈嚴重,今年開始減少看診時數,時薪也不會上調,預計今年會少賺60萬
但是科技大廠,當到中高階主管年薪破千萬的多的是,而且現在如日中天,整體產業還有
往上的空間,醫療業則是因健保的限制,加上醫學系愈開愈多間,已經是夕陽產業了
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: ※ 引述《ice9999 (平凡)》之銘言:
: : 豬屎屋十幾年
: : 一開始連PTT帳號也沒有,一直都不太清楚別人的薪水/獎金
: : 每次調薪或發獎金,都覺得好多好高興
: : 非4大碩,腦袋沒別人聰明,只知道傻傻做
: : 沒有比較沒有傷害,有時候會想,如果一開始就看這個版
: : 羡慕別人薪水,整天想跳槽,覺得公司虧待,很可能就不是現在的我了
: : (愈是看到別人的薪水,愈有這想法)
: : 第一份工作是小豬屎屋,第二份工作是比較有名氣的豬屎屋
: : 二份工作到後期都有受重用(帶人),覺得如果還年輕 真的不用太在意薪水
: : 提昇能力比較重要,
: : 看看老闆/學長會什麼事是你做不到的,別人為什麼這麼想,多懷疑/多求證
: : 不要把別人的知識/經驗 當成理所當然
: : 有記帳的習慣,回頭看以前的薪水 一開始還真的蠻少的
: : 現在碩士起薪都7~8萬了,這工作還是需要一點錢以外的熱情
: : 以下數字有略微向下調整,以免被看出來
: : 月薪 年薪
: : 42000
: : 42600 577000
: : 46500 618000 升遷
: : 51400 678000
: : 65900 813000 升遷
: : 67900 927000 換工作
: : 降級,打回資深工程師
: : 70700 1097000
: : 83400 1525000 結構
: : 89000 1706000
: : 95400 2008000 升遷
: : 101500 2144000
: : 108400 2598000
: : 126100 3044000 結構
: : 133400 3209000 升遷
: : 140700 3320000
: : 147500 3464000
: : 154600 3789000 升遷
: : 160000 4600000
: : 166000 5800000
: 這篇文章是不是不符合 PTT 的普世價值啊
: 原 PO 這樣算下來年資至少 18 年多了
: 用碩畢來算 24 + 18 至少 42 歲了
: 說好的工程師 30 歲賣完肝就會被裁員呢?PTT 鄉民都是這麼吹的欸
: 同時 PTT 鄉民也堅信醫牙畢業屌打工程師
: 工程師怎麼可能拿快 600 萬!比醫牙還多
: 完全不符合科技版 八卦版的普世價值吧
我31歲目前是診所受僱醫啦
工程師百百種 醫師也百百種,不同科別和待在不同層級的醫院或是診所,在診所是受僱
還是開業差異都不小
我就以一般在路上最常見的感冒科,裡面的受僱醫師來討論,看感冒幾乎什麼科都可以,
沒什麼技術門檻,收入相對偏低
能考上醫學系的族群,一般選二類的話可以上四大電資,碩士畢業出來進一線大廠應該沒
問題,所以比較的對象是一線大廠工程師
先說結論,感冒科診所受僱醫的地板比科技大廠工程師高,但天花板遠比工程師低
醫學系畢業多數會在醫院蹲個幾年,目前是PGY2年,住院醫師3-6年,年薪多在100-200萬
看科別,其實在這階段已經小輸大廠的工程師了,更不用說算時薪,在醫院一週上70-80
小時的班很正常
但醫師約在29-32歲拿到專科後,出來診所會有一個較大幅度的提升,以感冒科來說,時
薪大概2000-2500,看起來好像不錯,但在我學生時開始觀察了10年來都差不多,基本工
資都調多少了,而且醫療業是夕陽產業,沒往下調就不錯了
像我在28歲最後一年住院醫師年薪約140w,29歲拿到專科出來診所後開始衝節數,想賺多
就是多做多兼差
一天早中晚三個時段,一週七天共21個時段,一個時段約3-4小時,有本事跟幾家診所喬
好時間,一週跟一般公司一樣上40小時就好,40x2000~2500=80000~100000,一個月就約4
0萬了
所以我29歲年薪直接跳470萬,30歲更是火力全開,一週上七天,年薪580萬
然後呢?就衝上不去去了,每天看差不多的病,講差不多的話,開差不多的藥,我職業倦
怠感愈來愈嚴重,今年開始減少看診時數,時薪也不會上調,預計今年會少賺60萬
但是科技大廠,當到中高階主管年薪破千萬的多的是,而且現在如日中天,整體產業還有
往上的空間,醫療業則是因健保的限制,加上醫學系愈開愈多間,已經是夕陽產業了
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