銀行車貸的問題 - 金融業討論

By Agnes 
at 2021-05-11T17:46
at 2021-05-11T17:46
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OK啦,你要來戰,戰到底 
 
※ 引述《Mooxx (oxox)》之銘言:
: 想請問大家
: 剛剛在跟一個自稱銀行放款的人討論
: 我自己本身是汽車業務
: 也跟很多銀行車貸業務認識
: 1.
: 關於銀行車貸利率部份
: 以台新銀行來說
: 補貼息利率1.65,不補不貼2.65
: 我說不管小白或年收百萬
: 利率都是一樣,看是用哪個方案
: 差別在核貸金額有可能不同
: 而他說小白跟年收100萬
: 辦車貸的利率會差很多
 
已經貼兩張圖給你看了,不管哪家放款授信會審核借款人條件來核定利率
 
天經地義,這個沒什麼好爭
 
舉凡你想得到的貸款都是這樣審
 
有高風險客群也有低風險客群
 
回到你說的車貸利率,不分客群都適用同一種利率
 
那只有一種可能
 
就是這個放款公司已經把獲利跟風險都算完了才做這種包山包海的業務
 
你不要告訴我領現金小白跟醫師的償債能力是一樣的,風險也是一樣的
 
那至於放款公司願意用一視同仁的方式來核貸利率
 
說明他一定是賺好賺滿才敢搞這種東西
 
沒人會做賠錢的生意。
 
 
滾息的動作要隨借款時間來發酵,這個你也不用跟我爭,
 
放款第一期就把客戶七年來利息一次扣足
 
說明這個車貸公司就是想包贏及提前認列損益
 
 
這種方式造成借款人有可能以下幾種樣態無法吃足84期你所謂的低利率,並且“可能”損
害借款人權益:
 
1.未到期前賣車、提前結清或部分清償
 
2.不慎或不幸違約繳款
 
 
那他就是一定要背滿這些未到期本金
 
跟一般貸款本利攤不同的是,一般放款因為 未先給足放款期間利息
 
繳款期間有還本付息,伴隨每次繳款都可以償還一些本金且沒在第一期就吐滿利息
 
他後續剩餘本金(含息)不會那麼多
 
: 2.
: 他說用先付息的方式是業務在騙錢
: 說如果貸一年就結清
: 等於只貸一年但還七年的利息(版友貸七年)
: 我是跟他說用這方式是不提早結清的人用的
: 因為跟本利攤比起來,利息少22000元
: 我的觀念難道是錯的?
 
不要以為車貸公司是吃素的
 
有利必有弊
 
一個正面積極的債務人是兩種樣態:
 
一種不想背那麼久債務的,是在貸款期間盡可能及早還清。
 
一種是盡量慢還完,把手邊盈餘資金做更有效的利用投報。
 
但不會有積極正面的借款人會傻到第一期就吐給銀行滿7年息
 
我還沒借那麼久,你就先灌給我叫我買單??
 
你說的這種車貸繳款模式只有不積極且相對被動的借款人
 
才會一口氣吐滿利息給銀行
 
說穿了就是話術去引導不懂的客戶去以為補貼息很便宜可以先吐給人。
 
 
另外,放款一次性先吐出去的帳,一般是掛費用支出,法金消金都有,這個不多說。
 
只有你說的這種方式叫人先吐足七年息
 
 
 
有好有壞,但在我眼裡就是傻
 
: 3.
: 他說業務用低利率先付利息的方式先騙利息
: 再拿本金來滾利再賺一次利息
: 我說既然利息已經付清了
: 後續本金就沒有利息的存在
: 就只是還本金而已
 
你把利息在首期就滾完七年先叫我買單
 
實務上後續繳款雖說沒滾息
 
但難道我首期吐得利息,不能視為是我借款期間滾出來的息,只是我先付了??
 
換個方式說詞計算而已罷了
 
不然你告訴我,我首付七年的利息是哪來的??
 
不是根據我後續借款期間計算來的??
 
 
: 這3點他說我的講法在金融版會被電爆
: 他等著看我笑話
: -----
: Sent from JPTT on my iPhone
 
 
兩種繳款方式對不同客群有不同市場
 
這個我沒意見
 
你也沒資格來評斷 我覺得這種繳款方式是不利於借款人的看法
 
 
麻煩你先釐清 跟客戶宣告借款年息的定義是什麼
 
什麼是放款什麼是存款,利息是怎麼滾出來的等等定義
 
 
車貸借款可以先叫客戶吐七年息
 
那請問存款能不能請存款人先存款
 
叫銀行先吐足7年利息給存款戶??
 
然後定存鎖七年在銀行??
 
既然不能,為什麼你覺得車貸叫人先吐息的方式合理??
 
也許民間車貸公司有這種約定的方式繳款
 
但我可以認知 這是不有利於借款人的繳款方式
 
--
    ※ 引述《Mooxx (oxox)》之銘言:
: 想請問大家
: 剛剛在跟一個自稱銀行放款的人討論
: 我自己本身是汽車業務
: 也跟很多銀行車貸業務認識
: 1.
: 關於銀行車貸利率部份
: 以台新銀行來說
: 補貼息利率1.65,不補不貼2.65
: 我說不管小白或年收百萬
: 利率都是一樣,看是用哪個方案
: 差別在核貸金額有可能不同
: 而他說小白跟年收100萬
: 辦車貸的利率會差很多
已經貼兩張圖給你看了,不管哪家放款授信會審核借款人條件來核定利率
天經地義,這個沒什麼好爭
舉凡你想得到的貸款都是這樣審
有高風險客群也有低風險客群
回到你說的車貸利率,不分客群都適用同一種利率
那只有一種可能
就是這個放款公司已經把獲利跟風險都算完了才做這種包山包海的業務
你不要告訴我領現金小白跟醫師的償債能力是一樣的,風險也是一樣的
那至於放款公司願意用一視同仁的方式來核貸利率
說明他一定是賺好賺滿才敢搞這種東西
沒人會做賠錢的生意。
滾息的動作要隨借款時間來發酵,這個你也不用跟我爭,
放款第一期就把客戶七年來利息一次扣足
說明這個車貸公司就是想包贏及提前認列損益
這種方式造成借款人有可能以下幾種樣態無法吃足84期你所謂的低利率,並且“可能”損
害借款人權益:
1.未到期前賣車、提前結清或部分清償
2.不慎或不幸違約繳款
那他就是一定要背滿這些未到期本金
跟一般貸款本利攤不同的是,一般放款因為 未先給足放款期間利息
繳款期間有還本付息,伴隨每次繳款都可以償還一些本金且沒在第一期就吐滿利息
他後續剩餘本金(含息)不會那麼多
: 2.
: 他說用先付息的方式是業務在騙錢
: 說如果貸一年就結清
: 等於只貸一年但還七年的利息(版友貸七年)
: 我是跟他說用這方式是不提早結清的人用的
: 因為跟本利攤比起來,利息少22000元
: 我的觀念難道是錯的?
不要以為車貸公司是吃素的
有利必有弊
一個正面積極的債務人是兩種樣態:
一種不想背那麼久債務的,是在貸款期間盡可能及早還清。
一種是盡量慢還完,把手邊盈餘資金做更有效的利用投報。
但不會有積極正面的借款人會傻到第一期就吐給銀行滿7年息
我還沒借那麼久,你就先灌給我叫我買單??
你說的這種車貸繳款模式只有不積極且相對被動的借款人
才會一口氣吐滿利息給銀行
說穿了就是話術去引導不懂的客戶去以為補貼息很便宜可以先吐給人。
另外,放款一次性先吐出去的帳,一般是掛費用支出,法金消金都有,這個不多說。
只有你說的這種方式叫人先吐足七年息
有好有壞,但在我眼裡就是傻
: 3.
: 他說業務用低利率先付利息的方式先騙利息
: 再拿本金來滾利再賺一次利息
: 我說既然利息已經付清了
: 後續本金就沒有利息的存在
: 就只是還本金而已
你把利息在首期就滾完七年先叫我買單
實務上後續繳款雖說沒滾息
但難道我首期吐得利息,不能視為是我借款期間滾出來的息,只是我先付了??
換個方式說詞計算而已罷了
不然你告訴我,我首付七年的利息是哪來的??
不是根據我後續借款期間計算來的??
: 這3點他說我的講法在金融版會被電爆
: 他等著看我笑話
: -----
: Sent from JPTT on my iPhone
兩種繳款方式對不同客群有不同市場
這個我沒意見
你也沒資格來評斷 我覺得這種繳款方式是不利於借款人的看法
麻煩你先釐清 跟客戶宣告借款年息的定義是什麼
什麼是放款什麼是存款,利息是怎麼滾出來的等等定義
車貸借款可以先叫客戶吐七年息
那請問存款能不能請存款人先存款
叫銀行先吐足7年利息給存款戶??
然後定存鎖七年在銀行??
既然不能,為什麼你覺得車貸叫人先吐息的方式合理??
也許民間車貸公司有這種約定的方式繳款
但我可以認知 這是不有利於借款人的繳款方式
--
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