阿里巴巴 2022應屆生招聘-邊緣計算方向 - 薪水
By Lily
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補充幾點看法,來源: 本人和前同事
Q: 真的能給到年薪人民幣100萬?
A: 校招不知道,但入職三年努努力是可能拿到的,簡單說下阿里的薪資結構:
本薪N保證年薪13個月,每半年評一次績效分成361,
前30%又叫3.75,原則上可以拿到8-12個月,
我有一年3.75拿了約10.x個月。
(不是真的按月薪倍數來給,只是方便大家計算)
另外會發股票,一般P5不發,P6表現好發,P7表現平均以上就發,
但是股票跟獎金又跟你所在的BU有關,可以理解為BU也會打361,
火紅的BU自然獎金池也大 (比如前幾年的阿里媽媽)。
股票又分每年發的獎勵股跟入職股,
入職股兩年後才可以開始領50%,之後第三第四年分別領25%,
獎勵股一年後就可以領25%,之後一樣每年領25%領到第四年。
講到這邊基本可以明白為什麼我說三年可以拿到,
假設你P7,兩年後會同時領到入職股一半跟獎金股25%,
按照N*(13+10)+股票 計算,基本上月薪3萬+200股就穩穩達標了。
我認識的P7基本沒有低於這個月薪跟股票的。
Q: 那稅呢? 聽說中國稅很高?
A: 前面其實有人提過了,幾年前台灣人還是視為外籍可以拿發票抵30%的稅,
所以依上面的例子你月薪3萬只有2.1萬是要課稅的,
至於現在還有沒有外籍抵稅需要請還在的人補充,
而且中國大陸一樣是累進稅制,3萬5以下記得是25%稅率,
我自己覺得月薪部分稅真的不算高,但是獎金跟股票的稅就有點高了,
獎金因為跟月薪一起發,會讓當月薪資一下跳好幾個級距,
股票的話需要繳約3x%的稅所以確實不少,
最終的計算網路上搜都有懶人計算機,拿到offer的人可以去找找。
Q: 升遷會不會因為台灣人比較困難?
A: 在我看來P8之前你跟對老闆比起你是哪裡人更重要,
好的公司有賽缺,賽的公司有好缺這點在哪裡都是一樣的,
阿里P6以後的升遷需要答辯,會找2個你要升等的下一級跟1個下兩級的同事來當評委,
以升P7為例就是需要2個P8跟1個P9,而你老闆強一點通常都是P9起跳,
打點一下關係你肯定能過,當然技術線聽說難度高一點,
有的BU甚至通過率只有30%,所以更多還是看團隊。
P8之後可以說是全新的世界,但也不代表台灣人就沒機會。
我認識的P9(總監)台灣人就3, 4個了,更別說整個集團,
為什麼特別說P9,因為總監以上進入組織部,算是名義上的高管層,
薪水7-8年前聽過入職股給到1萬股的,近兩年比較縮水了但也聽過6k股的,
一萬股甚麼概念? 就是光股票就超過2M美金了(當然要扣稅而且要熬4年)。
最後拿天花板來說,不討論特例的Joe Tsai(其實他也移民了)。
台灣人之前有兩個是P11(VP)以上,一個花名張無忌一個花名趙敏,
知道的人就知道,不知道的Google一下都能查到,
其中一位甚至是台灣奇摩出身的。
講這些也不是要給阿里洗白,說真的大部分在那邊嫌的大概也進不去,
另外很多人說的阿里味/阿里PUA,坦白講早幾年工號四位數員工還多的時候,
我真的沒感覺有被PUA,老闆還時不時關心台灣同胞lol
至於現在你說阿里味變了,只能說哪裡都有爛老闆,
你在裡面就是要賺錢的,
如果連做做樣子都不會或者連分辨是非的能力都沒有,
那我只能建議你真的不要去。
--
Q: 真的能給到年薪人民幣100萬?
A: 校招不知道,但入職三年努努力是可能拿到的,簡單說下阿里的薪資結構:
本薪N保證年薪13個月,每半年評一次績效分成361,
前30%又叫3.75,原則上可以拿到8-12個月,
我有一年3.75拿了約10.x個月。
(不是真的按月薪倍數來給,只是方便大家計算)
另外會發股票,一般P5不發,P6表現好發,P7表現平均以上就發,
但是股票跟獎金又跟你所在的BU有關,可以理解為BU也會打361,
火紅的BU自然獎金池也大 (比如前幾年的阿里媽媽)。
股票又分每年發的獎勵股跟入職股,
入職股兩年後才可以開始領50%,之後第三第四年分別領25%,
獎勵股一年後就可以領25%,之後一樣每年領25%領到第四年。
講到這邊基本可以明白為什麼我說三年可以拿到,
假設你P7,兩年後會同時領到入職股一半跟獎金股25%,
按照N*(13+10)+股票 計算,基本上月薪3萬+200股就穩穩達標了。
我認識的P7基本沒有低於這個月薪跟股票的。
Q: 那稅呢? 聽說中國稅很高?
A: 前面其實有人提過了,幾年前台灣人還是視為外籍可以拿發票抵30%的稅,
所以依上面的例子你月薪3萬只有2.1萬是要課稅的,
至於現在還有沒有外籍抵稅需要請還在的人補充,
而且中國大陸一樣是累進稅制,3萬5以下記得是25%稅率,
我自己覺得月薪部分稅真的不算高,但是獎金跟股票的稅就有點高了,
獎金因為跟月薪一起發,會讓當月薪資一下跳好幾個級距,
股票的話需要繳約3x%的稅所以確實不少,
最終的計算網路上搜都有懶人計算機,拿到offer的人可以去找找。
Q: 升遷會不會因為台灣人比較困難?
A: 在我看來P8之前你跟對老闆比起你是哪裡人更重要,
好的公司有賽缺,賽的公司有好缺這點在哪裡都是一樣的,
阿里P6以後的升遷需要答辯,會找2個你要升等的下一級跟1個下兩級的同事來當評委,
以升P7為例就是需要2個P8跟1個P9,而你老闆強一點通常都是P9起跳,
打點一下關係你肯定能過,當然技術線聽說難度高一點,
有的BU甚至通過率只有30%,所以更多還是看團隊。
P8之後可以說是全新的世界,但也不代表台灣人就沒機會。
我認識的P9(總監)台灣人就3, 4個了,更別說整個集團,
為什麼特別說P9,因為總監以上進入組織部,算是名義上的高管層,
薪水7-8年前聽過入職股給到1萬股的,近兩年比較縮水了但也聽過6k股的,
一萬股甚麼概念? 就是光股票就超過2M美金了(當然要扣稅而且要熬4年)。
最後拿天花板來說,不討論特例的Joe Tsai(其實他也移民了)。
台灣人之前有兩個是P11(VP)以上,一個花名張無忌一個花名趙敏,
知道的人就知道,不知道的Google一下都能查到,
其中一位甚至是台灣奇摩出身的。
講這些也不是要給阿里洗白,說真的大部分在那邊嫌的大概也進不去,
另外很多人說的阿里味/阿里PUA,坦白講早幾年工號四位數員工還多的時候,
我真的沒感覺有被PUA,老闆還時不時關心台灣同胞lol
至於現在你說阿里味變了,只能說哪裡都有爛老闆,
你在裡面就是要賺錢的,
如果連做做樣子都不會或者連分辨是非的能力都沒有,
那我只能建議你真的不要去。
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