雲中雲 你打不垮的中資黑道 - 工程師
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作者: ReDmango (8K UHD 天才小釣手) 看板: Gossiping
標題: Re: [爆卦] 雲中雲 你打不垮的中資黑道
時間: Sun Aug 18 01:15:13 2019
剛與警方溝通過了,如下午那篇公告,我也不想再提,
看之後青埔所或桃警局官方有沒有要出個聲明澄清,
在無警方授權下,我也無權代表它們回應,很抱歉大半夜用電話把人挖起來就是...
這篇是個人立場的個人看法,發個廢文大家看看就好。
---------
用兩篇文統整一下時間軸:
一、8/17 05AM原文
二、8/17 23PM原文
17 05AM原文(外部網站備份)
https://pttweb.tw/tech_job/m-1565992797-a-5af.html
到職三天突然被給錢要求職離
↓
到職一個禮拜不懂錯在哪
↓
在公司陽台跟同事聊天,提到要檢舉公司
↓
聊天完回到沙發區,老闆就針對檢舉而暴怒,四個流氓就突然出現爆打
↓
在流氓出現爆打前有被樓下警衛擋住,但沒擋成功
↓
警衛在原PO被打後出現拉走原PO
↓
被打後同事開車載去急診
↓
到急診已昏迷,醒來在輪椅
↓
已經報案
(至少是8/17 5AM以前)
↓
躺在醫院病床上
(8/17 5AM發文) ***相當重要***
以上是第一篇原文
---
首先是第一篇時間軸上的問題:
一、到職三天被資遣 VS. 到職一個禮拜沒做錯事。
二A、在陽台講完檢舉回沙發,瞬間流氓就現場打人。
(流氓應是原本就在公司)
二B、樓下警衛有試圖攔截流氓,但攔不住。
(代表流氓不是原本就在公司,而是從外界進入大樓)
所以流氓本來並不在公司,但原PO講完要檢舉後,
要瞬間撇開樓下警衛的阻擋,瞬間到達公司內部打人。
三、在第一篇原文前已經報案,所以報案時間點一定是8/17凌晨五點前。
四、第一篇原文是08-17 05:59:55在醫院病床發文,這時間點非常重要請大家記好。
第二篇原文時間軸:
被打當時警衛實際上是被押在一樓,而後逃脫上樓救原PO
↓
同事開車載至桃園敏盛醫院,中途報案
↓
從醫院回到台北租屋處
(8/16 4PM)
↓
報案
(8/17 10AM)
---
再來是第二篇時間軸上的問題:
一、 8/17 5AM 第一篇文自承在醫院病床撐著發文 (應是桃園敏盛醫院)
8/16 4PM 第二篇文自承已從醫院返家回到台北租屋處
????
二、第一篇原文提到已報案,所以報案時間點早於8/17 5AM
第二篇原文提到去醫院途中報案,所以報案時間點早於8/16 4PM
在被原PO自刪的其中一篇文中有桃園警局三聯單,時間是8/17 10AM
????
所以
統整兩篇時間軸是:
---
被打>桃園警局報案>送桃園醫院>回台北租屋處>桃園醫院住院>
(8/16 4PM) (8/17 5AM前)
>凌晨借朋友PTT帳號發文>桃園警局報案>在員警要求下刪文>PO第二篇文
(8/17 5AM) (8/17 10AM) (8/17 23PM)
???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????
???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????
滿滿的黑人問號
---
其他疑點:
一、三聯單上的事由,不是恐嚇,也不是傷害,是妨害自由
二、後續有補充警衛被流氓押,後來才逃脫,代表警衛可提告妨害自由。
三、流氓總人數>4,公司內流氓=4,樓下還要有流氓押警衛。
四、早上三立抄第一篇原文,後來電子新聞刪文了。
五、事後很多家媒體採訪,但只有三立報,後來還刪文。
而後,三立8/17 9PM 貼了一則新聞:業者敘述入鏡的是廠商不是主管。
(連結與全文就不貼了,有興趣自己搜,這篇不是新聞文)
---
上班4天…工程師控無端遭解雇「被主管圍毆」 業者揭真相
工程師指控被無端解雇,還被公司主管圍毆!桃園一名工程師到新公司報到,控訴被辭退
還被4個人打,在網路上秀出衝突影片還有傷勢照片。不過我們實際到這間公司詢問,業者
反駁,根本就沒4個人,入鏡的男子是當天來拜訪的客戶,並非男子所說的主管,還指控男
子上班才4天,都在打瞌睡看影片,針對指控已採取法律行動。
公司員工表示,他們老闆是台灣人,這名男子才剛報到4天,不是上班打瞌睡,就是看網路
影片,而和他爆發衝突的是當天來拜訪的客戶,也不是男子所說的主管,公司目前已交由
法律程序處理。
被打男子也已經報案,這場離職糾紛,雙方不排除對簿公堂。
---
六、聲明不提告是因為不想把事情搞大,因為對方是黑道,
但是同時卻在網路上連PO多篇公審文。
七、今天黑道可以在公司內打工程師,明天就可以在北車打老弱婦孺..................
(好吧 這不是疑點)
八、原PO提供的錄影,文字敘述是被四個流氓打,
但錄影內容卻只能清楚聽到旁邊流氓:
「你不要打他,我剛跟他講話就已經不正常了,他就有吃精神藥。」
流氓人很善良,還會叫自己人不要打原PO,還知道原PO有吃藥,原PO也沒任何反駁。
這件事目前雙方說法都很可疑
來訪客戶打公司工程師
VS.
原PO說的時間軸完全有邏輯上的問題+錄影內容完全不是四流氓圍毆
建議大家還是左欺敵 右欺敵 拔草測風向
觀望事件下一步怎麼進展比較實在 免得又一個跑步哥
至於警方有沒有逼他刪文? 我不想在官方澄清前講
但你覺得有可能?
--
https://i.imgur.com/JP8N43w.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/N8M5pk4.png
https://i.imgur.com/5ONAEFQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xPlaDju.png
--
作者: ReDmango (8K UHD 天才小釣手) 看板: Gossiping
標題: Re: [爆卦] 雲中雲 你打不垮的中資黑道
時間: Sun Aug 18 01:15:13 2019
剛與警方溝通過了,如下午那篇公告,我也不想再提,
看之後青埔所或桃警局官方有沒有要出個聲明澄清,
在無警方授權下,我也無權代表它們回應,很抱歉大半夜用電話把人挖起來就是...
這篇是個人立場的個人看法,發個廢文大家看看就好。
---------
用兩篇文統整一下時間軸:
一、8/17 05AM原文
二、8/17 23PM原文
17 05AM原文(外部網站備份)
https://pttweb.tw/tech_job/m-1565992797-a-5af.html
到職三天突然被給錢要求職離
↓
到職一個禮拜不懂錯在哪
↓
在公司陽台跟同事聊天,提到要檢舉公司
↓
聊天完回到沙發區,老闆就針對檢舉而暴怒,四個流氓就突然出現爆打
↓
在流氓出現爆打前有被樓下警衛擋住,但沒擋成功
↓
警衛在原PO被打後出現拉走原PO
↓
被打後同事開車載去急診
↓
到急診已昏迷,醒來在輪椅
↓
已經報案
(至少是8/17 5AM以前)
↓
躺在醫院病床上
(8/17 5AM發文) ***相當重要***
以上是第一篇原文
---
首先是第一篇時間軸上的問題:
一、到職三天被資遣 VS. 到職一個禮拜沒做錯事。
二A、在陽台講完檢舉回沙發,瞬間流氓就現場打人。
(流氓應是原本就在公司)
二B、樓下警衛有試圖攔截流氓,但攔不住。
(代表流氓不是原本就在公司,而是從外界進入大樓)
所以流氓本來並不在公司,但原PO講完要檢舉後,
要瞬間撇開樓下警衛的阻擋,瞬間到達公司內部打人。
三、在第一篇原文前已經報案,所以報案時間點一定是8/17凌晨五點前。
四、第一篇原文是08-17 05:59:55在醫院病床發文,這時間點非常重要請大家記好。
第二篇原文時間軸:
被打當時警衛實際上是被押在一樓,而後逃脫上樓救原PO
↓
同事開車載至桃園敏盛醫院,中途報案
↓
從醫院回到台北租屋處
(8/16 4PM)
↓
報案
(8/17 10AM)
---
再來是第二篇時間軸上的問題:
一、 8/17 5AM 第一篇文自承在醫院病床撐著發文 (應是桃園敏盛醫院)
8/16 4PM 第二篇文自承已從醫院返家回到台北租屋處
????
二、第一篇原文提到已報案,所以報案時間點早於8/17 5AM
第二篇原文提到去醫院途中報案,所以報案時間點早於8/16 4PM
在被原PO自刪的其中一篇文中有桃園警局三聯單,時間是8/17 10AM
????
所以
統整兩篇時間軸是:
---
被打>桃園警局報案>送桃園醫院>回台北租屋處>桃園醫院住院>
(8/16 4PM) (8/17 5AM前)
>凌晨借朋友PTT帳號發文>桃園警局報案>在員警要求下刪文>PO第二篇文
(8/17 5AM) (8/17 10AM) (8/17 23PM)
???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????
???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????
滿滿的黑人問號
---
其他疑點:
一、三聯單上的事由,不是恐嚇,也不是傷害,是妨害自由
二、後續有補充警衛被流氓押,後來才逃脫,代表警衛可提告妨害自由。
三、流氓總人數>4,公司內流氓=4,樓下還要有流氓押警衛。
四、早上三立抄第一篇原文,後來電子新聞刪文了。
五、事後很多家媒體採訪,但只有三立報,後來還刪文。
而後,三立8/17 9PM 貼了一則新聞:業者敘述入鏡的是廠商不是主管。
(連結與全文就不貼了,有興趣自己搜,這篇不是新聞文)
---
上班4天…工程師控無端遭解雇「被主管圍毆」 業者揭真相
工程師指控被無端解雇,還被公司主管圍毆!桃園一名工程師到新公司報到,控訴被辭退
還被4個人打,在網路上秀出衝突影片還有傷勢照片。不過我們實際到這間公司詢問,業者
反駁,根本就沒4個人,入鏡的男子是當天來拜訪的客戶,並非男子所說的主管,還指控男
子上班才4天,都在打瞌睡看影片,針對指控已採取法律行動。
公司員工表示,他們老闆是台灣人,這名男子才剛報到4天,不是上班打瞌睡,就是看網路
影片,而和他爆發衝突的是當天來拜訪的客戶,也不是男子所說的主管,公司目前已交由
法律程序處理。
被打男子也已經報案,這場離職糾紛,雙方不排除對簿公堂。
---
六、聲明不提告是因為不想把事情搞大,因為對方是黑道,
但是同時卻在網路上連PO多篇公審文。
七、今天黑道可以在公司內打工程師,明天就可以在北車打老弱婦孺..................
(好吧 這不是疑點)
八、原PO提供的錄影,文字敘述是被四個流氓打,
但錄影內容卻只能清楚聽到旁邊流氓:
「你不要打他,我剛跟他講話就已經不正常了,他就有吃精神藥。」
流氓人很善良,還會叫自己人不要打原PO,還知道原PO有吃藥,原PO也沒任何反駁。
這件事目前雙方說法都很可疑
來訪客戶打公司工程師
VS.
原PO說的時間軸完全有邏輯上的問題+錄影內容完全不是四流氓圍毆
建議大家還是左欺敵 右欺敵 拔草測風向
觀望事件下一步怎麼進展比較實在 免得又一個跑步哥
至於警方有沒有逼他刪文? 我不想在官方澄清前講
但你覺得有可能?
--
https://i.imgur.com/JP8N43w.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/N8M5pk4.png
https://i.imgur.com/5ONAEFQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xPlaDju.png
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