NY BAR VS. CA BAR - 律師工作討論

By Una
at 2011-04-10T06:16
at 2011-04-10T06:16
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※ 引述《JLOPINKY (ZOE)》之銘言:
: 想請問先進一些問題:
: 為什麼台灣出國念llm的人都選擇考NY BAR
: 加州不是也有開放讓llm畢業生考BAR嗎?
To be eligible to take CBX, you need to register at the Cal state bar asso. as
either student or attorney. if you are already admitted to the taiwan bar,
you may just register as "foreign attorney" and take the exam. but the fee
is more expensive than student applicant. (see below) So it can be easier
to take CBX if you have Taiwan bar already.
: 之前有問過學長,但是他也只說加州BAR比較難考
: 具體細節也沒有多說...
: 請問是因為加州的應考門檻比較高嗎?
: 或是他考的科目比較多或是比較難
It is not only about difficulty of the exam, but also the cost and other
factors. In NYBX the registration fee is only $750 (it was only $250 until
last July). But if you want to take CBX, you need 1) pay almost $200 to
register at the state bar asso., and 2) pay $550 - $850 to register the
exam (depending on whether you register as student or attorney). And if
you are lucky enough to pass the CBX, you need to apply for moral
character determination and 3) pay another $450 application fee, where in
NY it is free. (please refer to Calbar website for exact number)
However, the number of subjects tested in NYBX is actually larger than
that in CBX. And most of CA laws resemble the Federal laws (except Cal
Evidence and Cal professional resposibilities). in NYBX you need to memorize
a lot of NY exceptions. But it's the depth of the questions and longer
test time set the two exams apart. It is said that NYBX is like a sprinter,
and CBX marathon. Undeniably, the two are the most difficult bar exams
among the 51 bar exams in the US. Only the CBX is slightly harder (average
passing rate for foreign credentials is aound 10%, compared 60-70% for ABA
accredited JD graduates).
: 哪一張執照比較有優勢?(或是說較為值錢呢?)
: 另外還有白目的問題
: 考上ny bar到底在台灣律師執業市場的優勢為何?
: 也就是能在事務所裡做什麼工作?
: 因為國外涉訟案件應該多會請當地的律師協助
: 這樣考上ny bar的附加價值到底為何呢?
: 謝謝回答囉....
The value of a US bar is minimum in Taiwan. It's not the problem of the US
bar, but the problem of Taiwanese legal market. Many has discussed about
this so I would defer the answers to them.
Sorry can't type Chinese. Hope this thread shed some lights to the myth of the
NYBX and CBX.
--
: 想請問先進一些問題:
: 為什麼台灣出國念llm的人都選擇考NY BAR
: 加州不是也有開放讓llm畢業生考BAR嗎?
To be eligible to take CBX, you need to register at the Cal state bar asso. as
either student or attorney. if you are already admitted to the taiwan bar,
you may just register as "foreign attorney" and take the exam. but the fee
is more expensive than student applicant. (see below) So it can be easier
to take CBX if you have Taiwan bar already.
: 之前有問過學長,但是他也只說加州BAR比較難考
: 具體細節也沒有多說...
: 請問是因為加州的應考門檻比較高嗎?
: 或是他考的科目比較多或是比較難
It is not only about difficulty of the exam, but also the cost and other
factors. In NYBX the registration fee is only $750 (it was only $250 until
last July). But if you want to take CBX, you need 1) pay almost $200 to
register at the state bar asso., and 2) pay $550 - $850 to register the
exam (depending on whether you register as student or attorney). And if
you are lucky enough to pass the CBX, you need to apply for moral
character determination and 3) pay another $450 application fee, where in
NY it is free. (please refer to Calbar website for exact number)
However, the number of subjects tested in NYBX is actually larger than
that in CBX. And most of CA laws resemble the Federal laws (except Cal
Evidence and Cal professional resposibilities). in NYBX you need to memorize
a lot of NY exceptions. But it's the depth of the questions and longer
test time set the two exams apart. It is said that NYBX is like a sprinter,
and CBX marathon. Undeniably, the two are the most difficult bar exams
among the 51 bar exams in the US. Only the CBX is slightly harder (average
passing rate for foreign credentials is aound 10%, compared 60-70% for ABA
accredited JD graduates).
: 哪一張執照比較有優勢?(或是說較為值錢呢?)
: 另外還有白目的問題
: 考上ny bar到底在台灣律師執業市場的優勢為何?
: 也就是能在事務所裡做什麼工作?
: 因為國外涉訟案件應該多會請當地的律師協助
: 這樣考上ny bar的附加價值到底為何呢?
: 謝謝回答囉....
The value of a US bar is minimum in Taiwan. It's not the problem of the US
bar, but the problem of Taiwanese legal market. Many has discussed about
this so I would defer the answers to them.
Sorry can't type Chinese. Hope this thread shed some lights to the myth of the
NYBX and CBX.
--
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