Re: [心得] 在日本工作受不了,想回台灣 - 薪水

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: 標題: Re: [請益] Re: [心得] 在日本工作受不了,想回台灣
: 時間: Mon Jun 19 15:08:33 2023
: 好像還沒看人提過, 也應該很多人對日本稅收沒有概念
: 用台灣所得稅制的前提去討論日本, 只能說garbage in, garbage out
: 台灣120萬台幣以內的收入跟免稅沒兩樣
: 而日本哪怕新鮮人剛出社會領22K程度的薪資, 收入的2X %就是自動被繳稅
: 通常薪資條有分左右兩邊, 左半邊寫的是帳面收入, 恩 大家在談的年收就是這個
: 各種日本政府調查、平均年收、一般在講的年收都是講帳面,算是common sense
109年度 綜稅所得應納稅額及稅率各級距申報統計表
https://www.fia.gov.tw/WEB/fia/ias/isa109/isa109/109_6-2.pdf
https://i.imgur.com/Ha6baKU.jpg
不考慮創業當老闆、逃稅的地下經濟與執行業務所得的族群(醫師律師會計師建築師),
以無法逃稅的領薪水打工仔而言,
在台灣年收120萬台幣,報稅時扣掉薪資所得特別扣除額,
再減掉申報戶內全部的免稅額與扣除額,再減掉基本生活費差額。
最後算出來的所得淨額,大部份會落在 0~54萬元 與 54~121萬元 這兩個級距,
(特別會節稅的人,淨額算出來會是 0,畢竟全國的申報戶有大約一半不用繳稅XD)
因為綜所稅是用累進稅率來做計算,所以
0~54 萬元級距的有效稅率是 1.55%。
54~122 萬元級距的有效稅率是 3.70%。
台灣年收120萬,勞工自己繳的 健保 + 勞保費,一年大約是 26000左右。
在台灣年收120萬台幣,繳的綜所稅與勞健保,有效稅率落在 3.7 ~ 5.9%。
日本年收500萬日幣,繳的所得稅、勞健保與住民稅,有效稅率落在 20 ~ 25%。
跟日本年收500萬日幣比起來,台灣年收120萬台幣,的確是跟免稅非常接近。XD
: 推 gn01216674 : 台灣所得稅扣一扣也差不多7-8成 06/19 17:33
: → gn01216674 : 對大於台幣450萬可能差不多稅收 06/19 17:33
: → gn01216674 : 但對台幣50萬-200萬這段就差很多 06/19 17:33
: → keio5566 : 房貸扣除額只能讓你扣十年左右,大概要年收好幾百 06/19 17:50
: → keio5566 : 萬台幣才有可能逼近日本的稅率 06/19 17:50
: → keio5566 : 像上面講的,在台灣年收五百以上的話,去日本當上 06/19 17:51
: → keio5566 : 班族才會感受到差不多的稅率 06/19 17:51
: → keio5566 : 五百萬台幣 06/19 17:51
: 推 gn01216674 : 阿就500以上台日沒什麼差啊 06/19 20:21
: → keio5566 : 500以上 括弧 台幣 06/19 20:41
其實台幣500萬以上的收入,台灣與日本的稅率還是差很大。
https://i.imgur.com/Ha6baKU.jpg
在台灣年收500萬台幣,扣除所有減免額度後的所得淨額,
大部份會落在 121~242萬元 與 242~453萬元 這兩個級距,
121~242 萬元級距的有效稅率是 6.68%。
242~453 萬元級距的有效稅率是 11.62%。
台灣年收500萬,勞工自己繳的 健保 + 勞保費 (都是最高級距),一年是 54048。
在台灣年收500萬台幣,繳的綜所稅與勞健保,有效稅率落在 7.9 ~ 12.7%。
日本年收2000萬日幣,繳的所得稅、勞健保與住民稅,有效稅率落在 30 ~ 35%。
依此類推,
在台灣年收1000萬台幣,所得淨額的繳稅級距,會落在 500~1000萬元這個級距,
500~1000 萬元的級距,有效稅率是 19.44%。
(前面就有網友分享家庭年收約 1000萬台幣,繳稅約20%)
台灣年收1000萬,勞工自己繳的 健保 + 勞保費 (都是最高級距),一年是 54048。
在台灣年收1000萬台幣,繳的綜所稅與勞健保,有效稅率是 19.98 %。
日本年收4000萬日幣,繳的所得稅、勞健保與住民稅,有效稅率落在 40 ~ 45%。
台灣日本兩地差不多的年收入,有效稅率的差距:
在台灣年收120萬台幣,繳的綜所稅與勞健保,有效稅率落在 3.7 ~ 5.9%。
日本年收500萬日幣,繳的所得稅、勞健保與住民稅,有效稅率落在 20 ~ 25%。
在台灣年收500萬台幣,繳的綜所稅與勞健保,有效稅率落在 7.9 ~ 12.7%。
日本年收2000萬日幣,繳的所得稅、勞健保與住民稅,有效稅率落在 30 ~ 35%。
在台灣年收1000萬台幣,繳的綜所稅與勞健保,有效稅率是 19.98 %。
日本年收4000萬日幣,繳的所得稅、勞健保與住民稅,有效稅率落在 40 ~ 45%。
可以看出,在年收120萬台幣(500萬日幣) ~ 年收1000萬台幣(4000萬日幣)的範圍內,
台灣日本兩地的有效稅率,差距高達 20%。
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: 標題: Re: [請益] Re: [心得] 在日本工作受不了,想回台灣
: 時間: Mon Jun 19 15:08:33 2023
: 好像還沒看人提過, 也應該很多人對日本稅收沒有概念
: 用台灣所得稅制的前提去討論日本, 只能說garbage in, garbage out
: 台灣120萬台幣以內的收入跟免稅沒兩樣
: 而日本哪怕新鮮人剛出社會領22K程度的薪資, 收入的2X %就是自動被繳稅
: 通常薪資條有分左右兩邊, 左半邊寫的是帳面收入, 恩 大家在談的年收就是這個
: 各種日本政府調查、平均年收、一般在講的年收都是講帳面,算是common sense
109年度 綜稅所得應納稅額及稅率各級距申報統計表
https://www.fia.gov.tw/WEB/fia/ias/isa109/isa109/109_6-2.pdf
https://i.imgur.com/Ha6baKU.jpg

不考慮創業當老闆、逃稅的地下經濟與執行業務所得的族群(醫師律師會計師建築師),
以無法逃稅的領薪水打工仔而言,
在台灣年收120萬台幣,報稅時扣掉薪資所得特別扣除額,
再減掉申報戶內全部的免稅額與扣除額,再減掉基本生活費差額。
最後算出來的所得淨額,大部份會落在 0~54萬元 與 54~121萬元 這兩個級距,
(特別會節稅的人,淨額算出來會是 0,畢竟全國的申報戶有大約一半不用繳稅XD)
因為綜所稅是用累進稅率來做計算,所以
0~54 萬元級距的有效稅率是 1.55%。
54~122 萬元級距的有效稅率是 3.70%。
台灣年收120萬,勞工自己繳的 健保 + 勞保費,一年大約是 26000左右。
在台灣年收120萬台幣,繳的綜所稅與勞健保,有效稅率落在 3.7 ~ 5.9%。
日本年收500萬日幣,繳的所得稅、勞健保與住民稅,有效稅率落在 20 ~ 25%。
跟日本年收500萬日幣比起來,台灣年收120萬台幣,的確是跟免稅非常接近。XD
: 推 gn01216674 : 台灣所得稅扣一扣也差不多7-8成 06/19 17:33
: → gn01216674 : 對大於台幣450萬可能差不多稅收 06/19 17:33
: → gn01216674 : 但對台幣50萬-200萬這段就差很多 06/19 17:33
: → keio5566 : 房貸扣除額只能讓你扣十年左右,大概要年收好幾百 06/19 17:50
: → keio5566 : 萬台幣才有可能逼近日本的稅率 06/19 17:50
: → keio5566 : 像上面講的,在台灣年收五百以上的話,去日本當上 06/19 17:51
: → keio5566 : 班族才會感受到差不多的稅率 06/19 17:51
: → keio5566 : 五百萬台幣 06/19 17:51
: 推 gn01216674 : 阿就500以上台日沒什麼差啊 06/19 20:21
: → keio5566 : 500以上 括弧 台幣 06/19 20:41
其實台幣500萬以上的收入,台灣與日本的稅率還是差很大。
https://i.imgur.com/Ha6baKU.jpg

在台灣年收500萬台幣,扣除所有減免額度後的所得淨額,
大部份會落在 121~242萬元 與 242~453萬元 這兩個級距,
121~242 萬元級距的有效稅率是 6.68%。
242~453 萬元級距的有效稅率是 11.62%。
台灣年收500萬,勞工自己繳的 健保 + 勞保費 (都是最高級距),一年是 54048。
在台灣年收500萬台幣,繳的綜所稅與勞健保,有效稅率落在 7.9 ~ 12.7%。
日本年收2000萬日幣,繳的所得稅、勞健保與住民稅,有效稅率落在 30 ~ 35%。
依此類推,
在台灣年收1000萬台幣,所得淨額的繳稅級距,會落在 500~1000萬元這個級距,
500~1000 萬元的級距,有效稅率是 19.44%。
(前面就有網友分享家庭年收約 1000萬台幣,繳稅約20%)
台灣年收1000萬,勞工自己繳的 健保 + 勞保費 (都是最高級距),一年是 54048。
在台灣年收1000萬台幣,繳的綜所稅與勞健保,有效稅率是 19.98 %。
日本年收4000萬日幣,繳的所得稅、勞健保與住民稅,有效稅率落在 40 ~ 45%。
台灣日本兩地差不多的年收入,有效稅率的差距:
在台灣年收120萬台幣,繳的綜所稅與勞健保,有效稅率落在 3.7 ~ 5.9%。
日本年收500萬日幣,繳的所得稅、勞健保與住民稅,有效稅率落在 20 ~ 25%。
在台灣年收500萬台幣,繳的綜所稅與勞健保,有效稅率落在 7.9 ~ 12.7%。
日本年收2000萬日幣,繳的所得稅、勞健保與住民稅,有效稅率落在 30 ~ 35%。
在台灣年收1000萬台幣,繳的綜所稅與勞健保,有效稅率是 19.98 %。
日本年收4000萬日幣,繳的所得稅、勞健保與住民稅,有效稅率落在 40 ~ 45%。
可以看出,在年收120萬台幣(500萬日幣) ~ 年收1000萬台幣(4000萬日幣)的範圍內,
台灣日本兩地的有效稅率,差距高達 20%。
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