什一奉獻 - 薪水
By Carolina Franco
at 2023-04-21T03:04
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※ 引述《yoga5566 (宥嘉5566)》之銘言:
: 『這種事情,正確就是正確,不正確就是不正確
: 什麼時候提不都一樣?
: 不改革的話,只是讓臺灣被那些三、四年級生掏空
我贊成改革 但不是亂改
改革絕對不是像2017年那樣改革
多繳少領延後退 苦的都是"現職"
尤其是多繳不能接受 我可以接受少領延後退
原本退撫12%就很高了 結果現在漲到費率15%負擔根本太大
不然叫勞保也漲到15%阿
: 以後六七年級生就是吃土
: 養三、四年級生的資源跟人,就是靠六、七年級生在賺在出
: 人口基數夠,三、四年級生就算少領一些,也是活得下去的
: 你有沒有想過六、七年級生老了呢?怎麼辦?去養老院?還是你要自我了斷?
: 九、十年級生的人口基數,根本無法支撐六、七年級生的龐大人口
: 可預見的未來,以後不論是資源或是人力都會飆漲
: 六、七年級生老了真的是死路一條
當初費率太低 造成基金無法永續不能全怪在上一代公務員上
不要忘記不足額費率有65%是政府要負擔的責任
公務員也只有35%責任
結果這些責任政府有多提撥嗎? 並沒有,只說要把改革後18%省下的錢拿進來補退撫
責任只有年改後已退休公務員少領
還有現職多繳少領延後退
這樣你能接受?
: 我知道會有人說,就算年改還是會爆炸
: 我同意呀,但是在不改革一定會爆炸,有改革有機會不爆炸的情況下
: 為什麼不改革?
: 三、四年級生少拿一點,讓六、七年級生有機會可以活下去,這樣不是很好?
: 我看到一些六、七年級生跟著別人在那邊反改革,我就覺得很好笑
: 不改革政府就是把你的錢拿去給那些三、四年級生
: 改革的話,這個錢至少是留給現在的六、七年級生使用
: 你以為國家把錢給三、四年級生,就會把一樣的錢給你嗎?
: 好傻好天真』
: 然後這個版,一堆人反對砍三、四年級的退撫金
: 然後自已又不想繳退撫金
: 我都在想是不是搞錯什麼事情了
我還是要再強調一遍 退撫費率15%太高
個人自負35% 也就是光退撫負擔就至少佔5%薪水
更不要談投保薪資是兩倍本俸>實質薪資
我不是不想繳退撫 但是費率應該合理
我以前也認為砍退休老人 應該要增加現職待遇
但事實上這幾年就是沒有 一樣回覆你 好傻好天真
還有 年改後退撫年金給付已經跟現職薪水脫鉤
(我知道仍會隨通膨調整,但調整通常不夠)
在高通膨的當下 現在年金給付待遇過了十年二十年後
非常可能都會是不足的
: 我個人沒什麼政黨立場,不用急著幫我貼標
: 我的一貫立場就是砍退休老人,養現職
: 從我以前的文章就是這樣
年改後漲退撫費率後調薪有超過通膨嗎?
養現職當初說的好聽
看看物價漲了多少? 公務員實質減薪 已成為事實
我們國家很有錢 全民普發六千 公務員薪水停滯
慣老闆有錢 發錢給股東 沒錢幫員工加薪
以上兩者有87%像
我現在也沒有甚麼立場 只是站在公務員的立場
我覺得政府應該思考年改後公務員待遇下降
那政府的服務品質會如何?
--
: 『這種事情,正確就是正確,不正確就是不正確
: 什麼時候提不都一樣?
: 不改革的話,只是讓臺灣被那些三、四年級生掏空
我贊成改革 但不是亂改
改革絕對不是像2017年那樣改革
多繳少領延後退 苦的都是"現職"
尤其是多繳不能接受 我可以接受少領延後退
原本退撫12%就很高了 結果現在漲到費率15%負擔根本太大
不然叫勞保也漲到15%阿
: 以後六七年級生就是吃土
: 養三、四年級生的資源跟人,就是靠六、七年級生在賺在出
: 人口基數夠,三、四年級生就算少領一些,也是活得下去的
: 你有沒有想過六、七年級生老了呢?怎麼辦?去養老院?還是你要自我了斷?
: 九、十年級生的人口基數,根本無法支撐六、七年級生的龐大人口
: 可預見的未來,以後不論是資源或是人力都會飆漲
: 六、七年級生老了真的是死路一條
當初費率太低 造成基金無法永續不能全怪在上一代公務員上
不要忘記不足額費率有65%是政府要負擔的責任
公務員也只有35%責任
結果這些責任政府有多提撥嗎? 並沒有,只說要把改革後18%省下的錢拿進來補退撫
責任只有年改後已退休公務員少領
還有現職多繳少領延後退
這樣你能接受?
: 我知道會有人說,就算年改還是會爆炸
: 我同意呀,但是在不改革一定會爆炸,有改革有機會不爆炸的情況下
: 為什麼不改革?
: 三、四年級生少拿一點,讓六、七年級生有機會可以活下去,這樣不是很好?
: 我看到一些六、七年級生跟著別人在那邊反改革,我就覺得很好笑
: 不改革政府就是把你的錢拿去給那些三、四年級生
: 改革的話,這個錢至少是留給現在的六、七年級生使用
: 你以為國家把錢給三、四年級生,就會把一樣的錢給你嗎?
: 好傻好天真』
: 然後這個版,一堆人反對砍三、四年級的退撫金
: 然後自已又不想繳退撫金
: 我都在想是不是搞錯什麼事情了
我還是要再強調一遍 退撫費率15%太高
個人自負35% 也就是光退撫負擔就至少佔5%薪水
更不要談投保薪資是兩倍本俸>實質薪資
我不是不想繳退撫 但是費率應該合理
我以前也認為砍退休老人 應該要增加現職待遇
但事實上這幾年就是沒有 一樣回覆你 好傻好天真
還有 年改後退撫年金給付已經跟現職薪水脫鉤
(我知道仍會隨通膨調整,但調整通常不夠)
在高通膨的當下 現在年金給付待遇過了十年二十年後
非常可能都會是不足的
: 我個人沒什麼政黨立場,不用急著幫我貼標
: 我的一貫立場就是砍退休老人,養現職
: 從我以前的文章就是這樣
年改後漲退撫費率後調薪有超過通膨嗎?
養現職當初說的好聽
看看物價漲了多少? 公務員實質減薪 已成為事實
我們國家很有錢 全民普發六千 公務員薪水停滯
慣老闆有錢 發錢給股東 沒錢幫員工加薪
以上兩者有87%像
我現在也沒有甚麼立場 只是站在公務員的立場
我覺得政府應該思考年改後公務員待遇下降
那政府的服務品質會如何?
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