半導體業offer請益 GG vs 外商 - 工程師
By Ula
at 2017-02-27T03:00
at 2017-02-27T03:00
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以我在 ic design 外商待了幾年的經驗跟你分享..
先講結論: 我個人覺得還是待在GG好.
怎麼說呢?你的年紀會被這樣的 offer 吸引, 我猜主要原因除了
多的那15%現金之外, 應該是想趁年輕看有沒有機會出國放放洋..
體驗難得的矽谷經驗. 想換個環境看看其實是很多工作 5~6年的工程師
會面臨的工作撞牆期. 有時並不是真的下一間公司比較好, 而是倦怠感造成
對新環境的嚮往.
目前檯面上的 EDA vendor , 應該只剩 Synopsys 和 Cadence 較具規模.
一個很明顯的事實是, 這些 EDA vendor 需要 foundry, 比 foundry 需要
vendor 來的多很多.
S 和 C 公司在業界當然都是很有名的, 但也就限於這個產業, 但GG 可就不一樣
了, 幾乎跨領域稍具常識的都知道GG. 在GG工作的附加價值其實蠻受用的.
(如果未來想申請個 MBA 或跨領域都是)
再來,假設你去了 S 或 C , 下一步呢? 如果要再回 GG 可能有難度..
最好的情況是去 design house 如 高通/Avago/NVIDIA/INTEL , 要不就自行創業.
可以想一下這是不是你想走的路徑.
再來是 EDA tool vendor 的前景, 其實我對他們的前景看法保守.
目前有能力花錢買 tool 的就那幾家大的, 但是又有分,
M 會花錢買, 外商那幾家 (Q/A/N/I) 基本上都有很大的 design flow team..
許多tool 根本就是 in house的..而且他們在先進製程的進度往往比 EDA tool vendor
還前面 (他們有實際在GG下單而且量產).
也就是說, 在大者恆大的狀況下, tool vendor 將來如果要衝營收,
靠傳統那些大廠機會不大, 除非大陸或其它地方又有新的大客戶冒出頭.
在GG, EDA tool vendor 有求於你, 但去了 vendor , 變成你有求於GG..
(這只是個比喻).
我覺得 EDA tool vendor 對你有興趣, 應該也是著眼於你在 GG 裡的 connection..
但只多 15% ..如果是我的話, 可能會要求再高一點.
最後, 如果是像我一開始講的, 單純想換個工作挑戰看看的話, 那還是去吧,
到時候因為沒去而後悔, 就不是$$或什麼可以彌補的了..
※ 引述《powerdreamer (ICS)》之銘言:
: 各位前輩先進好
: 小弟今年29~目前在GG即將邁入第五年
: 最近拿到一個EDA tool商的offer
: 工作內容為和GG/其他foundry RD co-work simulation的部分
: 找機會一起合發paper (我們出simulation, foundry出 process)
: 目前重點在N3/5/7的 MEOL/BEOL
: 若過去每年可能會有1-2個月待在san jose 和軟體演算法的RD溝通優化整個模型
: 薪水部分大概只比GG漲了15%(不含RSU), 現金部分年薪稅前約2.5M
: 但title可掛到technical manager
: 目前想的到的缺點
: 1.公司規模不比GG 台灣名氣GG海放...(擔心下一份工作有影響)
: 2.在GG當RD看到的東西比單模擬的全面許多 (EDA商巴不得foundry餵silicon data給他)
: 目前想到的優點
: 1.彈性 可在家上班 和foundry/美國開會再出現即可
: 2.公司前景似乎很不錯 亞洲區營收每年翻倍 未來3-5年應該不是問題
: 比起GG現在的如日中天 跳出去似乎變得不穩定許多
: 但彈性的工作模式/國際化的同事又是我很嚮往的
: 不知有前輩可以指點汪洋中的小書僮嗎 QQ
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