台積電美國員工質疑聲浪起 (員工)回應了 - 薪水
By Kumar
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at 2023-02-28T18:50
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※ 引述《wzmildf (我不是蘿莉控)》之銘言:
: 其實大家不覺得整個歷史不停在循環嗎?
: 現在看到這些哭哭和版友的好心(嘲諷)怎麼都這麼眼熟耳熟
: 去美國前:你們看不起的產線三寶要去美國工作還能拿綠卡啦~豬屎仔覺得如何
: 進台積前:MAE的缺好嗎 我看大家都不推但是我很耐操你們覺得呢
: 鄉民:(把簽證、開銷、稅法、薪資分析一百次還有人去場勘給你看)
: 鄉民:拿出過往一堆慘痛經歷、分析職涯規劃和解釋未來生活品質
: 去美國後:這是哪裡,沙漠好荒涼,美國買不到雞蛋修水電好貴,我要回家 QAQ
: 半年後:學長都不教、值班值不完、為什麼MAE薪水差EE這麼多 QAQ
整串看完覺得有點奇怪...還多了一堆酸文?有些人一來就是用力酸的
台積團基本上也算是外派工作,
應該要跟美商韓商日商的外派比吧?
怎麼一堆人拿學生工作,第一代移民的生活經驗來跟他們說在那邊叫什麼 =_=?
外派某種程度也是公司要你去
跟自己想來美國工作本來就不一樣
在美國雖然一般認知,萬事要自己來,
但有待過的人應該也學過,
有事情要自己會靠北
那些在美國落地唸書工作的人
不也都常常分享跟各種服務業靠北(練英文),
問題才解決的經驗?
大多科技業對於外派其實都有附上很多協助的
應該要督促公司在這些部分做得更好才對
租房,租車,這個台積已經有包含了
金額多少這邊大家都討論得很清楚了,反正不滿公司安排,能出去租拿補貼也就可以
吃東西
我自己知道日韓的外派有些還蠻計較的,
一定會準備日韓傳統食物
不一定要吃壽司韓牛,
但是拉麵紫菜卷泡菜豆腐鍋總是要有的
再給一桶醬菜or泡菜,
販賣機合作社賣日韓食物,直接開間日韓營站
吃的東西顧好了,員工就不會靠北
這點台積一定要好好照顧,
營站有泡麵可以吃,演習有小蜜蜂可以打,
外訓有飲料可以叫,怎麼苦都沒問題
台商到中國東南亞都會弄台幹餐廳了,
這點應該是外派蠻重要的項目
其實蠻應該用力靠北的
到美國,沒有在趕快花園烤肉融入當地的
一定是各種日韓本土活動辦好辦滿,
讓大家先安心生活
不要一開始就衝擊那麼大
如果用心的外派公司,
一定就先弄個小尾牙小春酒,大小台灣活動
把台灣風格帶過去
語言的話再爛也沒關係,
完整的全家語言補助和上課就好了
水電維修的方面,
除了宿舍一定要派人盯服務品質
美國人工貴,就應該學外商
給一筆不小的allowance雜支
到當地可以請人來服務
稅務方面,
第一年請會計師,
或者是公司開課程教大家報稅
如果租車還是不方便接小孩,一家要兩台車的
也要考慮多開交通車,或者是公司提倡協調carpool
不要讓員工自己想辦法拼車
這些都是很基本的外派or relocation package
只是因為人多,可能以前人少,沒有制度化
應該趁這時間把這些部分制度化弄好
各種靠北其實不用花很多錢,
只要請專人好好照顧就好了
你有用心顧生活,員工會感覺得出來
那種出來洗地叫員工不要在網路上靠北的
真的是大可不必
台GG花點錢把外派員工生活弄好一點不是很好嗎?
這樣也給其他供應鏈要派去美國的
樹立一個標竿
基本外派包把它建立起來
而不是講到外派美國
就被人家說台積電也沒有,不要太不滿
這樣才是正向循環吧
--
: 其實大家不覺得整個歷史不停在循環嗎?
: 現在看到這些哭哭和版友的好心(嘲諷)怎麼都這麼眼熟耳熟
: 去美國前:你們看不起的產線三寶要去美國工作還能拿綠卡啦~豬屎仔覺得如何
: 進台積前:MAE的缺好嗎 我看大家都不推但是我很耐操你們覺得呢
: 鄉民:(把簽證、開銷、稅法、薪資分析一百次還有人去場勘給你看)
: 鄉民:拿出過往一堆慘痛經歷、分析職涯規劃和解釋未來生活品質
: 去美國後:這是哪裡,沙漠好荒涼,美國買不到雞蛋修水電好貴,我要回家 QAQ
: 半年後:學長都不教、值班值不完、為什麼MAE薪水差EE這麼多 QAQ
整串看完覺得有點奇怪...還多了一堆酸文?有些人一來就是用力酸的
台積團基本上也算是外派工作,
應該要跟美商韓商日商的外派比吧?
怎麼一堆人拿學生工作,第一代移民的生活經驗來跟他們說在那邊叫什麼 =_=?
外派某種程度也是公司要你去
跟自己想來美國工作本來就不一樣
在美國雖然一般認知,萬事要自己來,
但有待過的人應該也學過,
有事情要自己會靠北
那些在美國落地唸書工作的人
不也都常常分享跟各種服務業靠北(練英文),
問題才解決的經驗?
大多科技業對於外派其實都有附上很多協助的
應該要督促公司在這些部分做得更好才對
租房,租車,這個台積已經有包含了
金額多少這邊大家都討論得很清楚了,反正不滿公司安排,能出去租拿補貼也就可以
吃東西
我自己知道日韓的外派有些還蠻計較的,
一定會準備日韓傳統食物
不一定要吃壽司韓牛,
但是拉麵紫菜卷泡菜豆腐鍋總是要有的
再給一桶醬菜or泡菜,
販賣機合作社賣日韓食物,直接開間日韓營站
吃的東西顧好了,員工就不會靠北
這點台積一定要好好照顧,
營站有泡麵可以吃,演習有小蜜蜂可以打,
外訓有飲料可以叫,怎麼苦都沒問題
台商到中國東南亞都會弄台幹餐廳了,
這點應該是外派蠻重要的項目
其實蠻應該用力靠北的
到美國,沒有在趕快花園烤肉融入當地的
一定是各種日韓本土活動辦好辦滿,
讓大家先安心生活
不要一開始就衝擊那麼大
如果用心的外派公司,
一定就先弄個小尾牙小春酒,大小台灣活動
把台灣風格帶過去
語言的話再爛也沒關係,
完整的全家語言補助和上課就好了
水電維修的方面,
除了宿舍一定要派人盯服務品質
美國人工貴,就應該學外商
給一筆不小的allowance雜支
到當地可以請人來服務
稅務方面,
第一年請會計師,
或者是公司開課程教大家報稅
如果租車還是不方便接小孩,一家要兩台車的
也要考慮多開交通車,或者是公司提倡協調carpool
不要讓員工自己想辦法拼車
這些都是很基本的外派or relocation package
只是因為人多,可能以前人少,沒有制度化
應該趁這時間把這些部分制度化弄好
各種靠北其實不用花很多錢,
只要請專人好好照顧就好了
你有用心顧生活,員工會感覺得出來
那種出來洗地叫員工不要在網路上靠北的
真的是大可不必
台GG花點錢把外派員工生活弄好一點不是很好嗎?
這樣也給其他供應鏈要派去美國的
樹立一個標竿
基本外派包把它建立起來
而不是講到外派美國
就被人家說台積電也沒有,不要太不滿
這樣才是正向循環吧
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