外商藥廠投履歷 - 面試

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※ [本文轉錄自 Salary 看板 #1TKN6jtR ]
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Updated on 24-Aug-2019
因為筆者已離開業界超過一年,敘述的經驗談/價碼可能已過時,故從今起不再回應藥廠/CRO/marketing/RA相關問題,還請各位見諒,謝謝。
作者: jyuan1993 (Geeks4Geeks) 看板: Salary
標題: Re: [問題] 外商藥廠投履歷
時間: Mon Aug 12 22:03:23 2019
※ 引述《jyuan1993 (丹丹)》之銘言:
: 待過兩間外商藥廠marketer順手回文一下
: 其實原po有藥師牌、(藥學系)在藥廠裡算是僅次於醫學系的好學歷,條件算是非常好,外商藥廠代表非常喜歡找藥師牌面試,我在德國酒商藥廠面試時跟我一起面的幾乎都有藥師牌
: 建議可以直接投外商藥廠,不管大小間都非常建議海投,只是一間公司不要投超過一個職缺
: 如果投了沒有回應,可以上LinkedIn找recruiter/HR的email,直接寫信聯繫,我因為直接出擊有拿到法商/德商大型藥廠面試的機會
: 只不過剛畢業兩年又沒有相關產業經歷,找到的非常可能是很難跑的藥/很賽的區,就只好忍忍,苦蹲兩年以上再跳
: 有少數外商待遇稍微差一點,通常是給新人練功用的
: 外商propa蹲四年以上、有藥師牌,基本上之後發展就很好了,不管想跳去別家跑新藥、或是英文好也可以轉APM
: 有問題可以再站內信問我
最近收到不少很年輕(比我1993更年輕的新鮮人的)站內信,也有詳細回答,所以貼上來跟大家分享一下
1. 想請問一下,如果有牌新鮮人沒去過醫院工作過,那還有機會進藥商嗎(外商)?
Ans:
藥學系、醫學系有機會
不是這兩個系就要台大/北醫/政大/清大/陽明研究所或是國外名校
有牌(good to have)/高學歷(required)/英文流利(required)/醫院工作經歷好像沒有很大差別
2. 最近有做藥廠PM的打算(應該從產品專員做起)
如果一直都停留在PM這個位置,年薪大概可以到多少?台廠、外商感覺差很多?
或者停留在做PM 但是跳別家公司 不知道年薪可以到多少呢
Ans:
PM要求很高,第一就是要學歷好、英文好、有國外學歷更重要
很多都是台灣藥師牌+國外碩士+代表經驗兩年以上跳來做
或是MSL做好幾年一直升不上去跳來做
或是medical device做過marketing的人跳過來
如果自覺學歷不夠就趕快花一兩年出去洗一波
英文不夠就補習準備托福/雅思(雖然申請時沒有規定要看成績單,不過在準備考試過程英文真的會大大提升)
然後買線上英文口說的課程(一堂很便宜才台幣300多塊,有很多兼職的美語英語的老師在做)
密集一週上3-4堂大概三個月就會有一點效果了
找人內推是申請最有效的方式,不管在哪個行業都適用
然後薪水滿普的,可能是因為我之前只是APM的關係,外商APM是一整包85+萬起跳
一整包裡面包含業績有到的獎金,所以如果業績沒到的話......
業績會不會到也不一定跟能力有關,因為有些很賽的產品/paper數據不夠漂亮的產品/competitor突然出新藥的產品,業績就會哭哭
我當初是談整包90萬多一點點,但做三個月就發現敝team三年來業績都沒到過,苗頭不對就趕快跑了
=====================================
(工作再找就有了,但錢領少就是真委屈了)
=====================================
3.
可以問一下覺得最suffer的地方是什麼嗎?
雖然這個可能每個人不一樣 還是想要打聽多一點 看自己能否承受 謝謝
Ans:
報plan時可以整整一週每天只睡三小時,slides一直改,報告時一直被總經理跟BUD電說為什麼target放那麼低
偶爾要跟代表一起跑客戶、照顧客戶、又要協助代表期待他們業績可以到,各種support,但不代表做這些努力一定可以反映在業績上
marketing聽起來耀眼又潮,實際上大大小小瑣事都要你包辦,橫跨project mngt/crisis mngt/back support代表等等
有些公司代表做不到業績會靠北你、產品明明很賽但BUD也會靠北你484能力不足為什麼業績到不了
但這些都還好啦,最suffering的地方是公司裡面有病態的office politics、不然就是一直downsizing一直怕整個team收起來,大家一起回家吃自己
4. 順便問一下你現在還是marketing嗎?
Ans:
我現在已經不在藥廠、也不在台灣了,不過跟本文無關所以不多做討論
以上是能力不足、抗壓力不夠的魯妹a分享,如果有錯誤的地方也歡迎各位先進補充,感謝
--
-----------------------------------------------------
Updated on 24-Aug-2019
因為筆者已離開業界超過一年,敘述的經驗談/價碼可能已過時,故從今起不再回應藥廠/CRO/marketing/RA相關問題,還請各位見諒,謝謝。
作者: jyuan1993 (Geeks4Geeks) 看板: Salary
標題: Re: [問題] 外商藥廠投履歷
時間: Mon Aug 12 22:03:23 2019
※ 引述《jyuan1993 (丹丹)》之銘言:
: 待過兩間外商藥廠marketer順手回文一下
: 其實原po有藥師牌、(藥學系)在藥廠裡算是僅次於醫學系的好學歷,條件算是非常好,外商藥廠代表非常喜歡找藥師牌面試,我在德國酒商藥廠面試時跟我一起面的幾乎都有藥師牌
: 建議可以直接投外商藥廠,不管大小間都非常建議海投,只是一間公司不要投超過一個職缺
: 如果投了沒有回應,可以上LinkedIn找recruiter/HR的email,直接寫信聯繫,我因為直接出擊有拿到法商/德商大型藥廠面試的機會
: 只不過剛畢業兩年又沒有相關產業經歷,找到的非常可能是很難跑的藥/很賽的區,就只好忍忍,苦蹲兩年以上再跳
: 有少數外商待遇稍微差一點,通常是給新人練功用的
: 外商propa蹲四年以上、有藥師牌,基本上之後發展就很好了,不管想跳去別家跑新藥、或是英文好也可以轉APM
: 有問題可以再站內信問我
最近收到不少很年輕(比我1993更年輕的新鮮人的)站內信,也有詳細回答,所以貼上來跟大家分享一下
1. 想請問一下,如果有牌新鮮人沒去過醫院工作過,那還有機會進藥商嗎(外商)?
Ans:
藥學系、醫學系有機會
不是這兩個系就要台大/北醫/政大/清大/陽明研究所或是國外名校
有牌(good to have)/高學歷(required)/英文流利(required)/醫院工作經歷好像沒有很大差別
2. 最近有做藥廠PM的打算(應該從產品專員做起)
如果一直都停留在PM這個位置,年薪大概可以到多少?台廠、外商感覺差很多?
或者停留在做PM 但是跳別家公司 不知道年薪可以到多少呢
Ans:
PM要求很高,第一就是要學歷好、英文好、有國外學歷更重要
很多都是台灣藥師牌+國外碩士+代表經驗兩年以上跳來做
或是MSL做好幾年一直升不上去跳來做
或是medical device做過marketing的人跳過來
如果自覺學歷不夠就趕快花一兩年出去洗一波
英文不夠就補習準備托福/雅思(雖然申請時沒有規定要看成績單,不過在準備考試過程英文真的會大大提升)
然後買線上英文口說的課程(一堂很便宜才台幣300多塊,有很多兼職的美語英語的老師在做)
密集一週上3-4堂大概三個月就會有一點效果了
找人內推是申請最有效的方式,不管在哪個行業都適用
然後薪水滿普的,可能是因為我之前只是APM的關係,外商APM是一整包85+萬起跳
一整包裡面包含業績有到的獎金,所以如果業績沒到的話......
業績會不會到也不一定跟能力有關,因為有些很賽的產品/paper數據不夠漂亮的產品/competitor突然出新藥的產品,業績就會哭哭
我當初是談整包90萬多一點點,但做三個月就發現敝team三年來業績都沒到過,苗頭不對就趕快跑了
=====================================
(工作再找就有了,但錢領少就是真委屈了)
=====================================
3.
可以問一下覺得最suffer的地方是什麼嗎?
雖然這個可能每個人不一樣 還是想要打聽多一點 看自己能否承受 謝謝
Ans:
報plan時可以整整一週每天只睡三小時,slides一直改,報告時一直被總經理跟BUD電說為什麼target放那麼低
偶爾要跟代表一起跑客戶、照顧客戶、又要協助代表期待他們業績可以到,各種support,但不代表做這些努力一定可以反映在業績上
marketing聽起來耀眼又潮,實際上大大小小瑣事都要你包辦,橫跨project mngt/crisis mngt/back support代表等等
有些公司代表做不到業績會靠北你、產品明明很賽但BUD也會靠北你484能力不足為什麼業績到不了
但這些都還好啦,最suffering的地方是公司裡面有病態的office politics、不然就是一直downsizing一直怕整個team收起來,大家一起回家吃自己
4. 順便問一下你現在還是marketing嗎?
Ans:
我現在已經不在藥廠、也不在台灣了,不過跟本文無關所以不多做討論
以上是能力不足、抗壓力不夠的魯妹a分享,如果有錯誤的地方也歡迎各位先進補充,感謝
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