時代力量年改方案:18%三年歸零 樓地板22 - 考試

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※ [本文轉錄自 Gossiping 看板 #1OtAn4yN ]

作者: luke7212 (宇宙大路克) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [新聞] 時代力量年改方案:18%三年歸零 樓地板22
時間: Thu Mar 30 14:57:05 2017

1.媒體來源:

民報


2.完整新聞標題:

時代力量年改方案:18%三年歸零 樓地板22K


3.完整新聞內文:

年金改革方案審查在即,繼社民黨之後,時代力量黨團今(30)日也提出黨團版本的草案
,共有六大特點,包括18%優存利息,月退、領一次退者都在3年歸零;公務員所得替代率
,採「砍高官、護基層」;公務員退休後最低保障的樓地板,採「全國每人可支配所得中
位數」金額為2萬2208元;採計育嬰年資,提撥費用政府全額負擔;離婚配偶有年金分配
金請求權;財務自動平衡機制,確保年金永續。

徐永明表示,時代力量主張沒有法源依據的18%優存利率應該在3年退場歸零(108年9%、1
09年6%、110年3%、111年0%),不應該再繼續拖下去, 徐永明說,18%是年金給台灣的慘
痛教訓,當時政府認為可以負擔,但過了十幾二十年的時間,現在已經是國家財政很龐大
的負擔,應該要體會到未來世界的變化,不管是經濟或社會結構上的,不是在法律上釘死
一個數字,要建立長期可持續的年金制度

在「最低保障」,也就是「退休金樓地板」的計算上,時代力量黨團以「可支配所得中位
數」,2015年的數字2萬2208為主,高潞極H用說明,台灣上班族薪資中位數大約在4萬100
0來看,許多軍公教人員的退休金,都高於台灣半數納稅人的薪資,這也凸顯出整個世代
不公平的問題,勞工的的樓地板也只有1萬4679元,再再顯示出職業不平等的問題,更不
用說現在退休基金已經寅吃卯糧入不敷出,因此在確保滿足基本生活需求的情況下,以此
原則來設定。

黃國昌則補充,考試院是以公務人員委任一職等本俸最高俸額加上專加給,因此最低保障
為14450+17710=32160為樓地板,不過時代力量的算法的特點是,可以按照每年實際經濟
狀況和物價指數隨時變動調整,另外黃國昌也說,現在每個人的基本生活費其實是在可支
配所得中位數定位為60%,假設軍公教人員的基本生活費可能比一般人高出一些,因此直
接用可支配所得的中位數來計算,這大概是基本生活費的1.5倍的水準,回到可支配所得
的原意,作為退休後基本生活需要的費用,當作保障公務人員的基準。



4.完整新聞連結 (或短網址):

https://goo.gl/lxlqIK

5.備註:

一票老軍公教的退休金還高於現在半數納稅人的所得,3年歸零、且採用浮動式年金,每
年會因應物價指數變動,離婚配偶有年金分配金請求權,財務自動平衡機制,確保年金可
以永續運作,這才叫做真正回應世代的期望好嗎?


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Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2017-03-31T21:55
22K 那樣怎樣旅遊啦
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2017-04-05T20:08
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2017-04-06T14:40
22K怎麼旅遊炒房啦
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2017-04-09T19:18
這版本讚
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By Franklin
at 2017-04-10T03:33
John avatar
By John
at 2017-04-10T07:02
22K那沒有尊嚴
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By Zenobia
at 2017-04-14T06:07
18%一年歸0~取消樓地板~增建天花板42000謝謝
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2017-04-15T09:43
尊嚴 我們要尊嚴
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2017-04-16T04:33
18趴 ok, 22k有點低啊!!
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2017-04-19T12:02
22K怎麼住帝寶啦
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2017-04-24T09:05
最低工資多少地板就多少
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2017-04-28T03:04
22k出國旅遊不夠錢啦
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2017-05-01T03:28
立委月領40萬 然後把公務員砍到見股
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2017-05-02T20:39
比較期待dpp要用什麼理由推翻時力
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2017-05-07T09:46
在野很會喊,執政大概KMT3.0
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2017-05-12T04:18
高潞極H用
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2017-05-16T10:17
支持啦
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2017-05-18T10:05
如果公務員退休領22K,恐怕會造成在職時想方法貪汙更多
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2017-05-19T19:15
馬當8年死不動,蔡當選開始規劃,憑這點再也沒理由投國民
黨了。
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2017-05-22T02:30
這版本像樣多了,推!
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By Carolina Franco
at 2017-05-26T11:02
下流老人啦!!
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2017-05-27T18:05
反正不會過 建議喊8000元就好
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2017-05-31T06:17
跟著中華民國政府來台灣那群人會跳腳吧?
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2017-06-04T08:33
怎麼不是天花板22k
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2017-06-04T21:38
希望可以嘴他們22K用不夠 不會去兼差嗎
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2017-06-08T07:37
推啦幹
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2017-06-10T08:52
才5席 反正是不會過 1年歸零樓地板10k也是說說而已^.<
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2017-06-13T02:12
高潞極H太西斯了
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2017-06-16T22:27
這才是改革
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2017-06-19T12:03
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2017-06-22T03:06
均貧真好
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2017-06-24T23:18
我猜最後喊芭樂拳 4年歸零 30K樓地板
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2017-06-26T02:07
屎袋力量最高...
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2017-06-29T18:08
22k出國炒房養兒不夠錢,還有直銷業生機店會先反對
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2017-06-30T01:32
垃圾黨工很喜歡搶前面噓文
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2017-07-01T18:24
不錯喔 讓那些米蟲知道22K的滋味
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2017-07-05T02:26
你定最低工資的時候怎麼想 地板就怎麼訂 覺得要死了
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2017-07-08T02:37
怎麼不想想年輕人
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2017-07-10T11:36
22k不錯
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2017-07-11T05:35
22k是要怎樣出國旅遊炒房買車啦?!叭叭~~阿扁下台
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2017-07-16T02:14
這樣沒尊$嚴$啦
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2017-07-20T21:39
支持 但是你們人數不夠
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2017-07-25T03:50
以退休金只養活自己且最低生活標準來說 中位數挺合理的
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2017-07-28T01:19
不給人旅遊是不是
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2017-07-31T05:37
讚!! 勞工退休天花版也才差不多22K
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2017-08-03T08:20
時代力量真的很想要年輕人的票 短視政策 以為降的越低
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2017-08-06T02:51
只剩時代可以寄望蠻可憐的
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2017-08-06T18:16
覺老崩潰
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By Lily
at 2017-08-10T20:45
吸引砲火
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2017-08-11T22:11
年輕人會領的越多? 這邏輯相當有趣啊 年輕人都不會老
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2017-08-13T15:50
是不是很多低能9.2 忽略了退休金只是要保有基本生活
品質 跟最低工資理念是一樣的
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2017-08-13T22:41
貧你老母~老一輩的有本事就拉高國民所得來均富阿
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By Skylar Davis
at 2017-08-18T18:24
讚 我投你一票
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2017-08-21T13:55
在職繳的不同,領的有差,勞工目前只繳6% 公務員繳12%
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2017-08-25T12:25
支持喔 科科
這路數正確 才不用管覺老那些抗議的
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2017-08-26T11:08
軍公教的退休金必須符合「算投保平均值 領=繳」
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2017-08-27T07:06
叫那些9.2不爽滾回支那去啊
William avatar
By William
at 2017-08-29T04:28
年輕人當然支持時力阿 藍綠根本不可能為年輕人設計法律的
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2017-09-01T08:34
公務員是該砍啦,但是砍到22K 只是在喊芭樂價平衡試院版
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2017-09-04T20:38
使用均貧卡
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By Poppy
at 2017-09-05T01:41
有夠惡搞 還一堆覺青瞎挺 只能說天祐台灣吧
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2017-09-05T04:33
幹這才對嘛
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2017-09-08T06:03
軍公教在職一個月要繳快1萬~勞工繳幾百~退休金當然不同
Una avatar
By Una
at 2017-09-08T15:29
推拉 誰給他過我投誰 垃圾人渣黨只會演戲 幹
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By Liam
at 2017-09-13T12:14
XDDDD
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By Mary
at 2017-09-13T14:58
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By Ina
at 2017-09-15T07:35
CenaC不要講屁話 現在年輕人對於未來退休有22k可以
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By Blanche
at 2017-09-19T04:13
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2017-09-20T19:29
這改革才實際 浮動式年金 永續可能高多了
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2017-09-21T23:20
領根本想都不敢想 不要只為了自己拖垮國家
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2017-09-22T19:15
推這個!不然基本工資的定義是啥?給老闆虛報用的嗎
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By Megan
at 2017-09-27T13:39
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2017-10-01T21:21
高潞極H
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2017-10-02T20:47
造反啦
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2017-10-06T05:47
推 "和物價指數隨時變動調整" 不是喊價隨便來的改革
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2017-10-06T17:15
22k怎麼出國玩
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2017-10-08T13:09
推,相比民進黨改得最後還年輕人吃屎,真是有在做事!!
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By Puput
at 2017-10-11T17:55
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2017-10-14T06:21
22K, XD
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2017-10-16T00:55
這才是正常的地板
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2017-10-21T00:18
勞保也要改啊
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2017-10-21T09:01
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2017-10-26T08:57
他們地板還有32K的話..那至少民眾薪水不到32K的免繳稅吧
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2017-10-26T23:27
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2017-10-30T08:00
支持!!!!大家一起領22K
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2017-10-31T18:28
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2017-11-05T15:22
職軍公繳快1萬?叭布啦!有種貼薪資條出來證明!!!
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2017-11-09T01:06
支持
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2017-11-10T18:43
22K 警世
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2017-11-14T06:15
總統定案了,時力沒用
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2017-11-14T18:18
推這個
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2017-11-16T10:03
支持
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2017-11-19T12:52
可惜現在執政黨不夠力
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2017-11-22T20:21
XD
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2017-11-25T04:43
喊爽的 反正又不是要吸引公務員的票
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2017-11-29T16:26
屎袋力量真的跟KMT一樣來亂的 22k是想害台灣薪水更低???
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2017-12-04T09:33
個人認為還是陳建仁提出的版本好耶
地板26K啦 不然真的沒尊嚴了
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2017-12-07T20:17
這樣改那些大媽們不燒了立法院才怪
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2017-12-10T19:20
DPP轉型正義都轉給既得利益者啊~ 對小英失望
James avatar
By James
at 2017-12-11T09:50
再者,12%也是用底薪算的,2萬多底薪*12%=1萬??勞工未來要
James avatar
By James
at 2017-12-15T16:22
改成繳18%,你公教根本佔便宜佔大了還敢該
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2017-12-16T16:07
真的做到下次就可以選總統
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2017-12-19T04:02
五席來騙票了 講一毛都不給也沒差 刷存在感
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2017-12-23T00:59
有本事通過就永遠投時代XD
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2017-12-24T23:15
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2017-12-28T13:32
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2017-12-30T15:55
DPP提出來的 只是讓破產往後延 不是真正一次解決的方法
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2018-01-03T23:55
喊爽的啦,民進黨不會鳥他們的
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2018-01-08T03:28
這個版本會過台灣三年內就統一了
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2018-01-11T01:47
垃圾資進黨 推
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2018-01-13T18:45
請做到
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2018-01-15T14:21
推推
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2018-01-17T05:10
最正常的版本,可惜顏色不對
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2018-01-17T18:44
以後慣老闆就說公務員才22k 勞工領12k就夠了 屎袋的功勞
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2018-01-19T13:35
立委年薪千萬要砍多少
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2018-01-21T10:03
沒差 反正誰支持年輕人就支持誰 事實證明選藍綠總被犧牲
William avatar
By William
at 2018-01-25T05:57
推18%歸零 不推退休金崩盤 那考上公務員的要幹嘛
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2018-01-28T14:51
這提案不錯 讓他們也享受到22k的待遇
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2018-01-29T18:10
做得到就支持。不要最後像民進黨一樣
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2018-02-03T13:42
這22k是退休金,很爽了好嘛
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2018-02-06T09:31
有夠扯,勞工在職領多少?
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By Sierra Rose
at 2018-02-08T20:34
噓屁
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2018-02-10T13:30
幹,智障均貧
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2018-02-13T11:04
這樓地板誇張低
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2018-02-17T20:11
可是時代只有5席 沒人響應根本成不了氣候
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2018-02-17T23:37
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2018-02-20T23:01
讚讚讚
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2018-02-23T11:09
22k確實太低 覺青務實點好嗎 至少要25k吧
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2018-02-26T21:12
推 DPP廢到比有剩
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2018-03-03T16:15
在拼經濟還是拼均貧
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2018-03-07T12:40
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2018-03-10T19:29
黑白臉 到時候公務員就會覺得dpp版不錯了
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2018-03-14T05:11
乾脆都保勞保
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2018-03-16T08:07
22k政策還一堆人推 真想知道屎袋到底請多少黨工在帶風向
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2018-03-19T01:18
OK!
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2018-03-20T03:41
呵呵 年金和月薪的關係是?講話用腦好嗎
David avatar
By David
at 2018-03-22T07:39
要這樣改請先證明大家支持這種方案 不要喊爽治國
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2018-03-25T13:39
22k 哈哈
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2018-03-27T04:29
可惜不會過
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2018-03-29T08:06
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2018-04-02T13:26
讚喔~ 我支持時代力量
DPP再心軟人家也不會感激
不如用時力的方案來得有效
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2018-04-02T19:39
怎不立法砍立委的錢
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2018-04-05T17:22
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2018-04-10T06:03
推時代
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2018-04-13T00:37
浮動式年金不錯
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2018-04-16T16:46
這根本屁孩立法嘛 反正不會過用數字羞辱人
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2018-04-16T18:51
可以浮動啊,隨最低薪資共進退 呵呵
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2018-04-19T05:51
22太低了啦 至少28-30啦 至於18% 支持時代提案
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2018-04-20T21:37
好喔 三年龜苓膏
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2018-04-25T13:24
勞工:22k怎麼活呀!
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2018-04-30T03:54
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2018-04-30T17:11
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2018-05-02T12:15
讚 一起22K阿
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2018-05-05T01:14
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2018-05-09T12:45
年輕人可以領22k,退休老人不能www
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2018-05-12T05:48
跟二例一樣 完全不經大腦的提案 只是假裝跟年輕人站一起
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2018-05-16T19:33
支持
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2018-05-20T12:33
時代這個最棒
George avatar
By George
at 2018-05-22T12:25
對啊 為啥退休不能領22k
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2018-05-27T03:20
希望在職軍公教都領22k 退休時才習慣
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2018-05-30T09:15
年金追著最低薪資才合理,勞工每個月自提才提幾千元
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2018-06-02T08:38
推時代
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2018-06-06T04:26
垃圾黨工一直噓耶,真的不怕大家記他們ID
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2018-06-08T07:00
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2018-06-08T09:29
大推
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2018-06-09T17:51
全國都領22k 剩錢給辛苦的總統 立委加薪 大家說好不好
歐 這裡不能噓歐?
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2018-06-11T04:49
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2018-06-15T23:54
年金隨基本薪資 讚讚讚
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2018-06-19T06:13
跟退休月領22k根本不成比例..
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2018-06-22T11:38
退休勞工才領不到19K 退休公務員22K算是便宜他們了
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2018-06-24T02:00
喊給選民爽的,專騙屁孩的政黨
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2018-06-27T20:37
為什麼離婚配偶也可以領?
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2018-06-29T22:55
不然勞工退休也給22K啊~你說好撲好~
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2018-07-04T02:45
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2018-07-05T03:48
笑了 那成立基金要幹嘛
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2018-07-06T00:44
洗錢炒樓出國保險育兒抱孫顧老治病養生全族轉十世,不夠
用呢
John avatar
By John
at 2018-07-06T22:36
時代力量提的不是一例一假嗎?怎麼變2例了?
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2018-07-08T06:43
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2018-07-10T08:03
DPP粉居然拼命幫18%退休公務員講話 只因為痛恨時力
一點中心思想也沒..
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2018-07-12T14:19
DPP 爛
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2018-07-16T05:26
退休沒做事22K很多了吧
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2018-07-20T19:50
15k還嫌多,蔣匪餘孽不爽就遣返支那,不然安樂死
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2018-07-24T02:59
這個數字才符合公平正義,推!
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2018-07-28T21:39
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2018-07-29T18:43
從這邊就可以證明我之前講的每個時段有八個人渣駐在版上
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2018-08-03T14:18
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2018-08-03T19:53
屎黨果然是共產黨在台灣的分部阿
皇狗娼Q.Q 為什麼民進黨要強行通過!!
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2018-08-04T13:44
那公務員提撥改成跟勞工一樣好不好?
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2018-08-05T00:08
扯均貧的人是嫌台灣貧富差距不夠大嗎?@@真心認真問
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2018-08-06T10:20
每個人渣至少有五組分身帳號,可創造40個不同帳號的推噓
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2018-08-07T10:08
勞工做事領22k.公務員退休領22k
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2018-08-10T17:00
最佳年金改革版本
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2018-08-11T21:42
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2018-08-12T11:37
屎袋一開始提的就是二例 少拿什麼一例一X一堆名詞護航
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2018-08-15T06:35
推個
David avatar
By David
at 2018-08-18T05:53
lapetos 你那麼清楚 請你明確指出那些帳號好嗎?
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2018-08-21T23:43
推,老吸血蟲快滾
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2018-08-24T21:42
勞工14K?
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2018-08-26T19:10
蔡丁貴表示
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2018-08-30T07:59
RW 因為dpp也一堆18%公務員阿 政務狗官也不少
屎黨屁孩莫名高潮了 結果黨主席也只能哭
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2018-09-01T03:51
太慢啦 建議六個月就歸零
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2018-09-02T19:32
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2018-09-03T15:22
不一樣就是不一樣 喜歡二例請找國民黨吧
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2018-09-08T05:46
幹,看到那個七年歸零我就覺得智障到有剩
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2018-09-08T14:47
一起貧啊哈哈哈
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2018-09-09T15:25
這種改法不如不要改,直接讓老藍覺把國庫領爆一起死
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2018-09-12T21:54
22k 然後取消兼差禁令
這樣不錯
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2018-09-14T20:27
白痴…跟共產黨有87%像
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2018-09-17T20:51
現在這種改法只是拖延破產時間而已,假掰到不行
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2018-09-18T22:07
不一樣在哪? 你連屎袋提什麼都不知道 別來裝中立護航 滾
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2018-09-20T15:24
怎麼不都保勞保
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2018-09-21T12:26
乾脆訂定不分職業統一分配每月薪資與退休金算了
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2018-09-25T19:19
讚喔
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2018-09-27T01:23
均貧?難道軍公教他們在職薪水是拿冥紙嗎?
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2018-09-29T15:51
推 政府沒賺錢公務員一起共體時艱
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2018-09-29T22:53
噴屎蛆想到不能出國炒房就會森77
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2018-10-01T04:21
退休金就是保障可以吃飯這樣,年輕時不儲蓄怪我囉?
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2018-10-04T01:06
樓地板比照最低基本工資?
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2018-10-06T08:10
下次我改投時代力量了 小英裡面就躲個國民黨 爛
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2018-10-09T06:31
2200就夠了
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2018-10-12T08:25
18%請直接歸零好嗎
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2018-10-13T06:35
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2018-10-14T14:08
怎麼幫小孩買房買車送出國讀書(學店)啦
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2018-10-18T17:24
公:我原本貸款買了瑪莎拉蒂 改22K怎麼養跑車拉~要尊嚴!!
Una avatar
By Una
at 2018-10-19T15:27
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2018-10-23T11:18
推 在職不存錢怪我嘍
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2018-10-24T19:15
18%時代也要拖個三年...
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2018-10-28T06:02
屎黨主席老婆和岳父 繼續跟敵國做生意!!
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2018-11-02T02:31
就一直噓一直噓 啊~風向已去 呵呵
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2018-11-05T22:36
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2018-11-09T21:20
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2018-11-12T13:16
半年內就可以歸零的東西要拖三年..
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2018-11-16T13:20
推 22k不能再多
John avatar
By John
at 2018-11-16T23:57
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2018-11-19T18:05
推,時代加油
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2018-11-23T03:32
不過我會噓回來
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2018-11-24T10:41
看了這個方案就爽
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2018-11-26T07:22
感動
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2018-11-28T19:06
講不出個屎就怪人一直噓 這不實際的無腦高潮政策不能噓?
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2018-12-01T01:41
這方案好多了 如果能做到的話拜拜啦資進黨 以後我現實生
活直接幫時力拉
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2018-12-02T14:05
超讚!
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2018-12-03T18:49
小滯台支那癌細胞都森77惹
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2018-12-07T18:46
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2018-12-12T10:43
推22k
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2018-12-12T12:59
你愛民進黨我沒意見啦,不過我不覺得貴黨的方案會更好
,畢竟樓地板超高的
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By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2018-12-13T09:01
支持
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2018-12-16T08:15
推 寅吃卯糧的做法撐不久的 早改晚改遲早還是得改的
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2018-12-18T00:25
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2018-12-22T02:37
真的是為黑而黑 樓地板很高的那個法案是DPP提的嗎ZZZZZZ
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2018-12-26T21:55
一般勞工退休有幾個可以領22k的?
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2018-12-29T21:21
22k不錯了 這些老人不是很有競爭力?
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2019-01-01T11:06
無腦在哪?可以請噓的人論述說明一下嗎?
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2019-01-04T07:40
那已繳納的提撥費用政府會歸還嗎
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2019-01-06T19:24
那個是考試院提的 考試院裡全部都是KMT提名的 關DPP屁事
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2019-01-07T14:19
時代敢推人選總統我一定投
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2019-01-07T16:06
呵呵,提醒你一下,執政黨是貴黨喔
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2019-01-07T22:35
這樣怎麼幫兒孫付房貸
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2019-01-12T11:55
22k 這次大推時代力量! 沒錯以其人之道還治其人之身
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2019-01-16T19:26
3年?1年吧
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2019-01-20T19:39
一堆鄉民在HIGH什麼!? 這是領樓地板22K的,只有3萬人內
而且大部分是老兵、老老師,其他退休公務員都4'5萬
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2019-01-21T12:02
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2019-01-24T15:24
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2019-01-26T18:59
讚 時代這案推得好
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2019-01-29T11:06
爽有屁用 皇狗娼最後還不是只能哭
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2019-02-01T05:05
要黑DPP看一下#1Ot8ogJj 現在立院是通過了嗎? 真的亂黑
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2019-02-06T03:37
不錯阿,讓那些人都體驗22K的感覺,整天嘲笑領22K的人,
看人家過得多痛苦
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2019-02-08T16:44
要HIGH一點就是所得替代率30%給它灌下去,公務員才會叫
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2019-02-11T19:11
欠投
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2019-02-12T00:04
天祐台灣!
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2019-02-14T19:51
不懂不妥在哪
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2019-02-15T16:56
還不錯
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2019-02-16T19:24
雖然法案不會過,有改革的勇氣給推
James avatar
By James
at 2019-02-19T02:13
推,幹你娘國民黨,廢物民進黨
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2019-02-19T13:30
讚 支持
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2019-02-20T02:02
改革的勇氣??有本事屎黨佔領立法院阿!!
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2019-02-24T22:01
然後不砍立委薪水 媽的
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2019-02-25T04:42
希望執政黨能站在歷史正確的那一邊,不要讓人失望了
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2019-02-26T00:27
原PO是不是把18%跟退休金弄混了…
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2019-02-26T13:15
很棒,但是不會過!喊爽的!
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2019-02-28T14:23
世代正義你老母 要不要投資成功的錢都分給失敗的
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2019-03-02T02:17
22k 繳不出炒房的房貸
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2019-03-03T22:58
爽領18%QQ
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2019-03-04T09:53
下次必選時力
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2019-03-08T20:30
9.2 森氣氣 氣噗噗
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2019-03-11T14:37
了不起,負責?
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2019-03-14T06:00
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2019-03-15T09:41
發現原來是山男哥 國民兩黨一條心 疑?
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2019-03-15T11:46
推啊 真爽
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2019-03-17T09:24
推 財政平衡機制
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2019-03-21T07:20
應該砍到跟一般勞工一樣,然後開放兼職
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2019-03-24T11:51
時力讚
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2019-03-28T04:59
說勞工一個月繳幾百的 你有把僱主要繳的算進去嗎
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2019-04-01T01:35
時力真的很民粹
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2019-04-04T21:01
立委福利先砍再說啦
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2019-04-07T02:51
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2019-04-07T08:10
口號人人會喊
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2019-04-11T16:27
還有 勞保有投保上限4萬多 要多繳還不給多繳咧
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2019-04-15T23:00
這版不錯,浮動機制確保生計、也合乎正義
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2019-04-19T07:02
這是在幫忙那些已經在彌留還硬被插管的老人 兒孫啃老啃到
讓長輩長年靠呼吸器維生 就為了從國家領插管老人的高額退
休金
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2019-04-22T18:11
閃兵屎袋對於壓榨勞工的慣老闆怎麼沒這麼硬?
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2019-04-27T15:44
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2019-05-01T05:02
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2019-05-01T16:21
9.2崩潰森氣氣跳腳中
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2019-05-02T13:47
John avatar
By John
at 2019-05-05T13:13
時代推案是不是都拿別人的來加碼一下都沒有自己的想法?
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2019-05-06T14:08
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2019-05-07T07:01
DPP黨工真他媽愚蠢
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2019-05-08T00:02
不能旅遊被關在台灣的憂鬱症你是要負責逆
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2019-05-09T14:39
支持
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2019-05-12T19:08
這些人愛嘴年輕人22K太多 就讓他們看看22K怎過活
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2019-05-15T17:48
覺老要崩潰啦
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2019-05-18T08:06
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2019-05-20T10:59
時代力量別想再得到我們的票 咦 老人有在投時力嗎?
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2019-05-22T04:29
推 這才是真正改革!
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2019-05-25T12:19
以前其他行業在大賺錢時,公務人員沒法加薪。現在回頭砍
以前人的福利是殺小概念?
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2019-05-27T14:09
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2019-05-31T08:13
哈哈砍得好 爽
John avatar
By John
at 2019-06-05T00:47
感覺時代這版本拿來跟DPP唱雙簧用的...
一邊砍的兇 另一邊反倒得到支持
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2019-06-08T09:10
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2019-06-10T22:06
會想貪污的自然會貪污,不用找任何藉口
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2019-06-11T06:59
炸彈客崩潰就是爽
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2019-06-12T03:10
推時力版本
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2019-06-13T12:37
以前賺大錢 那些公務員也沒有能力賺啦
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2019-06-15T19:47
跟著基本薪資調整好啊,大推
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2019-06-17T22:54
要不要改名叫共產力量啊
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2019-06-21T08:48
時力就算唱雙簧也強過不知民心改革的國民黨 也讓那些死
老猴知道什麼才是符合民意的地板
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2019-06-26T04:15
不推不行
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2019-06-26T14:23
push
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2019-06-27T17:59
推阿!支持這樣改
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2019-06-30T19:33
幹,公設比什麼時候要改0%
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2019-07-02T18:43
支持!!!~
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2019-07-03T07:54
推,但是應該不會被接受....
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2019-07-04T04:10
這才像樣
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2019-07-08T12:59
雖然贊成但是不太可能 最後淪為喊口號
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2019-07-13T07:56
給推
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2019-07-15T09:29
這應該得諾貝爾獎...
Faithe avatar
By Faithe
at 2019-07-16T07:14
讚讚讚
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2019-07-18T11:09
官不砍歐顆顆
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2019-07-19T17:43
推時代力量 真的認真 反觀他黨顏色最重要
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2019-07-22T21:09
沒做事的給22k很夠了
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2019-07-23T12:12
這關臺灣薪水低什麼屁事 不事生產的人可以拿22K
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2019-07-24T02:12
那代表你我的價值都遠遠超過22K 這明明是好事吧
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2019-07-24T09:20
樓地板又不是天花版,怕什麼,傻蛋喔
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2019-07-28T03:12
推時代
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2019-07-31T15:13
喊喊又不用錢
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2019-08-03T16:32
這版本才是正常的啦!讓公務員知道,不要跟我說22K活不
下去的話
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2019-08-05T09:12
22k會沒桃花
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2019-08-07T22:31
非公務員賺錢的跟現在沒退休保障的根本不同群
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2019-08-08T13:20
各種崩潰示範 笑死
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2019-08-09T05:15
混淆視聽
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2019-08-13T04:51
地板就基本薪資就好
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2019-08-17T08:39
推認真做事的政黨
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2019-08-19T10:25
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2019-08-20T23:10
幹我要淚投時力了
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2019-08-24T05:39
22k炒股炒房不夠啦!
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2019-08-24T21:24
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2019-08-25T09:47
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2019-08-28T03:45
尊嚴!!
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2019-08-31T20:57
砍立委跟議員月薪好嗎?一堆拿錢不做事,冗員,素質低落
,滾出台灣啦
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2019-09-01T07:54
高潞極H到底是有多H
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2019-09-02T23:38
黨工薪水會增加嗎?
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2019-09-04T22:39
廢除現有的制度,之前繳的,全數退還,之後也不用再繳了,退
休金自己存,國家就不會破產了。
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2019-09-08T14:24
22K一定革命給你看
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2019-09-12T00:20
好狂阿!!
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2019-09-13T15:11
好險沒做軍公教,做到退休然後被汙辱個沒止境
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2019-09-14T02:01
上次不分區投時力投的對 下次繼續投 讚讚
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2019-09-14T08:40
真TM的好呀!
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2019-09-15T23:29
不錯
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2019-09-19T18:02
這個好多了,喊六年擺明想連任
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2019-09-22T03:47
噓全面八卦黨
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2019-09-25T15:06
果然很好笑
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2019-09-26T02:14
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2019-09-29T04:21
這個制度支持,不過會反彈的更大
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2019-10-04T00:43
John avatar
By John
at 2019-10-07T12:22
唯一支持
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2019-10-08T21:47
作秀
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2019-10-13T13:10
應該1年退場 樓地板15k
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2019-10-14T05:03
沒在工作22k很夠用ㄌ好嗎
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2019-10-14T18:37
推3年歸零 地板22K 糙你老師的人渣公務員 年輕人只
要22K就能過活 老不死的軍公教為啥22K就活不下去? 糙
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2019-10-16T05:06
反正砍別人都沒關係 別砍自己就好 鄉民不意外 XDD
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2019-10-17T16:41
22k只能炒小套房
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2019-10-20T13:28
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2019-10-20T18:51
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2019-10-25T03:52
支持
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2019-10-26T03:07
這還差不多
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2019-10-30T02:46
只顧年輕人的版本,理想與現實分不清楚,這種下去,必
定暴動,在野就是在野
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2019-10-30T14:49
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2019-11-02T21:47
22k怎麼幫米國的小孩繳學費
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2019-11-05T17:48
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2019-11-08T03:02
年輕人要領高薪 然後照年資慢慢扣薪!!
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2019-11-11T20:42
讚啦 下次投時代
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2019-11-13T06:27
改是肯定的 不過如果這方案百分百不會過XD
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2019-11-14T00:52
22K XDD
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2019-11-15T20:09
歸零3年合理. 樓地板我覺得三萬也OK
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2019-11-16T09:30
支持 拜託下ㄧ次能推出個總統
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2019-11-17T01:52
時力要這樣吸引選票沒關係啊,坐看文官制度崩毀吧!
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2019-11-20T16:14
一堆人只想著報復中老年人,心態還真的是很健康。
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2019-11-23T03:36
22K 看來以後薪資都要比照這數字了XDDDD
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2019-11-24T09:46
騙票一流
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2019-11-26T02:58
根本沒想到國家與政府的安定,喊爽的而已
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2019-11-30T19:49
推,這版不錯
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2019-12-02T10:23
自己拿22k覺得被欺負,所以掌權後也要欺負回來?要讓
國家毀滅就大家一起來鬥爭吧,可笑
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2019-12-03T18:21
比照最低薪資好了。共體時艱對吧XD
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2019-12-08T16:02
這版本就對了
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2019-12-09T23:47
David avatar
By David
at 2019-12-10T13:39
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2019-12-13T00:05
不是執政黨就要敢提案啊 要不然跟執政黨一樣還有差嘛
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2019-12-16T23:41
這版本比垃圾民進黨 好多了!!
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2019-12-17T17:57
這就對了
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2019-12-21T11:11
推啊
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2019-12-22T08:35
發動均貧卡
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2019-12-22T16:45
22k要怎麼養活我們ㄧ家大小十三口
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2019-12-25T14:40
要污名反尊嚴
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2019-12-28T01:24
全民退休22專案 好棒棒
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2019-12-29T18:37
這太狠了吧= =
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2020-01-02T13:15
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2020-01-06T23:10
覺青不用工作 65以後也可以領22
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2020-01-09T22:16
恩,本來就該歸0了~馬的,勞工為何沒有18%
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2020-01-13T14:16
一個月22K超多的欸
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2020-01-18T06:35
還有慈善單位可以救濟榮民啊,台灣最美麗的風景是人
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2020-01-20T14:26
勞工要繳18%快了偶
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2020-01-22T13:40
支持!
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2020-01-24T06:12
軍公教根本過太爽 還給啥月退 時力最好立法 軍公教子女
一律只能領18k 償還我們血汗納稅錢
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2020-01-28T17:35
全部沒收好不好 人民當家
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2020-01-29T23:47
公務員敢推22k就要承擔
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2020-02-02T09:04
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2020-02-06T22:35
下次要投時力了
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2020-02-08T07:37
何不投共黨? 通通勞改 顆顆
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2020-02-08T20:19
支持
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2020-02-13T13:48
民進黨讓我失望 只好改投時代了
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2020-02-14T12:40
9.2蠢蛆森7囉
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2020-02-17T19:22
反觀民騙黨
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2020-02-20T12:23
一堆文字障礙的 是“地板”22K 又不是“天花板” 自己看看
現在低於地板人數有幾個?
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2020-02-24T21:35
要求改成22k天花瓣
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2020-02-28T01:20
所以我說就是騙票那個公物人員地板22k顆顆
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2020-03-01T20:36
給推
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2020-03-06T01:16
說實在 砍不到高官就沒用 永遠只是下層互咬
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2020-03-06T20:47
還不錯阿 然後再給在職公務員加薪 更好
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2020-03-07T20:05
動樓地板要幹嘛?該去動替代率,不要欺負那些基層
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2020-03-09T13:54
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2020-03-09T22:46
舊制就是一代公務員養三代的概念
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2020-03-14T09:18
天花板22k再說吧 樓地板根本假議題
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2020-03-15T09:07
你是要害那些炒房軍公教被斷頭跳樓嗎?
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2020-03-18T07:37
可支配所得中位數很合理啊,退休金又不是你的薪水
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2020-03-19T09:27
有改天花板啊
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2020-03-24T05:48
希望能早點還社會公平正義
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2020-03-25T16:15
這樣不能炒房了 會斷頭
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2020-03-27T20:43
推讓長輩們感受一下22K
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2020-03-29T04:15
浮動制是還蠻合理的,不過是多久浮動一次啊?
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2020-03-30T07:22
22k這個好
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2020-03-30T22:38
XDDDDD
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2020-03-31T01:01
不過歸零的話保證被大包圍…給個2%意思意思?
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2020-03-31T10:38
時代力量:反正你們的選票也不會是我們的,砍爆你們
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2020-04-05T08:27
666
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2020-04-09T05:56
幹得好呀,反正9.2的票也不會投給時力
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2020-04-13T20:32
這不是錢的問題 我們為了國家犧牲奉獻 還要被打壓
有沒有天理啊
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2020-04-17T20:43
慢慢來可以嗎
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2020-04-19T05:48
致敬22K給推
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2020-04-19T14:28
把全台灣的人都弄成22k嘻嘻 財團笑呵呵
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2020-04-22T06:22
綠都慢慢來了還不是一堆人渣抗議 時力的保證暴動
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2020-04-26T13:15
反對的本來就不會投時力,根本不用理那些人
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2020-04-28T08:17
有理
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2020-04-30T18:56
黨工好緊張喔,拼命噓
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2020-04-30T20:59
不砍高官就是玩假的啊XDDDD
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2020-05-03T18:49
22k要怎麼活!!!都揮霍慣了!!!!!
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2020-05-08T01:20
怕貪污?現在領這麼多 是有比較清廉嗎?
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2020-05-08T14:40
政風死了是不是 起來認真抓貪污啊
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2020-05-10T23:52
國外評比台灣政府 清廉程度排名都倒數的
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2020-05-14T15:58
建議把樓地板直接用法定最低工資, 以後避免每年修法
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2020-05-18T07:57
不就下限,什麼樓地板
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2020-05-21T14:22
時代的提案,民進黨又不會理
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2020-05-25T00:52
怎麼那麼多噓.. 退休本來就低一點沒關係了啊 沒存錢嗎
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2020-05-26T15:35
推這版本,到底在跟那群蛆蟲客氣什麼
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2020-05-27T10:39
夠種
David avatar
By David
at 2020-05-30T08:09
這版本讚,就跟著最低工資走
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2020-06-02T09:52
我要從dpp倒戈了
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2020-06-07T07:30
時代也知道不可能成功 只是提出來讓支持者過過乾癮
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2020-06-10T23:13
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2020-06-12T16:45
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2020-06-17T05:14
22K剛剛好
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2020-06-20T18:12
覺老:要尊嚴(X) 要錢(O)
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2020-06-24T17:44
只能噓了...
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2020-06-29T12:03
22K怎麼吃大餐?炒股票?
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2020-06-30T20:19
推時力
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2020-07-03T22:59
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2020-07-04T08:55
民進黨真的退步 六年歸零真鳥
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2020-07-04T10:49
大推
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2020-07-08T06:41
Una avatar
By Una
at 2020-07-11T11:50
中肯 退休金本來就是基本生活所需啊 退休 不用工作 22k剛好
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2020-07-12T07:49
支持
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2020-07-15T04:05
笑死 砍都還沒砍到先設地板32160
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2020-07-19T22:20
要$尊$嚴$!
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2020-07-23T02:32
看覺青崩潰就要推了
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2020-07-27T06:15
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2020-08-01T01:45
你有看到旁邊 還在工作 每天累到跟狗一樣 只領22-3Xk的嗎
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2020-08-05T06:37
只有時力敢說真話
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2020-08-08T00:30
大推
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2020-08-12T16:58
誰砍,我就投誰。
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2020-08-13T20:37
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2020-08-16T19:11
支持時力、台聯、基進側翼 淘汰狼狽為奸的國民黨&民進黨
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2020-08-21T01:07
改革就要改到定位 只要不用政府貼補不管領多少都沒意見
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2020-08-23T23:03
台灣人就是見不得別人好
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2020-08-24T22:50
自給自足 公務員要有退場機制 在職加薪都支持
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2020-08-28T00:20
沒法源依據應該立刻停止啊
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2020-08-29T22:48
讚,這樣才叫改革
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2020-08-30T11:41
光是軍公教退休金有樓地板就他媽的扯了,結果他們的樓地板還
比一堆年輕人的薪水高,這樣國家不倒才怪
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2020-08-30T14:01
年輕人不也領22K
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2020-09-02T21:07
重點是天花板,勞工是有上限的
沒有設立上限根本不算改革
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2020-09-05T15:49
22K多了點吧?退休還比照最低薪資?
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2020-09-05T20:22
當天花板到了才不會有人一直卡位,早點讓位讓公務體
系活力化
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2020-09-07T06:56
才不想要為了那幾個不肯用現代工具的老爺們不改革
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2020-09-11T11:32
民代 政務人員也一起砍一砍 公平不能只做一半
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2020-09-16T09:49
高級群體嘲諷~給推
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2020-09-17T15:17
要公平就要各階層都公平 民代 政務人員更是社會亂源
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2020-09-20T05:32
基層砍比較少,高層砍比較多就叫做護基層,這種話術實
在呵呵
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2020-09-21T15:11
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2020-09-23T06:47
推啊 憑啥要辛苦賺錢的工人還去養公務員
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2020-09-27T00:56
太棒了 支持均貧力量
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2020-09-30T09:15
做了再說
Suhail Hany avatar
By Suhail Hany
at 2020-09-30T12:40
22K沒辦法出國了
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2020-10-02T11:01
有腦的人就是不一樣啊!
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2020-10-02T13:32
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2020-10-05T15:19
本當如此
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2020-10-07T02:30
三年歸零給推!
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2020-10-11T21:36
讚!
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2020-10-13T02:01
三年歸0和現在歸0是一樣的
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2020-10-17T10:57
覺老崩潰囉!
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2020-10-18T20:52
推..
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2020-10-23T11:31
無條件基本收入讓所有人都有尊嚴
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2020-10-26T03:23
Una avatar
By Una
at 2020-10-27T01:32
一年就歸零吧 三年太長了
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2020-10-29T19:06
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2020-11-02T07:33
支持現在歸0
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2020-11-05T04:45
抗議這樣他們就不能炒房惹
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2020-11-06T02:41
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2020-11-09T01:20
被民進黨騙票
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2020-11-12T10:25
最好菜政府馬上照此案實施
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2020-11-14T17:56
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2020-11-19T03:48
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2020-11-21T19:51
推 此案一過 炒房繳不起房貸 賣房變現 房價不知會跌多少
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2020-11-26T19:11
某些台灣人就是早期把持資源被後人拔還會有人護航
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2020-11-29T17:05
前十樓帶風向失敗XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
覺醒老年加油點好嗎?
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2020-12-01T19:41
這才是就事論事的版本!
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2020-12-04T08:00
http://talk.ltn.com.tw/article/breakingnews/1822018
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2020-12-06T09:14
希望能實現
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2020-12-11T08:14
蠻符合現實面的
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2020-12-15T05:00
這才是真改革
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2020-12-15T06:00
22k有點太狠了
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2020-12-16T08:07
22k怎麼報效祖國!
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2020-12-16T22:39
推!推!!!
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2020-12-20T10:55
讚,真正跟年輕人站在一起的政黨
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2020-12-20T22:59
支持砍高官
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2020-12-22T02:52
13%跟老農津貼都不講啊 他們覺得合理?
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2020-12-25T15:26
支持
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2020-12-28T12:17
砍別人的年金我也喜歡啊 立委年薪千萬都不用被檢討?
立委9A的部分現在改了多少?
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2020-12-29T16:25
強烈要求地板跟著最低薪資走,這樣在討論最低薪資的
時候公務員才不會事不關己
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2020-12-30T20:26
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2021-01-03T10:56
這樣就對了
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2021-01-06T09:52
勞工月繳幾百塊退休都能領兩萬多了 軍公教月繳數千塊以後
也是要領兩萬多?
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2021-01-08T10:31
我支持
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2021-01-08T23:46
時力推
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2021-01-09T19:34
勞工最低薪資是軍公教的錯? 沒技術沒專長 只會怪別人?
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2021-01-13T00:03
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2021-01-13T12:00
超支持
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2021-01-14T20:27
這是地板 還是很高
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2021-01-17T09:06
用這個大概會暴動吧XD 民進黨不會用啦
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2021-01-21T10:51
支持
James avatar
By James
at 2021-01-24T17:17
這個不可能過會武裝革命喔
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2021-01-29T01:23
下次票投時代
James avatar
By James
at 2021-01-30T23:19
以後只投時代力輛
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2021-01-31T03:29
如果他們提立委年薪砍半 我也會支持他們
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2021-02-03T12:28
支持用最低工資
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2021-02-05T21:18
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2021-02-07T09:00
看戲中
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2021-02-11T11:13
推推
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2021-02-14T14:57
這版本成功我發光所有P幣
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2021-02-15T07:26
22k沒辦法炒地皮ㄌㄚ
Una avatar
By Una
at 2021-02-16T18:14
米蟲要尊嚴
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2021-02-21T04:06
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2021-02-21T13:14
22K很不錯啊
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2021-02-24T04:11
爽喔 當年亂砍公司分紅 這只能說活該
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2021-02-25T09:38
支持
George avatar
By George
at 2021-03-01T13:37
David avatar
By David
at 2021-03-02T16:24
退休的吸血蟲
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2021-03-04T00:40
好耶
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2021-03-04T20:14
22k太多了
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2021-03-05T07:46
我支持立委也領22k,全國統一薪資22k。
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2021-03-05T18:42
看覺醒米蟲崩潰就是爽
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2021-03-10T10:05
不可能會過的放心好了
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2021-03-15T08:03
完全支持
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2021-03-16T18:53
媽的一堆既得利益者
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2021-03-19T20:02
要22K綁死台灣人一輩子嗎?
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2021-03-23T05:48
假改革 為何不是10K?
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2021-03-26T08:15
收割力量又在趁機賺選票了 @@
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2021-03-30T17:01
樓地板22K。18%才有樓地板 ,沒18%的沒有,哭哭
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2021-04-02T09:33
原來公務員的退休金設計目的是「基本生活所需」啊
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2021-04-06T00:00
怎麼還沒看到廢物老人自焚表演一下尊嚴?
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2021-04-10T23:07
勞工中位數平均四萬多
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2021-04-13T11:54
勞工月繳幾百元,公繳四千五千
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2021-04-14T20:43
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2021-04-19T15:08
以後只繳公保幾百元就ok,去你的退輔儲金
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2021-04-24T07:15
estela 可以看鄭南榕啊~
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2021-04-26T11:10
公布後直接歸零啦
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2021-04-27T05:34
之前還有人期待時力比兩黨好 現在看來根本笑話
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2021-04-28T14:53
時力就是好
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2021-04-30T00:48
超棒的,以後給民眾22k的服務,執行率22趴也別靠么。
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2021-05-01T23:49
拿香蕉只能請到猴子 上班的時候表現像隻猴子就好了
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2021-05-04T01:45
來這裡看老廢物崩潰超爽derrrrr
Kelly avatar
By Kelly
at 2021-05-06T10:44
水桶預備~~~
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2021-05-11T04:08
公務員不會崩潰啦,很快就知道吃虧的是誰了。
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2021-05-14T21:30
原來選票能決定他人的退休金財產喔? 剩香蕉只好另尋他人了
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2021-05-19T03:18
早該這樣做了 @@
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2021-05-19T12:03
我認為不能說就給民眾22k的服務,畢竟砍的是退休金非在職
薪水,即使認為退休金為薪水之一也是如此,要講給多少錢的
服務也該說那就給民眾40k/50k(帶入自己薪水)的服務,講給2
2k的服務實在對不起自己所領的薪水及價值。
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2021-05-21T04:03
大家好像專注在"讓別人領少點",而不是"大家領多一點"
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2021-05-23T16:58
一群趴代力量!
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2021-05-26T22:10
齊頭式平等不太好,勞工有人年薪百萬,有人22k,有人
抱著改善外包心態轉任公職,從百萬變幾十,公務人員
有人盡心盡力,有的人擺爛打混。
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2021-05-30T14:32
推樓上不ㄓ幾樓,22K自己要檢討一下,OS:我是勞工
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2021-06-01T00:28
為何不馬上 立刻歸零
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2021-06-01T11:36
建議即刻歸零 天花板22K才是最佳解
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2021-06-04T02:05
時力是來搶選票 吸選票的 他們這版本不可能過 志在參加
我在此建議時力 把金額定在8千一 / 哇哈哈哈哈哈哈
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2021-06-08T19:34
拜託,立委和立委助理工資也22k好了
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2021-06-11T20:28
舒服
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2021-06-12T02:35
這才是有改吧
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2021-06-13T06:14
那總統禮遇金也22k 反正滿足基本生活所需即可

考試請假該請事假嗎?

Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2017-03-28T23:11
代po,發文者沒有在用ptt的習慣 --------------------------------------------------- 小魯初任公職考上了105地特三 只是機關好像是出了名的雷 想要用考高考的方式換機關 只是聽同學說考試請公假會很黑 所以連續兩天該請事假嗎? 正常來說主管會一直 ...

在這樣的基礎上要如何團結比較適合?

Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2017-03-27T10:38
老屁股 早年當公務員很容易 還有省籍配額工友轉正關說等等特殊方法 工作環境早期極悠閒 免加班刁民少媒體相對友善 近期環境變差但屎缺給小屁股扛即可 繳較少+退較早+緩改 小屁股 近年苦讀以極低錄取率考上 工作環境當下頗惡劣 猛加班刁民多媒體製造仇恨 未來只希望更多認份小屁股來扛屎缺 繳較多+退較晚+一改再改 ...

這次基礎訓第一梯有沒有當人?

Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2017-03-26T23:14
其實我不懂為啥大家那麼怕被當 就理性分析上,重訓效益大於不重訓 一般來說你薪資andgt;重訓費用 而且比上班輕鬆,如果重訓的話就把之前做報告經驗拿來用 反正報告大家都不高分 上兩次課所以對題目更熟悉 更重要是可以離開機關去玩、交朋友 不用辦公文跟看長官臉色 其實我不懂為啥大家對於重訓被當那麼 ...

軍公教月退地板32160元 28日送總統敲定

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By Eartha
at 2017-03-26T16:59
軍公教月退地板32160元 28日送總統敲定 〔記者羅添斌/台北報導〕軍公教年金改革方案大致底定,對於軍公教人員退休後可領18%優惠款利息的月退金「樓地板」,年改會已建議訂為3萬2160元,負責年金改革的行政院政務委員林萬億今天表示,28日將呈報年改會的建議案由蔡英文總統敲定,成為行政院年金改革版的一部分; ...

面試心得(乾坤/正新/台灣荏原/Lam/)

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By Megan
at 2017-03-26T11:28
當初面試時參考版上許多文章 覺得非常受用,現在來回饋一下~ 背景: 116理工學 114理工碩 多益830 碩論為LED相關 服裝:白襯衫+黑色卡其褲+休閒的西裝外套 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 乾坤 職缺:製程良率儲備幹部 流程: 面試之前人資會先要求 ...