板上很多人討論的台積電 part-2 - 工程師
By Frederica
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at 2015-07-11T08:56
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2012年初曾經在板上post一篇同名的文章(有興趣請往前翻)
那篇主要是以一個台積菜鳥的眼光
回饋給一些正要找工作或是尚未到職的新鮮人的一些資訊
畢竟取之於科技版 就盡量回饋一些我覺得版上比較少提到的觀點
今天往回看 觀念上大致沒有需要修正的地方
(一些時空背景造成的工時或是錄取門檻當然是有差異)
目前小弟在GG服役也近四年(時光飛逝....)
趁著今天休假想要分享一下從一個小菜工程師到現在升為leader的心路歷程
看著周圍的新人老人來來去去 人事流動的巨大漩渦 分享一下這幾年的一些經驗
希望可以對版上的一些職場新鮮人有些幫助
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2015開始開始進入管理"人"的階段 看著來來去去的新面孔
其實不難看出那些成長曲線好與快速殞落的新人具備的特質差異
1.大家都是聰明人
現在GG新人沒有所謂學不會教不懂的情形 大家都很smart講了就懂
在公司會遇到反應慢或是天賦有限的情況其實都會在部分老屁股身上
我想這就是GG近年來審視學歷近乎瘋狂的成效吧!!
遇到好幾個EE都是血統純台大+台大碩士(非冷門科系)絕不誇張
RD有博士不稀奇 但是現在整合也不少喔!!
有些老闆篩選面試者 常常一開口就要求是雙台大碩士(台大學士+碩士)
2.耐操是基本但不是絕對
耐操是基本 但是work smart絕對是脫穎而出的關鍵
快速殞落的新人基本上是缺"耐操"這一塊
但是也有很多耐操但是一直苦無promote機會的人,很多因素則是在於work smart這部分
聰明與巧思往往可以讓你在新人期一炮而紅 增加你的能見度!!
說服老闆在眾多新人中選擇你賦予大任
3.成長良好新人的特質
細心:細心絕對重要 做事細心=減少MO風險 老闆會信任這種人(至少不會出trouble)
好奇心:遇到不會的事情不能只當伸手牌跟前輩直接要答案
反過來說直接給你答案的人並不是一個好老師
新人在了解遇到的問題架構觀念後 應該要自行去找出解決之道
這過程可以訓練解決能力並透過跨部門溝通快速培養人脈
企圖心:多管多問與自己不相干的事情 不要因為是別人的職責領域就不聞不問
遇到不解就私下請教 日後絕對用得上
責任心:負責的態度比耐操重要太多了 要讓主管覺得可以安心把事情交給你
你能幫忙cover事情絕對比你每天瞎忙到11~12點有意義太多了
相反的說 能力不好 責任感不佳 又每天準時走的人就是那種快速殞落型
4.多寫report吧!
在台積report能力是非常重要的 在新人剛開始的1~2年比較閒
應該培養每件事情都要寫成正式report的習慣
一來讓你主管知道你做了些什麼 二來訓練快速整理&表達的能力
PS.當年我的buddy要求我每個issue都至少要有one page report
平均一天要寫上至少3次, 很感謝他的正確教導~~
題外話 我的buddy是個奇人, 2年32 5年33 7年掛副理
所以我相信他對新人的指導應該是正確無誤的
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以上是我師傅指導我 而且我也認同並且繼續以此指導新工程師的準則
在台積每天高工時高壓力的情況下4年真的是眨眼就過了
最後要說 每個人的個性和人生規劃本來就不同
在台積工作只有適合與不適合並沒有對與錯
並不用因為工作上的挫折或是離職就否定自己 每個人選擇本來就不同
2012年那篇文章是用新人的角度給GG求職者的資訊
2015年這篇則是用菜leader的角度給一些新工程師的建言
希望可以幫助到一些人 並且有些不同意見的人可以互相討論一下觀念
畢竟我覺得版上這類型的文章真的不是很多
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那篇主要是以一個台積菜鳥的眼光
回饋給一些正要找工作或是尚未到職的新鮮人的一些資訊
畢竟取之於科技版 就盡量回饋一些我覺得版上比較少提到的觀點
今天往回看 觀念上大致沒有需要修正的地方
(一些時空背景造成的工時或是錄取門檻當然是有差異)
目前小弟在GG服役也近四年(時光飛逝....)
趁著今天休假想要分享一下從一個小菜工程師到現在升為leader的心路歷程
看著周圍的新人老人來來去去 人事流動的巨大漩渦 分享一下這幾年的一些經驗
希望可以對版上的一些職場新鮮人有些幫助
------------------------------------------------------------------------
2015開始開始進入管理"人"的階段 看著來來去去的新面孔
其實不難看出那些成長曲線好與快速殞落的新人具備的特質差異
1.大家都是聰明人
現在GG新人沒有所謂學不會教不懂的情形 大家都很smart講了就懂
在公司會遇到反應慢或是天賦有限的情況其實都會在部分老屁股身上
我想這就是GG近年來審視學歷近乎瘋狂的成效吧!!
遇到好幾個EE都是血統純台大+台大碩士(非冷門科系)絕不誇張
RD有博士不稀奇 但是現在整合也不少喔!!
有些老闆篩選面試者 常常一開口就要求是雙台大碩士(台大學士+碩士)
2.耐操是基本但不是絕對
耐操是基本 但是work smart絕對是脫穎而出的關鍵
快速殞落的新人基本上是缺"耐操"這一塊
但是也有很多耐操但是一直苦無promote機會的人,很多因素則是在於work smart這部分
聰明與巧思往往可以讓你在新人期一炮而紅 增加你的能見度!!
說服老闆在眾多新人中選擇你賦予大任
3.成長良好新人的特質
細心:細心絕對重要 做事細心=減少MO風險 老闆會信任這種人(至少不會出trouble)
好奇心:遇到不會的事情不能只當伸手牌跟前輩直接要答案
反過來說直接給你答案的人並不是一個好老師
新人在了解遇到的問題架構觀念後 應該要自行去找出解決之道
這過程可以訓練解決能力並透過跨部門溝通快速培養人脈
企圖心:多管多問與自己不相干的事情 不要因為是別人的職責領域就不聞不問
遇到不解就私下請教 日後絕對用得上
責任心:負責的態度比耐操重要太多了 要讓主管覺得可以安心把事情交給你
你能幫忙cover事情絕對比你每天瞎忙到11~12點有意義太多了
相反的說 能力不好 責任感不佳 又每天準時走的人就是那種快速殞落型
4.多寫report吧!
在台積report能力是非常重要的 在新人剛開始的1~2年比較閒
應該培養每件事情都要寫成正式report的習慣
一來讓你主管知道你做了些什麼 二來訓練快速整理&表達的能力
PS.當年我的buddy要求我每個issue都至少要有one page report
平均一天要寫上至少3次, 很感謝他的正確教導~~
題外話 我的buddy是個奇人, 2年32 5年33 7年掛副理
所以我相信他對新人的指導應該是正確無誤的
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
以上是我師傅指導我 而且我也認同並且繼續以此指導新工程師的準則
在台積每天高工時高壓力的情況下4年真的是眨眼就過了
最後要說 每個人的個性和人生規劃本來就不同
在台積工作只有適合與不適合並沒有對與錯
並不用因為工作上的挫折或是離職就否定自己 每個人選擇本來就不同
2012年那篇文章是用新人的角度給GG求職者的資訊
2015年這篇則是用菜leader的角度給一些新工程師的建言
希望可以幫助到一些人 並且有些不同意見的人可以互相討論一下觀念
畢竟我覺得版上這類型的文章真的不是很多
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