當公立高職老師或工程師 - 工程師

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※ 引述《quickgun (無聊了)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《class177 (class177)》之銘言:
: : 小弟我師大電機碩班明年要畢業了
: : 即將進入社會(但沒工作過)
: : 不知到這兩項工作該怎麼選擇
: : 因為各有優缺點 讓我難以選擇
: : 麻煩前輩們給些建議 謝謝
: 我能替老師的環境給你做一點分析 看你要不要來
: 薪資:
: 老師(做了10年破不了百 很透明 你應該可以查到
: 老了可以一直領? 到時領不領得到是個問題
: 我爸說當時政府只給老師2000月薪時
: 就摸老師頭說現在沒錢 以後用18%和退休金補貼 現在呢?? 過街老鼠 人人喊打
這是最氣人的,爽的明明都是退休或是屆退的,現在年輕的,福利一直被砍,事情越來越
多,而且通常剛進去最菜的都是去接行政或一些屎缺,,卻同樣要被打
: 政府也幫著打呢
: 所以你現在看到的 不一定是你以後領到的 錢沒進錢包 不要說是自己的)
: 工時:
: 老師
: 你逃不了導師的 也逃不了第八節的
: (7:30到校 到一直17:00 中午你敢不去看吃飯 午休屁孩會吵翻天 和玩弄食物
: 所以是很紮實的7:30到17:00 但看的到夕陽拉 也可在學校運動)
蠻好奇你爸真的是天天7:30上班,17:00下班嗎?
: 爽度
: 老師
: 寒暑假終於放假了 你以為逃的了輔導課嗎??
: 一節給你360 就買你的假日了 甚麼 加班薪水要加? 沒這回事
國中360~500元,各縣市情況不同,高中職是400~500
: 上完寒暑輔 抱歉 要開學了 暑假上六周 寒假上兩周
寒暑輔是學校自訂,現在公立的通常只有升上高三才有寒暑輔
: 除非你是教體育 音樂 美術 爽爽科 那就有完整寒暑假
: 老師可以離開學校買菜 你離離看阿 這很看學校風氣 還有該老師背景 不是常態
依規定不行,但實話實說,是常態
: 唯一的好處 亂搞變黑五類 其他職業變黑都是賽 就老師變黑是越變越爽
現在很多的小孩越來越不尊師重道、抱怨老師。加上投訴管道方便,家長、小孩也
越來越愛投訴,太混的老師、上課太無趣、不太管小孩的老師通常都會黑掉,輕則學
生在網路上罵,重的就是被打1999之類的。現在家長和學生很難搞的。不過老師基本
上算是鐵飯碗,如果臉皮夠厚,笑嬤由人,倒也無所謂。在公立學校教書是責任制、是
良心事業,上完課拍拍屁股走人的有、課後額外把學生留下來加強輔導、參加競賽的
也有、比小孩的家長還盡責照顧小孩的有,純粹看你的教學熱忱和良心。
: 家長怕你教他小孩 學校只好安排教無關緊要的課 超爽 每天放影片 寒暑假放假
: 認真的老師 學校就會給你操到死 真的是奇怪的生態
教師年薪跟電子業相比真的不高,以碩士學歷來說大概要年資20以上才有百萬,
但如果有心要賺錢,管道很多,從違法的家教、補習兼課,甚至開補習班的都有,
只要不太過招搖、人際關係不要太差,沒人投訴你就沒事。就算是在學校合法賺的也
很多,補救教學、重補修、暑輔、大考的監考人員、選舉監票人員等,上述這些,絕大
部分的老師能推掉就推,只要有心要賺,學校很樂意塞給你,同事也會感激你幫了他的
忙,不只賺了錢,人際關係也會變好呢。
論待遇,薪水不是教師的強項,只是會發現通常教師也不會想要額外賺很多錢,能只上基
本鐘點的、能推掉補救教學、重補修、暑輔..等等是最好的。生活品質、樂趣,能不
能準時(or 提早?)回家帶小孩、寒暑假能不能出國玩才是教師們在乎的。忘了說,有
個同事懷孕請產假、育嬰假、侍親假什麼的,也不知道她是怎麼請的,總之透過種種合
法方式已經一年半沒來上班了XD
公立教師與科技業,大概就是 一個是有時間沒錢,一個是有錢沒時間,就你想過怎樣生活
--
: ※ 引述《class177 (class177)》之銘言:
: : 小弟我師大電機碩班明年要畢業了
: : 即將進入社會(但沒工作過)
: : 不知到這兩項工作該怎麼選擇
: : 因為各有優缺點 讓我難以選擇
: : 麻煩前輩們給些建議 謝謝
: 我能替老師的環境給你做一點分析 看你要不要來
: 薪資:
: 老師(做了10年破不了百 很透明 你應該可以查到
: 老了可以一直領? 到時領不領得到是個問題
: 我爸說當時政府只給老師2000月薪時
: 就摸老師頭說現在沒錢 以後用18%和退休金補貼 現在呢?? 過街老鼠 人人喊打
這是最氣人的,爽的明明都是退休或是屆退的,現在年輕的,福利一直被砍,事情越來越
多,而且通常剛進去最菜的都是去接行政或一些屎缺,,卻同樣要被打
: 政府也幫著打呢
: 所以你現在看到的 不一定是你以後領到的 錢沒進錢包 不要說是自己的)
: 工時:
: 老師
: 你逃不了導師的 也逃不了第八節的
: (7:30到校 到一直17:00 中午你敢不去看吃飯 午休屁孩會吵翻天 和玩弄食物
: 所以是很紮實的7:30到17:00 但看的到夕陽拉 也可在學校運動)
蠻好奇你爸真的是天天7:30上班,17:00下班嗎?
: 爽度
: 老師
: 寒暑假終於放假了 你以為逃的了輔導課嗎??
: 一節給你360 就買你的假日了 甚麼 加班薪水要加? 沒這回事
國中360~500元,各縣市情況不同,高中職是400~500
: 上完寒暑輔 抱歉 要開學了 暑假上六周 寒假上兩周
寒暑輔是學校自訂,現在公立的通常只有升上高三才有寒暑輔
: 除非你是教體育 音樂 美術 爽爽科 那就有完整寒暑假
: 老師可以離開學校買菜 你離離看阿 這很看學校風氣 還有該老師背景 不是常態
依規定不行,但實話實說,是常態
: 唯一的好處 亂搞變黑五類 其他職業變黑都是賽 就老師變黑是越變越爽
現在很多的小孩越來越不尊師重道、抱怨老師。加上投訴管道方便,家長、小孩也
越來越愛投訴,太混的老師、上課太無趣、不太管小孩的老師通常都會黑掉,輕則學
生在網路上罵,重的就是被打1999之類的。現在家長和學生很難搞的。不過老師基本
上算是鐵飯碗,如果臉皮夠厚,笑嬤由人,倒也無所謂。在公立學校教書是責任制、是
良心事業,上完課拍拍屁股走人的有、課後額外把學生留下來加強輔導、參加競賽的
也有、比小孩的家長還盡責照顧小孩的有,純粹看你的教學熱忱和良心。
: 家長怕你教他小孩 學校只好安排教無關緊要的課 超爽 每天放影片 寒暑假放假
: 認真的老師 學校就會給你操到死 真的是奇怪的生態
教師年薪跟電子業相比真的不高,以碩士學歷來說大概要年資20以上才有百萬,
但如果有心要賺錢,管道很多,從違法的家教、補習兼課,甚至開補習班的都有,
只要不太過招搖、人際關係不要太差,沒人投訴你就沒事。就算是在學校合法賺的也
很多,補救教學、重補修、暑輔、大考的監考人員、選舉監票人員等,上述這些,絕大
部分的老師能推掉就推,只要有心要賺,學校很樂意塞給你,同事也會感激你幫了他的
忙,不只賺了錢,人際關係也會變好呢。
論待遇,薪水不是教師的強項,只是會發現通常教師也不會想要額外賺很多錢,能只上基
本鐘點的、能推掉補救教學、重補修、暑輔..等等是最好的。生活品質、樂趣,能不
能準時(or 提早?)回家帶小孩、寒暑假能不能出國玩才是教師們在乎的。忘了說,有
個同事懷孕請產假、育嬰假、侍親假什麼的,也不知道她是怎麼請的,總之透過種種合
法方式已經一年半沒來上班了XD
公立教師與科技業,大概就是 一個是有時間沒錢,一個是有錢沒時間,就你想過怎樣生活
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