科技業中年的定義 - 薪水

By Madame
at 2016-11-16T12:56

Table of Contents

※ 引述《ccpb64 ()》之銘言：
: 這議題討論已久，讓我來客觀回答
: 台灣的所謂的科技業，機乎都是cost down獲利，並且是以營利為公司營運目標。
: 人事成本當然也是cost down的重點之一，除非公司非你不可，但沒有人是不可取代，隨
: 著年資升高，薪水也升高，老闆當然找一個薪水便宜又能做同樣事情的人來替換。
: 常聽到有人講，工作要不斷累積實力，但問題是自己能強到公司沒你就倒? 就算你真的強
: 到台灣只有你會這個東西，但科技產品週期五到十年就逐漸消失在市場，你還有什麼一技
: 之長。同樣要作新產品，找畢業工作三到五年的來學習，老闆何必要用年資薪水高的你。
: 至於這間公司可以做到幾歲，你就自己觀察公司平均年齡和同事大概幾歲，心裡就可以有
: 底。
: 不要在有自己實力累積，就不會失業的想法，老闆要不要多花錢用你，才是重點。
: 分紅費用化是科技業的致命傷，同樣做到四十多歲失業，但前人已累積財富，你還在揹房
: 貸，要怎麼繼續賺錢，先想好這個難題。
阿這
與其講中年失業
倒不如說是錢不夠用八
有點像人家在講的那葛財富自由
不過我覺得沒事講財富自由的有八成講不出葛賺錢的屁招

科技業麻
本質就是變化變化就是不穩定
所以很難像醫生老師公務員貨傳產之類的穩穩賺
但是變化同時帶來機會
所以半路撈翻的也不少見

我觀察這摸多年
科技業員工大概分成差不多六種類結局:

第一類:
大公司創辦人董事長總裁CEO CXO 總經理大大大VP
然後一直作做到七老八十惹還在作
位高權重 $$自是不在話下活者就是秋三小

第二類:
大公司高層不想做惹退下來
$$當然是花不完就沒捨摸權偶爾嘴砲兩句刷存在感
總之爽翻惹

第三類:
有撈過起碼一筆以上升不上去也不怎摸想升上去反正$$夠惹
隨時退休都沒問題就繼續作拼出東西會有成就感
算是深度技術人士的理想狀態
矽谷這種人還不少

第四類:
有撈過一票不過對技術對產業興趣普普
所以還年輕就退休開始爽惹一般講財富自由幻想的大概就這種
平常就吃喝玩樂爽
我猜金山街應該很多房東算這類der

第五類:
就捨摸都沒賺到或是賺到又亂投資賠掉
可能升上去過可是公司整併部門裁撤抱錯大腿等各種原因下來惹
年紀越大越擔心被裁員失業
載浮載沉
年紀到惹沒辦法好只好省吃儉用退休

第六類:
就第五類那種真的四五十歲中年失業GG
再起不能
最慘的是沒捨摸積蓄
只能幫QQ

第一二類就先不談
版上年輕人多
可能會覺得變成第三第四類都是運氣好
普通人不是第五類就是第六類
不過內
在業界混久惹
我覺得喇
應該要知道:
捨摸公司可以去可以賭捨摸公司不能去不能賭
捨摸產業可以投資捨摸產業不能投資
捨摸股票可以買捨摸股票不能買
捨摸大腿可以抱捨摸大腿不能抱
捨摸朋友可以信捨摸朋友不能信

這些東西搞清楚惹
時間到惹自然會有機會加減撈一筆
錢多惹就不擔心中年失業惹

總之
記住一件事
科技業的本質
就是
變化
所以
爽的時候記得居安思危
苦的時候記得尋找機會

大guy4這樣
認同請分享

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Tags: 薪水

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at 2016-11-17T19:40

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at 2016-11-18T00:06

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at 2016-11-19T14:16

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at 2016-11-21T05:10

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at 2016-11-22T22:36

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at 2016-11-25T17:16

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at 2016-11-28T07:19

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at 2016-12-02T17:00

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at 2016-12-05T18:23

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at 2016-12-08T17:12

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at 2016-12-12T16:24

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at 2016-12-14T22:36

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at 2016-12-19T15:16

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at 2016-12-23T19:24

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at 2016-12-25T04:24

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at 2016-12-29T03:43

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at 2017-01-01T04:05

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at 2017-01-01T11:27

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at 2017-01-06T16:55

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at 2017-01-09T19:55

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at 2017-01-10T14:26

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at 2017-01-12T02:08

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at 2017-01-15T10:49

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at 2017-01-17T02:10

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at 2017-01-19T20:36

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at 2017-01-27T23:11

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at 2017-01-28T07:53

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at 2017-02-03T14:54

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at 2017-02-03T16:58

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at 2017-02-07T00:38

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at 2017-02-09T00:10

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at 2017-02-13T22:54

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at 2017-02-18T11:59

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at 2017-02-23T07:52

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at 2017-02-23T13:53

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at 2017-02-26T15:38

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at 2017-02-28T19:36

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at 2017-03-05T05:15

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at 2017-03-09T06:32

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at 2017-03-11T11:50

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at 2017-03-12T04:55

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at 2017-03-15T11:43

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at 2017-03-19T21:08

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at 2017-03-21T06:29

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at 2017-03-22T21:15

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at 2017-03-27T07:35

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at 2017-03-29T21:36

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at 2017-03-30T04:28

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at 2017-03-30T13:41

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at 2017-04-02T18:50

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at 2017-04-03T15:13

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at 2017-04-06T16:21

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By Brianna
at 2017-04-11T11:02

第七類在科技業打雜的根本沒賺到錢學無所長

By Adele
at 2017-04-11T20:30

教主住哪？聖
誕節時方便朝聖嗎？

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at 2017-04-16T15:24

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at 2017-04-20T11:30

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裝況嗎？

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at 2017-04-23T09:55

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at 2017-04-25T16:32

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at 2017-04-28T11:03

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at 2017-04-28T23:53

還有一類第一第二類的親兒子

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at 2017-05-03T17:23

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at 2017-05-06T15:22

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at 2017-05-08T09:20

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at 2017-05-11T13:01

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at 2017-05-14T15:17

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at 2017-05-15T03:33

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at 2017-05-18T05:33

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at 2017-05-23T04:56

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at 2017-05-27T05:19

做到第四類就不容易了

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at 2017-05-30T11:30

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at 2017-05-31T20:14

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at 2017-06-03T02:54

此時唐鳳搔搔頭，笑了一笑，心想: 還在我不只混科技界。

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at 2017-06-03T15:48

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at 2017-06-08T01:53

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at 2017-06-11T23:24

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at 2017-06-12T13:32

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at 2017-06-15T13:02

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at 2017-06-19T17:58

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at 2017-06-20T12:41

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at 2017-06-30T16:31

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at 2017-07-03T18:34

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at 2017-07-06T11:57

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at 2017-07-08T23:49

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at 2017-07-12T15:55

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at 2017-07-16T19:12

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at 2017-07-23T16:41

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By Christine
at 2017-07-27T20:43

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at 2017-07-29T05:34

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at 2017-08-03T03:14

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at 2017-08-06T18:15

隔壁可以看104履歷的老王都知道中年失業慘慘慘

By Eden
at 2017-08-06T22:56

叫煮大概速那一類，說來聞香一下

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at 2017-08-07T07:01

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at 2017-08-11T08:52

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at 2017-08-15T20:45

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at 2017-08-18T20:13

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at 2017-08-20T14:34

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at 2017-08-24T09:40

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at 2017-08-25T19:07

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at 2017-08-28T22:15

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at 2017-09-01T13:36

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at 2017-09-02T06:35

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at 2017-09-03T12:16

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at 2017-09-05T10:13

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at 2017-09-06T20:56

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at 2017-09-11T12:26

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at 2017-09-13T09:54

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at 2017-09-15T22:42

的確是透徹的分析

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at 2017-09-16T15:13

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at 2017-09-19T10:15

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at 2017-09-20T20:15

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at 2017-09-22T14:09

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at 2017-09-27T01:07

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at 2017-09-29T18:23

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at 2017-10-01T12:19

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at 2017-10-02T12:12

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at 2017-10-04T17:54

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at 2017-10-07T20:44

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at 2017-10-10T10:56

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at 2017-10-13T10:04

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at 2017-10-16T01:12

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at 2017-10-20T20:32

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at 2017-10-21T06:38

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at 2017-10-23T13:47

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at 2017-10-26T04:45

\obov/\obov/\obov/\obov/\obov/\obov/

By Robert
at 2017-10-26T20:14

我是第五類往第六類走。

By Yuri
at 2017-10-26T21:36

看來家人算第三或第四果然年代有差

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at 2017-10-31T05:43

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at 2017-11-03T11:16

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at 2017-11-06T01:35

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at 2017-11-07T16:04

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at 2017-11-12T01:41

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at 2017-11-12T15:49

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By Poppy
at 2017-11-13T13:32

開示

By Edward Lewis
at 2017-11-18T07:20

教主

By Hazel
at 2017-11-22T15:40

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at 2017-11-25T18:52

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at 2017-11-30T00:56

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at 2017-12-04T15:49

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at 2017-12-09T05:21

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By Bethany
at 2017-12-09T17:36

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By Rosalind
at 2017-12-11T23:07

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By Una
at 2017-12-16T17:30

六類以後=>匪類也是活著在秋三小QQ

By Hedwig
at 2017-12-19T02:18

想抱教主大腿……

By Kristin
at 2017-12-20T01:24

教主萬歲萬歲萬萬歲

By Frederica
at 2017-12-21T11:53

跪著看完教主的po文，快要射惹

By Quintina
at 2017-12-26T08:32

教主～～

By Steve
at 2017-12-27T21:04

教主！

By Selena
at 2017-12-28T03:16

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By Noah
at 2017-12-30T03:32

By George
at 2017-12-30T20:14

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By Leila
at 2018-01-02T22:39

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By Necoo
at 2018-01-06T11:13

教主萬歲萬歲萬萬歲

By Carol
at 2018-01-09T02:27

推教主

By Frederica
at 2018-01-09T17:31

太神啦

By Lydia
at 2018-01-12T03:29

OBOV~~~~

By Freda
at 2018-01-16T09:09

這篇怎麼這麼正經

By Harry
at 2018-01-16T13:36

純推教主

By Zanna
at 2018-01-18T05:04

請問教主現在台灣好撈一票嗎?

By Yedda
at 2018-01-19T10:43

推

By Hazel
at 2018-01-24T09:16

蟹蟹教主～小的明白惹

By Ida
at 2018-01-27T17:42

這篇太中肯

By Kristin
at 2018-01-28T15:09

謝教主開釋

By Candice
at 2018-02-01T10:49

教主之言如醍醐灌頂

By Eden
at 2018-02-04T05:05

哭惹，要在台灣撈一票很難，老闆還會嗆你在沖沙小

By Sandy
at 2018-02-05T03:07

這篇太中肯

By Quanna
at 2018-02-05T15:49

台灣現在很難撈一票阿 QQ

By Rae
at 2018-02-09T04:48

奇怪不是還有輪班救台灣嗎 ?

By Caroline
at 2018-02-14T04:06

爽的時候記得居安思危苦的時候記得尋找機會好對子

By Mary
at 2018-02-15T09:26

推個

By Robert
at 2018-02-17T21:38

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By Rachel
at 2018-02-18T07:42

推一下

By Skylar Davis
at 2018-02-22T04:59

教主請示

By Suhail Hany
at 2018-02-24T10:15

教主開示啊！！

By Ivy
at 2018-02-25T23:06

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By Selena
at 2018-03-02T19:39

謝教主開示

By Zenobia
at 2018-03-03T22:25

教主股票賺翻了現在應該算是第三類嗎 QQ

By Kama
at 2018-03-08T03:48

推教主

By Irma
at 2018-03-10T08:42

精闢分類, 推推

By Iris
at 2018-03-11T03:50

本魯要把這篇當桌布

By Kumar
at 2018-03-14T01:50

感恩開示

By Leila
at 2018-03-17T20:32

大推

By Carolina Franco
at 2018-03-21T23:46

那你amd賣掉幾張了

By Genevieve
at 2018-03-24T17:42

教主~~~

By Doris
at 2018-03-27T11:10

教主優文！

By Anonymous
at 2018-03-29T10:02

你好好打字不行嗎...何必怪腔怪調的...

By Daph Bay
at 2018-03-31T05:52

這篇可以當作科技版聖經了吧！感動推

By Selena
at 2018-04-03T12:22

推推

By Olga
at 2018-04-07T08:32

my bible

By Michael
at 2018-04-10T13:11

教主文成武德，……千秋萬載，一統江湖

By Noah
at 2018-04-11T13:14

教主!!!!!!!!

By Skylar Davis
at 2018-04-12T19:14

教主晚安

By Heather
at 2018-04-13T10:32

教主萬歲

By David
at 2018-04-15T16:01

讚讚！

By Oscar
at 2018-04-16T08:50

推！

By Charlie
at 2018-04-19T23:39

推推

By Frederic
at 2018-04-24T23:10

教主安安

By Iris
at 2018-04-27T16:21

教主!!!!!!!!

By Todd Johnson
at 2018-04-30T05:10

推

By Quintina
at 2018-05-01T15:53

教主認真文開示!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Delia
at 2018-05-03T01:08

教主啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊

By Elizabeth
at 2018-05-07T12:39

you reap what you soooooow

By Joseph
at 2018-05-08T20:46

推

By Oscar
at 2018-05-13T07:59

Obov's hierarchy of 科技肥宅! 媲美馬斯洛的需求層次論!

By Tristan Cohan
at 2018-05-13T15:27

照你的說法台灣可以賭的公司超過10家嗎

By Harry
at 2018-05-18T07:46

教主推

By Queena
at 2018-05-22T19:08

請問那邊有教主的課程可以報名嗎?

By Odelette
at 2018-05-24T06:21

推推

By Blanche
at 2018-05-24T12:43

教主開示 QQ

By Christine
at 2018-05-26T13:16

教主QQ

By Una
at 2018-05-27T13:58

0b '_'0v

By Emily
at 2018-05-28T00:18

教主 ob'_'ov

By Ethan
at 2018-06-01T05:20

推推推

By Damian
at 2018-06-05T19:20

謝教主開示教主文成武德一統江湖

By Odelette
at 2018-06-09T19:29

不愧是庫克愛將

By Iris
at 2018-06-12T05:07

挖

By Suhail Hany
at 2018-06-13T12:14

Super☆Risky Stacking

By Suhail Hany
at 2018-06-16T15:42

教主認真了!!!!!!

By Madame
at 2018-06-19T20:24

教主開示啦啦啦啦啦

By Quintina
at 2018-06-20T03:02

朝聖推

By Andy
at 2018-06-23T12:52

教主開釋,我要做第一類人,下輩子

By Olivia
at 2018-06-26T01:10

朝聖

By Hardy
at 2018-06-27T03:51

ob'_'ov

By Lydia
at 2018-07-02T01:57

By Edwina
at 2018-07-04T16:04

hail obov

By Agatha
at 2018-07-08T09:50

推

By Thomas
at 2018-07-09T10:19

推

By Quintina
at 2018-07-10T11:29

教主~！！

By Edwina
at 2018-07-12T18:17

教主

By Daph Bay
at 2018-07-17T04:07

教主這麼認真

By Joe
at 2018-07-19T04:20

push

By Dora
at 2018-07-22T21:10

push~~

By Edith
at 2018-07-26T22:30

只能認同阿

By Hardy
at 2018-07-27T05:05

ob' 'ov

By Oliver
at 2018-07-31T00:56

已跪

By Suhail Hany
at 2018-08-04T01:09

只能跪了

By Cara
at 2018-08-07T00:53

教主在科技版的文章都真的超級正常+中肯

By Susan
at 2018-08-11T10:46

推有變化就會有機會

By Xanthe
at 2018-08-13T09:02

在變化的產業中追求穩定事實上是很困難的不如追求機會

By Charlotte
at 2018-08-14T21:33

蠻中肯的教主應該是3

By Iris
at 2018-08-16T06:53

推葛居安思危 QQ

By Candice
at 2018-08-16T11:36

絕對絕望

By Leila
at 2018-08-17T04:29

推

By Bethany
at 2018-08-21T09:15

luv luv uuu

By Ivy
at 2018-08-24T17:16

推！

By Connor
at 2018-08-26T22:03

教主威武

By Sarah
at 2018-08-30T15:21

居安思危，尋找機會

By Sarah
at 2018-09-01T17:26

推

By Joe
at 2018-09-03T17:07

推推推

By Poppy
at 2018-09-06T05:58

前四類僅存在於45歲以上，曾領到大把股票的人

By Todd Johnson
at 2018-09-06T14:29

謝謝前輩指教！最後兩句真的好

By Elizabeth
at 2018-09-10T17:32

推

By Michael
at 2018-09-13T20:56

教主開釋，雙腿已跪

By Christine
at 2018-09-17T17:11

教主中肯

By Ula
at 2018-09-19T18:54

心有戚戚焉給推

By Rachel
at 2018-09-22T20:49

第一類不認同啦身邊的70歲還在拼事業飛機飛來飛去
的
不是每葛都爽爽的

By Anonymous
at 2018-09-26T14:32

讚嘆教主

By Bennie
at 2018-09-29T08:44

推教主

By Heather
at 2018-09-29T15:47

推

By Victoria
at 2018-09-30T14:00

推

By James
at 2018-10-02T17:47

推

By Sierra Rose
at 2018-10-07T05:14

推

By Annie
at 2018-10-07T17:20

這篇在後來不斷被教主引用~

科技業中年的定義 - 薪水

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