近九成勞工 未參與勞退自提 - 薪水
By Rae
at 2022-01-12T11:46
at 2022-01-12T11:46
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這不就是個數學問題嗎
勞退的主要問題有兩個:
1.投資績效太差 輸台股大盤太多(台股是大部分人的投資方式)
2.無法分批提領 要等到60歲才能領回
愛因斯坦說過: 世界第八大奇蹟就是複利
假設一塊錢,年化投資報酬率為8%(約等於0050),20年後為4.66倍
假設被扣了最高的40%稅率,還是有2.79倍
但如果你選擇了勞退自提,我們假設報酬率只剩一半
年化報酬率為4%,20年後為2.19倍
因此就算當年度被扣了40%的稅,你20年後的報酬還是高過自提
若是你年齡小於40歲 or 稅率小於40% ,這個差距只會更大
當然我也不能保證未來0050報酬率是否會高於政府的投資績效這麼多
但以過去的數據,是有可能發生的
若你有以下條件,我認為選擇勞退自提是可能比較划算的
1.年齡夠大
2.薪水夠高,稅率至少在30%以上
3.投資方式為極保守型(定存 債券類)
但對大部份年輕人而言,我相信是不適合選擇自提的
大家自己算算看就知道了~
有錯的話還請指教
※ 引述《apoenzyme0 (apoenzyme)》之銘言:
: : 我是提好提滿啦
: : 勞退基金報酬率是其次
: : 主要可是遞延稅負 幸運點還能適用試用較低的稅務級距
: : 大家有自提勞退嗎?
: : ps.別再說勞退會倒了 勞退和勞保不同=.=
: 自提6%,反正月薪只佔年薪約30%, 30%*6% = 1.8%
: 如果差這一點點就生吃都不夠. 那問題不是這一點點,而是原本就不夠
: 績效的話其實還好.
: 108年個人勞退帳戶是155萬,年底收益是17萬
: 109年個人勞退帳戶是190萬,年底收益是萬11.6萬
: 110年還沒給但可以用新聞推算.
: 基本上一開始累積比較慢,但金額起來後,大約複利5~6%收益率.
: 且一年可以省稅2萬多.除非股神等級,不然可以多少放一些
: 另外勞保會掛是領得人太多,繳的人太少.
: 但勞退是個人帳戶,擔心勞退會被充公,
: 那表示你也該擔心個人資產,包含存款,股票,不動產,保險
: 所有在中華民國政府下的財產都有可能被充公.
: 那不只勞退不提, 所有的財產建議都移往海外.
: 最後要靠勞退來補退休生活也是傻了, 大概不到兩年就花光了
: 這只是分散平常投資風險的一小部分.
: 一般也很少建議將所有投資押寶在某樣特定對象.
: 勞退不過就是將投資金額中不到一成的比例放在相對穩定的部分.
: 許多人一年含公司+自提 快要連一張0050都買不起了.
: 那些喊不如拿去買0050的,真的有買?
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