鴻海設廠美國威斯康辛州 - 工程師
By Ina
at 2017-07-27T08:01
at 2017-07-27T08:01
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之後在美國要加入海邊現在算是一個好時機
過來人算是給點意見
pros:
1.
任何公司都一樣 包括海邊 剛創立時薪水最好談
要知道在美國的台商薪水給的出名的低 一年四萬鎂都敢給
在剛創廠時加入 雖然拿不到頂薪 但該州畢業生平均上下絕對有機會談到
2.
現在進去 之後也算是創廠元老
想升想加薪速度會是一般公司的數倍
不過前提是你也要有相對應的能力
不然十年後就會跟你在軍中看到的那些老學長一樣
新人私底下說你蠢 但你什麼都不知道 每天威風頂頂的
3.
會辦簽證
綠卡可能要做很久才有機會
cons:
1.
不要以為蓋在國外就是用外商的方式再經營
去glassdoor上面查一下就能發現多數老外還是再抱怨用中文溝通的情況非常厭重
而且中國工作文化也會一起被帶來
他們對於這樣的工作環境相當感到不滿
如果說板上之前罵海邊的管理的蠢有87分
來美國也只是78分而已 不會低多少
順帶一題 e-mail容量最高還是只會是500MB
2.
發展受限
這種超級大型工廠 開出來的缺絕大部分都會是工業工程的帶線缺
如果你打算回台灣 這樣的經驗可能要稍微想一下
個人是覺得 pp bd 或是財經相關 在這種大型工廠做過之後
不管去哪裡都會蠻吃香的
要說工業工程唯一的好處就是 因為你是在初期加入
所有的npi以及蓋廠前的規劃 你都看的到 會學到很多 很好玩
至於之後想在美國繼續待著 受到親朋好友說 foxconn是五百強欸 超好跳的 的人
請先去翻一下linkedin上面看看其他人有沒有這樣的經驗
如果懶得找 我這邊直接跟你說答案
我至今只有看到一位 在foxconn做了八個月 就跑去美國的conring
不過對方是喬治亞理工 gpa 4.0畢業的神人
其他大概都是在富士康做了非常久(大概5-10年) 才跳到其他美商
不然就是繼續在其他台商圈裡面跳
有沒有辦法撐這個久 會不會前功盡棄 一切都是你得忍這麼久
3.
永遠不會學以致用
特定職缺除外 不然87成只有IE缺
4.
砍人不手軟
內部是台企 中企工作文化
不過表面上使用美商文化 砍人不手軟
聽過一整組team做不好 全部砍掉
也看過三個月試用期一到 立刻叫人走人
實力不好只是想混薪水的的人要小心
大概是這樣
最後初期建廠 海邊會很需要中國或是台灣的工程師過去支援
表現好的 有機會被叫去 至於被叫去出差 生活的環境我就不多說了
但真的很優秀的人 海邊有機會直接讓你內轉美國 還不錯
請目前在台灣或中國的海邊工程師好好把握
※ 引述《ECZEMA (曬黑的妳)》之銘言:
: Sourc: CNN
: Link: https://goo.gl/P5PJbD
: Time: July 26, 2017 12:54 PM Eastern Time (發文時間兩小時前)
: Title: Trump set to announce new U.S. factory by top Apple Supplier
: 川普準備宣佈由蘋果主要供應商設立的新美國工廠
: Abstract: President Trump will announce Wednesday that Foxconn,
: one of Apple's top overseas suppliers, is opening a new factory
: in Wisconsin, according to a senior administration official.
: 川普總統明天會宣佈主要蘋果供應商 鴻海-富士康-夏普 即將落腳威斯康辛州
: Content:
: Trump told the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday that the Taiwanese manufacturer,
: best known for assembling iPhones, was considering building a plant in
: Wisconsin.
: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker tweeted Wednesday about a "major jobs announcement"
: with Trump scheduled for later in the day.
: 威斯康辛州州長也宣佈即將有七十億美金和五萬個工作落腳該州
: Reps for Foxconn did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
: Foxconn previously told CNNMoney "it is not currently possible to confirm
: the locations for those potential investments or estimate the number of jobs
: that might be created."
: Shortly after Trump's inauguration, Foxconn's CEO Terry Gou began teasing
: plans to invest more than $7 billion in a plant for producing displays,
: with the potential to create as many as 50,000 jobs.
: However, Gou has been talking about shifting some manufacturing to the
: United States for several years, with little to show for it so far. In 2013,
: for example, Foxconn announced plans to build a $30 million plant in
: Pennsylvania. It has yet to be built.
: 鴻海2013年曾晃點賓州
: This time, Foxconn may be coaxed by generous tax incentives. The Milwaukee
: Journal Sentinel reports Wisconsin's deal for the new Foxconn plant may
: include incentives totaling as much as $3 billion.
: Related: Trump says Apple to build "3 big plants, beautiful plants" in US
: Foxconn had considered building the plant in Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania,
: among other states.
: 川普曾說 就蘋果一家 就能帶來三間大的工廠
: Foxconn currently has facilities in Virginia and Indiana, each of which
: employ fewer than 1,000 workers, according to its website.
: 鴻海在維州和印州已各有一間千人的工廠
: The announcement may give Trump a victory as he looks to bring back jobs.
: Trump also recently said Apple (AAPL, Tech30) plans to build "three big plants
: , beautiful plants" in the U.S.
: But Foxconn -- and Apple -- may struggle to transport their manufacturing
: success abroad to the U.S.
: Foxconn grew into a powerhouse for electronics manufacturing for Apple,
: Microsoft (MSFT, Tech30), HP (HPQ) and others thanks to its ability to staff
: its factories with cheap labor in China.
: At its peak, Foxconn employs more than one million people. Employees live on
: factory campuses and have been known to work far more hours for far less pay
: than would be acceptable under U.S. labor laws.
: 鴻海帝國有百萬人
: At times, Foxconn's workplace demands have resulted in worker riots and
: suicides. In fact, Foxconn installed nets outside buildings to catch workers
: trying to jump to their deaths.
: 自殺頻傳所以建物外設自殺防護網
: It's also unclear if Wisconsin, or any state for the matter, can supply Foxconn
: with the thousands of skilled laborers it would need to manufacture electronics
: at scale.
: Comment:
: 下一間應該是 TSMC 大股東美國 人力水電又划算 主要客戶都在美國
: 台灣留美理工研究生一年有七千人 只招純台灣人都夠用
--
過來人算是給點意見
pros:
1.
任何公司都一樣 包括海邊 剛創立時薪水最好談
要知道在美國的台商薪水給的出名的低 一年四萬鎂都敢給
在剛創廠時加入 雖然拿不到頂薪 但該州畢業生平均上下絕對有機會談到
2.
現在進去 之後也算是創廠元老
想升想加薪速度會是一般公司的數倍
不過前提是你也要有相對應的能力
不然十年後就會跟你在軍中看到的那些老學長一樣
新人私底下說你蠢 但你什麼都不知道 每天威風頂頂的
3.
會辦簽證
綠卡可能要做很久才有機會
cons:
1.
不要以為蓋在國外就是用外商的方式再經營
去glassdoor上面查一下就能發現多數老外還是再抱怨用中文溝通的情況非常厭重
而且中國工作文化也會一起被帶來
他們對於這樣的工作環境相當感到不滿
如果說板上之前罵海邊的管理的蠢有87分
來美國也只是78分而已 不會低多少
順帶一題 e-mail容量最高還是只會是500MB
2.
發展受限
這種超級大型工廠 開出來的缺絕大部分都會是工業工程的帶線缺
如果你打算回台灣 這樣的經驗可能要稍微想一下
個人是覺得 pp bd 或是財經相關 在這種大型工廠做過之後
不管去哪裡都會蠻吃香的
要說工業工程唯一的好處就是 因為你是在初期加入
所有的npi以及蓋廠前的規劃 你都看的到 會學到很多 很好玩
至於之後想在美國繼續待著 受到親朋好友說 foxconn是五百強欸 超好跳的 的人
請先去翻一下linkedin上面看看其他人有沒有這樣的經驗
如果懶得找 我這邊直接跟你說答案
我至今只有看到一位 在foxconn做了八個月 就跑去美國的conring
不過對方是喬治亞理工 gpa 4.0畢業的神人
其他大概都是在富士康做了非常久(大概5-10年) 才跳到其他美商
不然就是繼續在其他台商圈裡面跳
有沒有辦法撐這個久 會不會前功盡棄 一切都是你得忍這麼久
3.
永遠不會學以致用
特定職缺除外 不然87成只有IE缺
4.
砍人不手軟
內部是台企 中企工作文化
不過表面上使用美商文化 砍人不手軟
聽過一整組team做不好 全部砍掉
也看過三個月試用期一到 立刻叫人走人
實力不好只是想混薪水的的人要小心
大概是這樣
最後初期建廠 海邊會很需要中國或是台灣的工程師過去支援
表現好的 有機會被叫去 至於被叫去出差 生活的環境我就不多說了
但真的很優秀的人 海邊有機會直接讓你內轉美國 還不錯
請目前在台灣或中國的海邊工程師好好把握
※ 引述《ECZEMA (曬黑的妳)》之銘言:
: Sourc: CNN
: Link: https://goo.gl/P5PJbD
: Time: July 26, 2017 12:54 PM Eastern Time (發文時間兩小時前)
: Title: Trump set to announce new U.S. factory by top Apple Supplier
: 川普準備宣佈由蘋果主要供應商設立的新美國工廠
: Abstract: President Trump will announce Wednesday that Foxconn,
: one of Apple's top overseas suppliers, is opening a new factory
: in Wisconsin, according to a senior administration official.
: 川普總統明天會宣佈主要蘋果供應商 鴻海-富士康-夏普 即將落腳威斯康辛州
: Content:
: Trump told the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday that the Taiwanese manufacturer,
: best known for assembling iPhones, was considering building a plant in
: Wisconsin.
: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker tweeted Wednesday about a "major jobs announcement"
: with Trump scheduled for later in the day.
: 威斯康辛州州長也宣佈即將有七十億美金和五萬個工作落腳該州
: Reps for Foxconn did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
: Foxconn previously told CNNMoney "it is not currently possible to confirm
: the locations for those potential investments or estimate the number of jobs
: that might be created."
: Shortly after Trump's inauguration, Foxconn's CEO Terry Gou began teasing
: plans to invest more than $7 billion in a plant for producing displays,
: with the potential to create as many as 50,000 jobs.
: However, Gou has been talking about shifting some manufacturing to the
: United States for several years, with little to show for it so far. In 2013,
: for example, Foxconn announced plans to build a $30 million plant in
: Pennsylvania. It has yet to be built.
: 鴻海2013年曾晃點賓州
: This time, Foxconn may be coaxed by generous tax incentives. The Milwaukee
: Journal Sentinel reports Wisconsin's deal for the new Foxconn plant may
: include incentives totaling as much as $3 billion.
: Related: Trump says Apple to build "3 big plants, beautiful plants" in US
: Foxconn had considered building the plant in Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania,
: among other states.
: 川普曾說 就蘋果一家 就能帶來三間大的工廠
: Foxconn currently has facilities in Virginia and Indiana, each of which
: employ fewer than 1,000 workers, according to its website.
: 鴻海在維州和印州已各有一間千人的工廠
: The announcement may give Trump a victory as he looks to bring back jobs.
: Trump also recently said Apple (AAPL, Tech30) plans to build "three big plants
: , beautiful plants" in the U.S.
: But Foxconn -- and Apple -- may struggle to transport their manufacturing
: success abroad to the U.S.
: Foxconn grew into a powerhouse for electronics manufacturing for Apple,
: Microsoft (MSFT, Tech30), HP (HPQ) and others thanks to its ability to staff
: its factories with cheap labor in China.
: At its peak, Foxconn employs more than one million people. Employees live on
: factory campuses and have been known to work far more hours for far less pay
: than would be acceptable under U.S. labor laws.
: 鴻海帝國有百萬人
: At times, Foxconn's workplace demands have resulted in worker riots and
: suicides. In fact, Foxconn installed nets outside buildings to catch workers
: trying to jump to their deaths.
: 自殺頻傳所以建物外設自殺防護網
: It's also unclear if Wisconsin, or any state for the matter, can supply Foxconn
: with the thousands of skilled laborers it would need to manufacture electronics
: at scale.
: Comment:
: 下一間應該是 TSMC 大股東美國 人力水電又划算 主要客戶都在美國
: 台灣留美理工研究生一年有七千人 只招純台灣人都夠用
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