Re: [心得]一年的製程工程師甘苦談 - 工程師
By Xanthe
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晶圓廠製程工程師來加碼心得
工作細節前一篇非常詳細也到位我就不多說了
以下都是夢境,人資別查我水表我離職了
一切都是事實
不自殺也不刪文
*關於製程整合弟兄說的沒事就被幹翻
你真的還沒遇過羞辱性質的/動手動腳的
我曾經的老闆會在交接對新人大罵:
你腦袋有洞?你碩士真的有畢業?你X大化學?明天把論文帶來給我看!
我朋友的老闆不爽是到座位上把員工筆電拿起來摔到地上大剿三字經
我過去的部經會在開會時當大家面拿簡報筆尻經理的頭說你是豬嗎?我看豬都比你好!
*關於工時:
這家公司真的很會做新聞做形象行銷
曾經有員工平均週工時50hr的新聞
平行世界?
我從來沒看過低於60,大約都在70,慘一點80-90
請問這麼幸福的企業怎麼這波人手一直補不滿呢??????
*關於加班:
當初勞基法放寬每月加班時數從46變54hr & 3個月不可超過138
小leader苦笑著跟我說:我們一個月就能加班138小...
整合弟兄不要怪製程沒時間理你
只能說你太菜,也比較不會做人
我過去顧的layer
一天光single wafer low yield的mail平均每天10幾20封,每封都要回個one page,根本
沒心力好好一一查
(還沒加上一堆Defect HL,機台各種alarm,CIP出問題,offline 3天2out ......)
而遇到那種菜鳥拿著一張IEDA2跑的correlation就來HL你的,我也會依法孝敬回去,拿他
的wafer去丟IEDA2跑更多correlation多往回跑幾個站點,找到更有可能的那家回信給菜
整合外加CC他老闆
不要怪製程各家都推來推去不肯承認
是你的證據無法說服人停機
真正厲害的整合寄report出來HL製程,製程看了證據是會冒冷汗趕快自己先停機的。
HL文化太甚,造就各部門敵對
原本應該是合作關係的上下游(整合/製程)變成互相藏東腋西的
甚至RD廠在做CIP或做了change時,經常不跟FAB廠share,因為CP每週兩廠相比,誰輸了
誰就準備死
這家公司沒有不好,但你如果沒有一定程度的奴性真的會待不了,因為你拿著外面1.2-1.
5倍的薪水在做別的公司3個人在做的事
而待的時間長了想換工作,裡面想法封閉與世隔絕的同事老闆會告訴你外面薪水比這裡少
多了也一樣辛苦,讓你不敢離職。
想知道產線到底有多封閉
我分享個離職後的故事:
離職後因為原部門離職率太高補不到人,老闆向以前要好的同事要了我私人手機,問我要
不要回去?
我說 我現在月薪76K...年薪應該比以前還多一點...
老闆回我:你說的是科技業?外面有薪水這麼高的工作哦?
(以後有機會再分享當初找工作為何不找設備商,看到裡面對待vendor的各種惡劣行徑,
想要在台灣工作又太容易對到這家公司,此生誓死不去這樣被幹歪)
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工作細節前一篇非常詳細也到位我就不多說了
以下都是夢境,人資別查我水表我離職了
一切都是事實
不自殺也不刪文
*關於製程整合弟兄說的沒事就被幹翻
你真的還沒遇過羞辱性質的/動手動腳的
我曾經的老闆會在交接對新人大罵:
你腦袋有洞?你碩士真的有畢業?你X大化學?明天把論文帶來給我看!
我朋友的老闆不爽是到座位上把員工筆電拿起來摔到地上大剿三字經
我過去的部經會在開會時當大家面拿簡報筆尻經理的頭說你是豬嗎?我看豬都比你好!
*關於工時:
這家公司真的很會做新聞做形象行銷
曾經有員工平均週工時50hr的新聞
平行世界?
我從來沒看過低於60,大約都在70,慘一點80-90
請問這麼幸福的企業怎麼這波人手一直補不滿呢??????
*關於加班:
當初勞基法放寬每月加班時數從46變54hr & 3個月不可超過138
小leader苦笑著跟我說:我們一個月就能加班138小...
整合弟兄不要怪製程沒時間理你
只能說你太菜,也比較不會做人
我過去顧的layer
一天光single wafer low yield的mail平均每天10幾20封,每封都要回個one page,根本
沒心力好好一一查
(還沒加上一堆Defect HL,機台各種alarm,CIP出問題,offline 3天2out ......)
而遇到那種菜鳥拿著一張IEDA2跑的correlation就來HL你的,我也會依法孝敬回去,拿他
的wafer去丟IEDA2跑更多correlation多往回跑幾個站點,找到更有可能的那家回信給菜
整合外加CC他老闆
不要怪製程各家都推來推去不肯承認
是你的證據無法說服人停機
真正厲害的整合寄report出來HL製程,製程看了證據是會冒冷汗趕快自己先停機的。
HL文化太甚,造就各部門敵對
原本應該是合作關係的上下游(整合/製程)變成互相藏東腋西的
甚至RD廠在做CIP或做了change時,經常不跟FAB廠share,因為CP每週兩廠相比,誰輸了
誰就準備死
這家公司沒有不好,但你如果沒有一定程度的奴性真的會待不了,因為你拿著外面1.2-1.
5倍的薪水在做別的公司3個人在做的事
而待的時間長了想換工作,裡面想法封閉與世隔絕的同事老闆會告訴你外面薪水比這裡少
多了也一樣辛苦,讓你不敢離職。
想知道產線到底有多封閉
我分享個離職後的故事:
離職後因為原部門離職率太高補不到人,老闆向以前要好的同事要了我私人手機,問我要
不要回去?
我說 我現在月薪76K...年薪應該比以前還多一點...
老闆回我:你說的是科技業?外面有薪水這麼高的工作哦?
(以後有機會再分享當初找工作為何不找設備商,看到裡面對待vendor的各種惡劣行徑,
想要在台灣工作又太容易對到這家公司,此生誓死不去這樣被幹歪)
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