我在台積的三年 - 工程師
By Robert
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分享一下我在南科GG三年的生活,給各位想進GG的板友參考
不過在進入本文之前請各位一定要記住一件事
同部門不同課的風氣/工時都會天差地遠,大概只有薪水是全公司差不太多的
先從大家最關心的薪水開始
根據HR的講法,影響分紅的要素只有:底薪、考績、職等
版上常常講考績S+S-,其實系統上只看得到O、S、I etc.
加減那些都是看不到的,除非直屬主管跟你講
所以我只知道自己三年來都是S,不知道是加是減,31製程
報稅資料如下,不含加班費因為加班費不用繳稅,1/1~12/31的收入
1. 3X (下半年報到,含簽約金)
2. 9X (7月拿到一點點)
3. 15X
4. 就是今年
另外加班費大概10~20萬/年
報加班這件事很看直屬&部門主管,不同課的管理是不一樣的
基本上,可以報加班,不能報補休
跟大部分公司相反,補休反而常常簽不過去XD 當然也有些部門是會簽的
有些要求20:30以後才能送加班
有些要求(平日)一天不能報高過3小時
有些不能連續兩個月超過40(但是你實際加班絕對每個月爆掉46)
再來工時
落差很大,光是值班就有千百種值法,還有個人效率/責任感問題
我課上是不管你哪時休息的,大家通常午餐邊吃邊工作,14或15點午睡30分鐘
17:30之後且交接完有些人會再睡
但也有的課是強制要求午睡只能在12:30~13:30間,看直屬主管的個性
上班沒什麼好偷懶的,內網鎖光光,頂多滑奇摩新聞XD
平日沒有值班的話,8:30上班,通常19:30~20:00走(這是全課前三分之一)
但我不在公司吃晚餐,同事買晚餐聊天的時候我都工作工作,交接完也不睡覺
其實大多數人19:30之後效率就大幅滑落,開始了八卦閒聊時間...
但我都跑回家,少聽了很多八卦Q_Q
製程固定要值特早/小夜,假如是新廠(例如N12下線)就會隨機出現大夜班
進GG前我根本不知道有特早這種鬼東西,可惡!!
依據不同的單位,特早時間從6:00~7:00都有(可能有更早或更晚我不知道)
表定15:30下班,平日通常19:00後走
假日如果有小夜接班,約17:00前可以閃人;沒有小夜,就是20:00之後(看當天造化...)
一個月上2~3天假日特早,每周1~2天平日特早
連假?一年有放到1~2個完整的(含過年)就好棒棒,大部分都要排班啦
小夜上班時間15:30~16:00,表定下班12:30~02:30,也是看單位
有的單位完全沒有小夜、有的周末沒有小夜、有的每天都有小夜
也有聽說某課周末沒小夜且特早(?)8:30來13:30走...或是周末沒特早也沒小夜
總之越老的廠工程師越少值班
製程的工作
很雜。
我不知道怎麼有組織的敘述它XD
大家很熟悉的維持SPC chart、應付工一跟defect team、驗機開產能應付製造部
都只是基本中的基本,做好沒有獎勵(考績不會加分),沒做好會被幹到飛天
不過我個人覺得,最主要的壓力來源是各種KPI
台積什麼東西都要搞個KPI,例如你值班手機收到的簡訊數量,也是一個KPI
每個KPI都要有人顧,一人分三個都分不完
有KPI就有gaol,雖然goal訂高是世界KPI的常態
但是有些訂高是讓你充滿幹勁想辦法去達成它,台積的是聽到就幹X娘直接殺了我吧
一個簡略的例子
01年說每台機台的單位時間產量要比00年增加一成,拚死拚活做到增加0.7成
02年說01年的一成沒達標,02年要增加00年的二成五
每個禮拜開會看你到底增加了多少
所以製程的project通常都是從KPI來的,一個KPI會長出一堆project
如果你顧的KPI主管很重視,那這一坨project會分給課上的人一起做
如果你顧的KPI主管不在意,這一坨project就自己硬幹吧
(然後做不完獨自去會議被洗臉)
(沒達goal被review主管還是會森氣氣)
(今天叫你不要浪費時間,隔天問你怎麼KPI都沒在顧XD)
讓人很心累的是,KPI會打架
cost reduction不給錢換機台零件但是機台alarm要減量
PM間格要拉長但是電性要比以前更穩
SPC spec要tighten可是Cpk要變高
人力要精簡但是工時要縮短
諸如此類,台積因為輪班星人的精神分裂而偉大
不過這是我的第一家公司,或許普天之下的公司都是這樣吧....
關於離職
超難。
鄉野傳說離職人數是主管的KPI
離職的程序單要主管同意你離職才印得出來
每個禮拜被各路主管約談,預告過了21天還是不指派人選交接不簽離職申請
你真的要離職? 真的。
你再考慮一下。
迴圈大概是這樣
--
原作者不同意任何形式轉錄/新聞報導。(某報章雜誌請勿任意轉載,謝謝)
以下文章為代PO,太詳細怕被公司查水表XD
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分享一下我在南科GG三年的生活,給各位想進GG的板友參考
不過在進入本文之前請各位一定要記住一件事
同部門不同課的風氣/工時都會天差地遠,大概只有薪水是全公司差不太多的
先從大家最關心的薪水開始
根據HR的講法,影響分紅的要素只有:底薪、考績、職等
版上常常講考績S+S-,其實系統上只看得到O、S、I etc.
加減那些都是看不到的,除非直屬主管跟你講
所以我只知道自己三年來都是S,不知道是加是減,31製程
報稅資料如下,不含加班費因為加班費不用繳稅,1/1~12/31的收入
1. 3X (下半年報到,含簽約金)
2. 9X (7月拿到一點點)
3. 15X
4. 就是今年
另外加班費大概10~20萬/年
報加班這件事很看直屬&部門主管,不同課的管理是不一樣的
基本上,可以報加班,不能報補休
跟大部分公司相反,補休反而常常簽不過去XD 當然也有些部門是會簽的
有些要求20:30以後才能送加班
有些要求(平日)一天不能報高過3小時
有些不能連續兩個月超過40(但是你實際加班絕對每個月爆掉46)
再來工時
落差很大,光是值班就有千百種值法,還有個人效率/責任感問題
我課上是不管你哪時休息的,大家通常午餐邊吃邊工作,14或15點午睡30分鐘
17:30之後且交接完有些人會再睡
但也有的課是強制要求午睡只能在12:30~13:30間,看直屬主管的個性
上班沒什麼好偷懶的,內網鎖光光,頂多滑奇摩新聞XD
平日沒有值班的話,8:30上班,通常19:30~20:00走(這是全課前三分之一)
但我不在公司吃晚餐,同事買晚餐聊天的時候我都工作工作,交接完也不睡覺
其實大多數人19:30之後效率就大幅滑落,開始了八卦閒聊時間...
但我都跑回家,少聽了很多八卦Q_Q
製程固定要值特早/小夜,假如是新廠(例如N12下線)就會隨機出現大夜班
進GG前我根本不知道有特早這種鬼東西,可惡!!
依據不同的單位,特早時間從6:00~7:00都有(可能有更早或更晚我不知道)
表定15:30下班,平日通常19:00後走
假日如果有小夜接班,約17:00前可以閃人;沒有小夜,就是20:00之後(看當天造化...)
一個月上2~3天假日特早,每周1~2天平日特早
連假?一年有放到1~2個完整的(含過年)就好棒棒,大部分都要排班啦
小夜上班時間15:30~16:00,表定下班12:30~02:30,也是看單位
有的單位完全沒有小夜、有的周末沒有小夜、有的每天都有小夜
也有聽說某課周末沒小夜且特早(?)8:30來13:30走...或是周末沒特早也沒小夜
總之越老的廠工程師越少值班
製程的工作
很雜。
我不知道怎麼有組織的敘述它XD
大家很熟悉的維持SPC chart、應付工一跟defect team、驗機開產能應付製造部
都只是基本中的基本,做好沒有獎勵(考績不會加分),沒做好會被幹到飛天
不過我個人覺得,最主要的壓力來源是各種KPI
台積什麼東西都要搞個KPI,例如你值班手機收到的簡訊數量,也是一個KPI
每個KPI都要有人顧,一人分三個都分不完
有KPI就有gaol,雖然goal訂高是世界KPI的常態
但是有些訂高是讓你充滿幹勁想辦法去達成它,台積的是聽到就幹X娘直接殺了我吧
一個簡略的例子
01年說每台機台的單位時間產量要比00年增加一成,拚死拚活做到增加0.7成
02年說01年的一成沒達標,02年要增加00年的二成五
每個禮拜開會看你到底增加了多少
所以製程的project通常都是從KPI來的,一個KPI會長出一堆project
如果你顧的KPI主管很重視,那這一坨project會分給課上的人一起做
如果你顧的KPI主管不在意,這一坨project就自己硬幹吧
(然後做不完獨自去會議被洗臉)
(沒達goal被review主管還是會森氣氣)
(今天叫你不要浪費時間,隔天問你怎麼KPI都沒在顧XD)
讓人很心累的是,KPI會打架
cost reduction不給錢換機台零件但是機台alarm要減量
PM間格要拉長但是電性要比以前更穩
SPC spec要tighten可是Cpk要變高
人力要精簡但是工時要縮短
諸如此類,台積因為輪班星人的精神分裂而偉大
不過這是我的第一家公司,或許普天之下的公司都是這樣吧....
關於離職
超難。
鄉野傳說離職人數是主管的KPI
離職的程序單要主管同意你離職才印得出來
每個禮拜被各路主管約談,預告過了21天還是不指派人選交接不簽離職申請
你真的要離職? 真的。
你再考慮一下。
迴圈大概是這樣
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