登出/辭職/離職後的天空 - 公職

By Hamiltion
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同一片天空,只是看的角度不同而已
https://imgur.com/aaFGWsX
個人在年改之前就登出了,任公職超過十年,幸運地有領到政府應該付的65%
離開公職的原因既不是錢給不到位,也不是心受委屈
(有專業加給,薪水在台灣算不錯;工作委屈當然也有,但也沒那麼委屈)
會選擇登出只是覺得這份工作無法繼續提升個人價值而已
簡單來說,就是這份公職不能再讓我成長
登出多年後,我從來沒後悔擔任過這份公職
覺得自己很幸運,能有機會大約每兩年就輪調職務,歷練不同工作挑戰
加班雖然辛苦,加班費又低,但做自己覺得有意義的工作,我覺得很值得
"Working hard for something we do not care about is called stress,
working hard for something we love is called passion." - Simon Sinek
本篇文章大致涵蓋五點,最後以台灣與挪威公務體系的比較作為結尾
前二點比較適合對登出公職有疑慮的人,後三點比較適合對公職仍有熱情的人
1.穩定?
這份穩定是生活的保障?還是創新的束縛?
留職停薪念完碩士之後,讓我開始覺得這份穩定其實是種危機
離開職位兩年後,回來發現做的事都一樣,做的方式也一樣
代表著這份工作雖然能給我生活的保障,卻不能再讓我成長
"You'll never get anywhere by staying in your comfort zone." - R.S. Grey
2.沉沒成本?
好不容易才擠進公職窄門,登出值得嗎?
節錄維基百科的例子
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B2%89%E6%B2%A1%E6%88%90%E6%9C%AC
"如果某人預訂了一張電影票,已經付了票款且假設不能退票。
此時付的價錢已經不能收回,就算不看電影錢也收不回來,電影票的價錢算作沉沒成本。
大多數經濟學家們認為,如果人是理性的,那就不該在做決策時考慮沉沒成本。
比如在前面提到的看電影的例子中,會有兩種可能結果:
1.付錢後發覺電影不好看,但忍受著看完;
2.付錢後發覺電影不好看,退場去做別的事情。
經濟學家們往往建議選擇後者,
這樣只是花了點冤枉錢,還可以通過騰出時間來做其他更有意義的事來降低機會成本,
而選擇前者還要繼續受冤枉罪。"
個人覺得準備國家考試不太算是沉沒成本,因為至少還有學到一些學識
雖然學識現在已經忘了差不多了,但學習方法是不會忘的
即使當初準備國家考試非常辛苦,也不該是現在忍受著這份公職的理由
"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J.R.R. Tolkien
3.身心健康及家庭 > 工作
在不危害身心健康及家庭的情況下,為工作熱情而加班是可以接受的
當工作開始危害身體健康、心理健康或家庭和樂時,請開始考慮或建立其他選項吧!
"Work is a rubber ball. If you drop it, it will bounce back.
The other four balls-- family, health, friends, integrity-- are made of glass.
If you drop one of these, it will be irrevocably scuffed, nicked,
perhaps even shattered." - Gary Keller
4.白紙黑字 > 口頭
貪污治罪條例罰則跟公職薪資不成比例,保護好自己最重要
灰色地帶的工作事宜,白紙黑字寫下並簽報長官
長官不蓋章也沒關係,註明已簽報長官及日期,自己備份並附卷存查
"Right is right even if no one is doing it;
wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it." - Augustine of Hippo
5.如何工作 > 工作
如何工作比工作更重要
想想工作內容有可以自動化的地方嗎?甚至人工智慧?
"Progress isn't made by early risers.
It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something."
- Robert A. Heinlein
個人因為懶,應用了一些自動化在工作上,節省了很多時間
節省下來的時間又學了更多自動化的方法,無限循環
"Civil servants have an extraordinary genius
for wrapping up a simple idea to make it sound extremely complicated."
- Jonathan Lynn
長官都會希望自己負責的業務看起來越複雜越難越好
長官也是人,也希望能從工作中獲取成就感
曾遇過一位長官,看不懂也不瞭解業務內容,但又想改文
個人就會刻意留些標點符號的錯誤讓他改
長官改得很有成就感,就不會想過問公文實質內容,公文跑得也會很順利,雙贏
*台灣與挪威公務體系的比較
A.沒有國家考試
挪威的公職跟一般業界職位一樣,大家都可以申請
「有關係,就沒關係」?
靠關係的確可能拿到公職,但有更好的關係可以拿到更好的業界職務
(挪威公職薪水還是跟業界薪水差了一截,所以靠關係當公職應該算不上圖利)
B.年金改革
個人認同oldgung大大的「自己的退休金自己救」
年金改革在挪威也是未來不可能變的改變
https://www.spk.no/Pensjon/ny-offentlig-tjenestepensjon-pa-1-2-3/
同樣從27歲開始任公職,平均年薪192萬台幣來算,67歲退休時
1963出生的可領到百分之68的薪水,約台幣130萬
1973出生的可領到百分之62的薪水,約台幣119萬
1983出生的可領到百分之58的薪水,約台幣112萬
1993出生的可領到百分之55的薪水,約台幣106萬
越領越少是一定的,不管台灣或挪威都一樣
個人覺得未來能領得到就是福氣
C.工作環境保護法
挪威的公職就是一般勞工,所以受到同等法律保障
最近的挪威新聞就在報導:
奧斯陸地方政府持續違反工作環境保護法,近年來違法加班超過10萬次
在台灣公職算是僕人,不算員工,一般民眾也不尊重公職人員,也不認為有保障的必要
(個人對本版名稱public servant很反感,不過改成government employee也無濟於事)
結語:選擇?
當工作開始危害身體健康、心理健康或家庭和樂時,請開始考慮或建立其他選項吧!
但有什麼選項呢?(這是pk0943大大對想登出的人常常問的問題)
個人建議是:除了考慮當下現有的選項之外,可以考慮培養專長來建立其他選項
"The purpose of a good education is to show you that
there are three sides to a two-sided story." - Stanley Fish
例如:如果想要建立「出國工作/念書」這選項,語言能力當然是必備的
擁有的能力越多,能考慮的選項也就越多
最後希望大家工作的穩定是建立在擁有的能力上,而不是在職位本身上
選擇留在公職是因為自己的選擇,而不是只有這個選擇
"If you try and lose then it isn't your fault.
But if you don't try and we lose, then it's all your fault." - Orson Scott Card
--
https://imgur.com/aaFGWsX
個人在年改之前就登出了,任公職超過十年,幸運地有領到政府應該付的65%
離開公職的原因既不是錢給不到位,也不是心受委屈
(有專業加給,薪水在台灣算不錯;工作委屈當然也有,但也沒那麼委屈)
會選擇登出只是覺得這份工作無法繼續提升個人價值而已
簡單來說,就是這份公職不能再讓我成長
登出多年後,我從來沒後悔擔任過這份公職
覺得自己很幸運,能有機會大約每兩年就輪調職務,歷練不同工作挑戰
加班雖然辛苦,加班費又低,但做自己覺得有意義的工作,我覺得很值得
"Working hard for something we do not care about is called stress,
working hard for something we love is called passion." - Simon Sinek
本篇文章大致涵蓋五點,最後以台灣與挪威公務體系的比較作為結尾
前二點比較適合對登出公職有疑慮的人,後三點比較適合對公職仍有熱情的人
1.穩定?
這份穩定是生活的保障?還是創新的束縛?
留職停薪念完碩士之後,讓我開始覺得這份穩定其實是種危機
離開職位兩年後,回來發現做的事都一樣,做的方式也一樣
代表著這份工作雖然能給我生活的保障,卻不能再讓我成長
"You'll never get anywhere by staying in your comfort zone." - R.S. Grey
2.沉沒成本?
好不容易才擠進公職窄門,登出值得嗎?
節錄維基百科的例子
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B2%89%E6%B2%A1%E6%88%90%E6%9C%AC
"如果某人預訂了一張電影票,已經付了票款且假設不能退票。
此時付的價錢已經不能收回,就算不看電影錢也收不回來,電影票的價錢算作沉沒成本。
大多數經濟學家們認為,如果人是理性的,那就不該在做決策時考慮沉沒成本。
比如在前面提到的看電影的例子中,會有兩種可能結果:
1.付錢後發覺電影不好看,但忍受著看完;
2.付錢後發覺電影不好看,退場去做別的事情。
經濟學家們往往建議選擇後者,
這樣只是花了點冤枉錢,還可以通過騰出時間來做其他更有意義的事來降低機會成本,
而選擇前者還要繼續受冤枉罪。"
個人覺得準備國家考試不太算是沉沒成本,因為至少還有學到一些學識
雖然學識現在已經忘了差不多了,但學習方法是不會忘的
即使當初準備國家考試非常辛苦,也不該是現在忍受著這份公職的理由
"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J.R.R. Tolkien
3.身心健康及家庭 > 工作
在不危害身心健康及家庭的情況下,為工作熱情而加班是可以接受的
當工作開始危害身體健康、心理健康或家庭和樂時,請開始考慮或建立其他選項吧!
"Work is a rubber ball. If you drop it, it will bounce back.
The other four balls-- family, health, friends, integrity-- are made of glass.
If you drop one of these, it will be irrevocably scuffed, nicked,
perhaps even shattered." - Gary Keller
4.白紙黑字 > 口頭
貪污治罪條例罰則跟公職薪資不成比例,保護好自己最重要
灰色地帶的工作事宜,白紙黑字寫下並簽報長官
長官不蓋章也沒關係,註明已簽報長官及日期,自己備份並附卷存查
"Right is right even if no one is doing it;
wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it." - Augustine of Hippo
5.如何工作 > 工作
如何工作比工作更重要
想想工作內容有可以自動化的地方嗎?甚至人工智慧?
"Progress isn't made by early risers.
It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something."
- Robert A. Heinlein
個人因為懶,應用了一些自動化在工作上,節省了很多時間
節省下來的時間又學了更多自動化的方法,無限循環
"Civil servants have an extraordinary genius
for wrapping up a simple idea to make it sound extremely complicated."
- Jonathan Lynn
長官都會希望自己負責的業務看起來越複雜越難越好
長官也是人,也希望能從工作中獲取成就感
曾遇過一位長官,看不懂也不瞭解業務內容,但又想改文
個人就會刻意留些標點符號的錯誤讓他改
長官改得很有成就感,就不會想過問公文實質內容,公文跑得也會很順利,雙贏
*台灣與挪威公務體系的比較
A.沒有國家考試
挪威的公職跟一般業界職位一樣,大家都可以申請
「有關係,就沒關係」?
靠關係的確可能拿到公職,但有更好的關係可以拿到更好的業界職務
(挪威公職薪水還是跟業界薪水差了一截,所以靠關係當公職應該算不上圖利)
B.年金改革
個人認同oldgung大大的「自己的退休金自己救」
年金改革在挪威也是未來不可能變的改變
https://www.spk.no/Pensjon/ny-offentlig-tjenestepensjon-pa-1-2-3/
同樣從27歲開始任公職,平均年薪192萬台幣來算,67歲退休時
1963出生的可領到百分之68的薪水,約台幣130萬
1973出生的可領到百分之62的薪水,約台幣119萬
1983出生的可領到百分之58的薪水,約台幣112萬
1993出生的可領到百分之55的薪水,約台幣106萬
越領越少是一定的,不管台灣或挪威都一樣
個人覺得未來能領得到就是福氣
C.工作環境保護法
挪威的公職就是一般勞工,所以受到同等法律保障
最近的挪威新聞就在報導:
奧斯陸地方政府持續違反工作環境保護法,近年來違法加班超過10萬次
在台灣公職算是僕人,不算員工,一般民眾也不尊重公職人員,也不認為有保障的必要
(個人對本版名稱public servant很反感,不過改成government employee也無濟於事)
結語:選擇?
當工作開始危害身體健康、心理健康或家庭和樂時,請開始考慮或建立其他選項吧!
但有什麼選項呢?(這是pk0943大大對想登出的人常常問的問題)
個人建議是:除了考慮當下現有的選項之外,可以考慮培養專長來建立其他選項
"The purpose of a good education is to show you that
there are three sides to a two-sided story." - Stanley Fish
例如:如果想要建立「出國工作/念書」這選項,語言能力當然是必備的
擁有的能力越多,能考慮的選項也就越多
最後希望大家工作的穩定是建立在擁有的能力上,而不是在職位本身上
選擇留在公職是因為自己的選擇,而不是只有這個選擇
"If you try and lose then it isn't your fault.
But if you don't try and we lose, then it's all your fault." - Orson Scott Card
--
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