神山調薪的問題 - 離職

By Joseph
at 2022-04-23T04:44
at 2022-04-23T04:44
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歸覽趴火,特地註冊一個新帳號來噴
看板上可能有些其他公司的,或是沒搞清楚狀況的在那講說老人腿軟走不掉
或是說啥除非不在意分紅不然也不能擺爛的
我來告訴這些搞不清楚狀況的人,這次調薪這樣調最大的問題在哪
大家都聽過傳聞,前一兩年新廠新人離職率超級高
台積現在又有約 40% 左右的員工是三年內新人
可以理解上面想加薪留下新人的想法
但這個公式實際上不只惹到老人,也惹到新人了
今天在給 CC 的內部 PTT 上,就有人留說年資 2.x 年的
因為調薪公式沒有像 1 年左右的有特殊照顧
結果調完他底薪還比 1 年左右的低了 4%
三年內新人彼此之間也分化了,逆侃侃逆侃侃,這次調薪公式是有多智障
再來,說是要照顧新人,逼退老人嗎?
如果說是萬年 32 或是萬年 33 ,而且又擺爛之類的老人
那被逼退對公司或其他留下來的員工是好事
但現在被惹怒的究竟是哪些人呢?
現在最憤怒的,其實是新廠那些最有戰力的中堅分子
台積內部,要從 31 升到 32,通常是要去年底拿到 O 的那年才有機會升
升上去之後,通常考績不會像 31 時期那麼好
為什麼,很簡單,五年內的新廠單位,能快速升上去的
通常就是表現最好的那群 31,升上去之後 32 之間網內互打
要拿好考績當然就沒有像在 31 群裡來得簡單
而且,台積甚至還有些單位,有內規,剛升 32 那年,考績必拿 S- 起降
那麼假設你是去年升上 32 的中堅分子
現在肯定臉整個黑掉了
調薪完後,甚至還不如前年表現沒你好的,留在 31 拿 S+ 的同梯
這些人可不是老屁股喔,都是年資不到 10 年的重要戰力
年紀也才 28~32 左右而已,大部分都還沒生小孩,要跳槽可是很容易的
而且不要忘記
這群人腦裡正好有一堆 new tech 發展過程中的 issue 的 lesson learnt
不論是跳其他晶圓廠,還是跳 vendor ,他們都很歡迎的...
大家都知道,台積是個有點吃大鍋飯風氣的公司
同年資同考績,在第一線戰鬥單位跟爽單位,領的錢基本上差不多的
去年移薪 20% 之後,本來不同考績階級之間的薪水差距就變小了
現在調完薪,有即戰力的薪水還不如新人
菜 32 還不如老 31
前幾年拚 O 的,不如今年一次 S+
你猜猜以後大家還想不想拼命拿好考績?
現在這樣搞,讓有戰力的人都不爽了,以後看台積要怎麼拚
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看板上可能有些其他公司的,或是沒搞清楚狀況的在那講說老人腿軟走不掉
或是說啥除非不在意分紅不然也不能擺爛的
我來告訴這些搞不清楚狀況的人,這次調薪這樣調最大的問題在哪
大家都聽過傳聞,前一兩年新廠新人離職率超級高
台積現在又有約 40% 左右的員工是三年內新人
可以理解上面想加薪留下新人的想法
但這個公式實際上不只惹到老人,也惹到新人了
今天在給 CC 的內部 PTT 上,就有人留說年資 2.x 年的
因為調薪公式沒有像 1 年左右的有特殊照顧
結果調完他底薪還比 1 年左右的低了 4%
三年內新人彼此之間也分化了,逆侃侃逆侃侃,這次調薪公式是有多智障
再來,說是要照顧新人,逼退老人嗎?
如果說是萬年 32 或是萬年 33 ,而且又擺爛之類的老人
那被逼退對公司或其他留下來的員工是好事
但現在被惹怒的究竟是哪些人呢?
現在最憤怒的,其實是新廠那些最有戰力的中堅分子
台積內部,要從 31 升到 32,通常是要去年底拿到 O 的那年才有機會升
升上去之後,通常考績不會像 31 時期那麼好
為什麼,很簡單,五年內的新廠單位,能快速升上去的
通常就是表現最好的那群 31,升上去之後 32 之間網內互打
要拿好考績當然就沒有像在 31 群裡來得簡單
而且,台積甚至還有些單位,有內規,剛升 32 那年,考績必拿 S- 起降
那麼假設你是去年升上 32 的中堅分子
現在肯定臉整個黑掉了
調薪完後,甚至還不如前年表現沒你好的,留在 31 拿 S+ 的同梯
這些人可不是老屁股喔,都是年資不到 10 年的重要戰力
年紀也才 28~32 左右而已,大部分都還沒生小孩,要跳槽可是很容易的
而且不要忘記
這群人腦裡正好有一堆 new tech 發展過程中的 issue 的 lesson learnt
不論是跳其他晶圓廠,還是跳 vendor ,他們都很歡迎的...
大家都知道,台積是個有點吃大鍋飯風氣的公司
同年資同考績,在第一線戰鬥單位跟爽單位,領的錢基本上差不多的
去年移薪 20% 之後,本來不同考績階級之間的薪水差距就變小了
現在調完薪,有即戰力的薪水還不如新人
菜 32 還不如老 31
前幾年拚 O 的,不如今年一次 S+
你猜猜以後大家還想不想拼命拿好考績?
現在這樣搞,讓有戰力的人都不爽了,以後看台積要怎麼拚
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