神山之旅心得 - 加班
By Odelette
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各位年薪五百大大好
趁著這波很多人討論,剛好分享給新鮮人一些經驗談
雖然多數是抱怨QQ
但都是真實的經驗希望可以給畢業生們一些方向參考
小弟碩畢後加入GG有了一些體悟
雖然早有耳聞血汗工廠的稱號,但想想自己畢竟不是工廠端的應該是還可以,研發聽起來很有未來
常有人說比上不足比下有餘,但就想問問為什麼學習都要大家跟好的比,到了職缺卻要大家跟爛的比
以下
(1)文化
長期工廠端的惡習其實也是會擴散到其他部門的。GG有滿多和國軍類似的人,覺得自己待久了就是老大。
舉個例子好了,剛進公司時什麼都還不懂,依照前輩提供的元件圖做了一份報告。前輩直接打電話來噴爆,問為什麼連元件的圖都可以是錯的。
向前輩表明是依照他的指示,得到的回應是「難道我給你錯的圖你報告就可以錯嗎?」
讓我職場初體驗就知道了通靈的重要性。
更遑論有功勞會搶、有過失直接推給底下的人,這樣的新人殺手姍姍卡在部門裡真滴慘。
(2)發展性
GG是晶圓代工霸主,但也因此造成轉職困難。
豬屎污比較容易互跳,GG往其他晶圓廠跳,薪水有可能會跳樓。
所學出了晶圓廠高機率沒辦法延續,但又沒有相對應薪資的晶圓廠。
年資尚淺的人可以跳到一個新的地方重學,但蹲久了的GGer要跳會發現腳很麻。自己學了一身無用武之地的技能,出去了也容易被砍薪,不如直接變成惡劣前輩傳承工廠文化更划算。
跨部門開會可以深切體會到沒人想解決問題,只是想互相推責任確保火不會燒到自己。
紅臉蟹老闆帶著蝦兵蟹將搞笑。
(3)效率
在GG要run一些EDA tool,很常遇到沒有license 的問題。按完等很久告訴你沒licnese,就再重新按一次慢慢等。
各式各樣的系統很多都是上古時期建的,介面非常復古,各種高對比配色傷眼睛就算了,花式bug+當機才真的爽。永遠可以其他新的error讓人慢慢找原因。
(4)薪資
大家都知道貴G是低底薪高分紅公司,領滿「可能」和其他豬屎污不會差太多。
但是低底薪也造成加班費很低,那麼便宜還不加到爆。
第一年因為分紅領不滿所以薪水會非常低,之後就會還好了 嗎?
答案是否定的,因為很多時候好的缺是沒有辦法等的,萬一在七八月之前剛好有好缺,也只能忍痛放棄大包。
也就是說在進公司跟離開公司都要被扒一層皮,一共兩層,非常涼快,舒服。
甚至是餐補一餐25元,跟同業比真的很會從員工身上省錢。
(5)規定
先跳過病毒會自動跟著紅藍軍分流的不會擴散的聰明想法。
在G最有名的就是不能帶手機,發給你一個超當的踢鳳,然後處長用哀鳳,讓大家知道階級制度的重要性。
連國軍都做的出來的鎖手機拍照的系統,身為全球市值前十的公司卻做不到。
以上大概是幾個印象比較深的體悟。
一定會有人嗆不爽不要做
是的船長
我就不爽不做了
同樣是第一年,在不同的領域拿到了GG新人年兩倍的年薪
只是每每想到自己當初蹉跎的一年,就想給一些還在迷茫的新鮮人們一點方向參考。
在G的那年我唯一獲得的就是動力,每當現在遇到困境時就想想當年在G的苦,還有什麼不能忍呢?
當然也有朋友在G找到了超級爽缺,準時上下班。
只能說
對自己人品有信心的還是可以去看看
搞不好你就是天選之人呢!
離開之後我用力的買進G的股票,畢竟蓄奴這麼多,這間公司展望肯定好
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趁著這波很多人討論,剛好分享給新鮮人一些經驗談
雖然多數是抱怨QQ
但都是真實的經驗希望可以給畢業生們一些方向參考
小弟碩畢後加入GG有了一些體悟
雖然早有耳聞血汗工廠的稱號,但想想自己畢竟不是工廠端的應該是還可以,研發聽起來很有未來
常有人說比上不足比下有餘,但就想問問為什麼學習都要大家跟好的比,到了職缺卻要大家跟爛的比
以下
(1)文化
長期工廠端的惡習其實也是會擴散到其他部門的。GG有滿多和國軍類似的人,覺得自己待久了就是老大。
舉個例子好了,剛進公司時什麼都還不懂,依照前輩提供的元件圖做了一份報告。前輩直接打電話來噴爆,問為什麼連元件的圖都可以是錯的。
向前輩表明是依照他的指示,得到的回應是「難道我給你錯的圖你報告就可以錯嗎?」
讓我職場初體驗就知道了通靈的重要性。
更遑論有功勞會搶、有過失直接推給底下的人,這樣的新人殺手姍姍卡在部門裡真滴慘。
(2)發展性
GG是晶圓代工霸主,但也因此造成轉職困難。
豬屎污比較容易互跳,GG往其他晶圓廠跳,薪水有可能會跳樓。
所學出了晶圓廠高機率沒辦法延續,但又沒有相對應薪資的晶圓廠。
年資尚淺的人可以跳到一個新的地方重學,但蹲久了的GGer要跳會發現腳很麻。自己學了一身無用武之地的技能,出去了也容易被砍薪,不如直接變成惡劣前輩傳承工廠文化更划算。
跨部門開會可以深切體會到沒人想解決問題,只是想互相推責任確保火不會燒到自己。
紅臉蟹老闆帶著蝦兵蟹將搞笑。
(3)效率
在GG要run一些EDA tool,很常遇到沒有license 的問題。按完等很久告訴你沒licnese,就再重新按一次慢慢等。
各式各樣的系統很多都是上古時期建的,介面非常復古,各種高對比配色傷眼睛就算了,花式bug+當機才真的爽。永遠可以其他新的error讓人慢慢找原因。
(4)薪資
大家都知道貴G是低底薪高分紅公司,領滿「可能」和其他豬屎污不會差太多。
但是低底薪也造成加班費很低,那麼便宜還不加到爆。
第一年因為分紅領不滿所以薪水會非常低,之後就會還好了 嗎?
答案是否定的,因為很多時候好的缺是沒有辦法等的,萬一在七八月之前剛好有好缺,也只能忍痛放棄大包。
也就是說在進公司跟離開公司都要被扒一層皮,一共兩層,非常涼快,舒服。
甚至是餐補一餐25元,跟同業比真的很會從員工身上省錢。
(5)規定
先跳過病毒會自動跟著紅藍軍分流的不會擴散的聰明想法。
在G最有名的就是不能帶手機,發給你一個超當的踢鳳,然後處長用哀鳳,讓大家知道階級制度的重要性。
連國軍都做的出來的鎖手機拍照的系統,身為全球市值前十的公司卻做不到。
以上大概是幾個印象比較深的體悟。
一定會有人嗆不爽不要做
是的船長
我就不爽不做了
同樣是第一年,在不同的領域拿到了GG新人年兩倍的年薪
只是每每想到自己當初蹉跎的一年,就想給一些還在迷茫的新鮮人們一點方向參考。
在G的那年我唯一獲得的就是動力,每當現在遇到困境時就想想當年在G的苦,還有什麼不能忍呢?
當然也有朋友在G找到了超級爽缺,準時上下班。
只能說
對自己人品有信心的還是可以去看看
搞不好你就是天選之人呢!
離開之後我用力的買進G的股票,畢竟蓄奴這麼多,這間公司展望肯定好
--
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