神山調薪的問題 - 離職

By Harry
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先不管老人新人 一直覺得PMD制度很有問題
31升32之前沒拿過O起碼也拿過很多次S+ 升了32變成最多S
運氣再差一點遇到force ranking叫你輪流吞S- 因為你剛升 機會留給別人
這一兩年升32就衰到靠北邊走
營收開始大噴發 結果32S分紅比31S+低 看到分紅先哭一次
剛升完老闆說吃個S-輪一下很正常 結果遇到大調薪時代拿S-
看到數字再哭一次
你說我不認真? 我也拿過好多S+不然怎麼升32
結構調薪沒份 認真工作拿S- 結果這次調不到5%
除了衰到靠北邊走之外我不知道還能說什麼 吃東西都沒味道想打1922了
再來一點 新人結構調薪的準則是啥
我朋友A去年三月進 有工作經驗 進的時候拿N+2K (今年調薪前的N
同部門新人B三月報到拿N
同部門有工作經驗新人C 二月報到拿N+2K
三人都是31S
A拿7% 沒結構
B拿7% 加結構 =13%
C拿7% 加結構 =13%
到底.........遇到BUG嗎?
※ 引述《Flipper01 (野貓)》之銘言:
: 有感而發一下
: 錯誤的政策會破壞公司的文化
: 當職等跟薪水結構脫鉤,等於不用升遷可以拿更多, 造成失去努力的目標。
: 考績應該決定職等的升遷,跟當季努力分紅的多寡.
: 而不是調薪去破壞薪水結構 搞得跟威力彩一樣。 今年沒升遷拿好考績賺到 去年升遷變
: 白癡。
: 薪水結構應該回到職等。職等升遷遠低於PMD威力彩,你永遠不知道你是不是一直能中威
: 力彩。現在的爽之後也會還回來 因為這不是一個公平的結構。
: 引述《GGerInInder (GGer拳頭硬硬的)》之銘言:
: : 歸覽趴火,特地註冊一個新帳號來噴
: : 看板上可能有些其他公司的,或是沒搞清楚狀況的在那講說老人腿軟走不掉
: : 或是說啥除非不在意分紅不然也不能擺爛的
: : 我來告訴這些搞不清楚狀況的人,這次調薪這樣調最大的問題在哪
: : 大家都聽過傳聞,前一兩年新廠新人離職率超級高
: : 台積現在又有約 40% 左右的員工是三年內新人
: : 可以理解上面想加薪留下新人的想法
: : 但這個公式實際上不只惹到老人,也惹到新人了
: : 今天在給 CC 的內部 PTT 上,就有人留說年資 2.x 年的
: : 因為調薪公式沒有像 1 年左右的有特殊照顧
: : 結果調完他底薪還比 1 年左右的低了 4%
: : 三年內新人彼此之間也分化了,逆侃侃逆侃侃,這次調薪公式是有多智障
: : 再來,說是要照顧新人,逼退老人嗎?
: : 如果說是萬年 32 或是萬年 33 ,而且又擺爛之類的老人
: : 那被逼退對公司或其他留下來的員工是好事
: : 但現在被惹怒的究竟是哪些人呢?
: : 現在最憤怒的,其實是新廠那些最有戰力的中堅分子
: : 台積內部,要從 31 升到 32,通常是要去年底拿到 O 的那年才有機會升
: : 升上去之後,通常考績不會像 31 時期那麼好
: : 為什麼,很簡單,五年內的新廠單位,能快速升上去的
: : 通常就是表現最好的那群 31,升上去之後 32 之間網內互打
: : 要拿好考績當然就沒有像在 31 群裡來得簡單
: : 而且,台積甚至還有些單位,有內規,剛升 32 那年,考績必拿 S- 起降
: : 那麼假設你是去年升上 32 的中堅分子
: : 現在肯定臉整個黑掉了
: : 調薪完後,甚至還不如前年表現沒你好的,留在 31 拿 S+ 的同梯
: : 這些人可不是老屁股喔,都是年資不到 10 年的重要戰力
: : 年紀也才 28~32 左右而已,大部分都還沒生小孩,要跳槽可是很容易的
: : 而且不要忘記
: : 這群人腦裡正好有一堆 new tech 發展過程中的 issue 的 lesson learnt
: : 不論是跳其他晶圓廠,還是跳 vendor ,他們都很歡迎的...
: : 大家都知道,台積是個有點吃大鍋飯風氣的公司
: : 同年資同考績,在第一線戰鬥單位跟爽單位,領的錢基本上差不多的
: : 去年移薪 20% 之後,本來不同考績階級之間的薪水差距就變小了
: : 現在調完薪,有即戰力的薪水還不如新人
: : 菜 32 還不如老 31
: : 前幾年拚 O 的,不如今年一次 S+
: : 你猜猜以後大家還想不想拼命拿好考績?
: : 現在這樣搞,讓有戰力的人都不爽了,以後看台積要怎麼拚
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